5Ziegn Fireball Apex-i n1 dual Greddy MX HKS Hiper

[stil bil]

well i have searched and cannot find exactly what i am looking for,

as many of  you know i am trying to be unique and build a na monster(as much of a monster that can be built)

now i was wondering what you guys would suggest...sound doesnt really matter too muchjust want something that doesnt sound like a freakin FART CAN!!, neither does price, i just want to get most performance for what i get...

i finally found a place to buy the fireball and the others will be bought from enjuku...

[SimpleS14]

N1 Dual......

but then again I also like the Greddy MX &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':huh:'>

[stil bil]

ok, so dual and mx, what are the pros and cons of each when compared to each other?

just noticed i surpased 200 posts yay for me!! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

[i hate rice rockets]

i personally like the n1..not dual just the regular n1...its nice and deep...so i suggest on getting that <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

[BEISSEN]

I personaly think the n1 Duel will give the best power.It keeps low end and build mid to high end hp.It also sounds great as well real nice tone and sound get loud when you get on it but that it.Nothing like a honda exhaust.

[240silvia]

N1 Dual. &nbsp;My friend Desmond has a 2000 Honda S2K. &nbsp;He has dual N1's on it. &nbsp;Sounds just like a street bike. &nbsp;You will like it, trust me.

[Kreator]

cmon guys. We are talking about .5 hp difference. I say go for what u think looks or sounds best (i'm not gonna recommend anything cuz i don't like the way any of those look)

[SimpleS14]

actually I like the N1 Dual better...

good for mid to high end power
sounds friggin awesome
Two....yes two 90mm phatty SS tips that are just perfect for that phat ass...your car is a S-14...right? &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>
Can handle more exhaust flow and good for N/A applications....

and turbo applications.....just incase you want to join the turbo crowd &nbsp;<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sly.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':sly:'>

I probably just like it more, because I want it. &nbsp; <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':huh:'>

I think Greddy should have made an EVO exhaust for our cars.

[guidot]

I have heard and felt all power increases in those exhausts (except MX) and I will have to say, overall the 5Zigen is the best sounding and very good in overall performance. &nbsp;There is no loss on low end, and high end just wants to keep revving! &nbsp;That 5500rpm "dead" feeling is gone! &nbsp;

Fireball is my pick.

[Cheng]

you should look up on the Bee R ones they sound deep on the KA

[SimpleS14]

Did any of your guys read that article in Import Tuner...Power Pages (OCT. 2003)??

They reported 8hp gain with the Fireball...i just wanted to put that in...

but my pick is still N1 Dual <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>



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[Dousan_PG]

GREDDY DD!!
that exhaust looks AMAZING on S14s!! UGH..beautiful

[Loren]

yeah Im actually going to agree with Kreator for once.. this is a worthless thread in my eyes, mainly because stil bil posts about every little mod hes going to do to his car, like he got an intake, ooh big deal, post all about it..

[NiteKids]

if you want dead silent exhaust and 8 hp gain.........5z fireball. &nbsp;I have that and it's for sale

[Chicken Magnet]

<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'> If you want the ultimate setup and cheaper than all the exhausts you have mentioned, try this:

Find the largest coffee can and just get it welded on to your current piping. &nbsp;Just make sure you get it angled a bit to get that "N1" look. &nbsp;If you want duals, just get 2 medium sized coffee cans, weld them together and then weld it on to your current piping. &nbsp;

Dyno HP: &nbsp;0
Butt Dyno HP: &nbsp;15

I personally have an S14a and have the single N1. &nbsp;I'm NA and I wished I could have gotten the Dual N1s. &nbsp;Hope this helps <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

[i hate rice rockets]

i guess no one likes the n1.... <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'> &nbsp;but hey i like it...shit so thats all that counts! <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/satisfied.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':satisfied:'>

[stil bil]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Loren @ Sep. 30 2002,12:25)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">mainly because stil bil posts about every little mod hes going to do to his car, like he got an intake, ooh big deal, post all about it..</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
big deal man, if i am not mistaken is the forum here for us to talk about what we are going to do to our cars...

you on the other hand all you do is insult people and never post about any car....much less a 240...

now im not gonna say anything else..

[stil bil]

by the way guys thanks for the replys...

i think i will get either the duals or the fireball...

[Rownan]

I have the GReddy MX on my S14... &nbsp;I like it, with the rear muffler and tip polished it is blinding from behind people give me props on it all the time cause it is really eye catching. &nbsp;It sounds sweet nice growl in the high end, low rumble at idle.

Can't really comment on it in comparison to other aftermarket exhaust systems but it does give a good midrange boost to horsepower. &nbsp;With the hotshot headers and 11:1 compression I am very happy.

[Tyler Durdan]

F*ck the apexi n1, n1 duels, 5zigen fireball, greddy mx, and the hks hyper series (no offence to anyone). Get the HKS Super Dragger jdm exhaust. Comes with 65mm piping, install is a snap, and is extremely smooth. Plus, the gains are phenomenal for an exhaust system imho. Deep, and quiet...until you let it rip into the second cam with throttle fully suppressed. You can't even hear it when you are cruising hardly, and it's extremely deep on downshifts. PM, I got a great deal on mine, and could probably get you the same.

Also, it WILL transfer over if you do the sr swap....it's actually built for the sr, but the guy I got it from accidentally recieved some of the jdm ones.

[drift into a curb]

ooo JDM whoa! WHOA! JDM &nbsp;

The HKS Super JDM Dragger has 65mm piping and you said that would be okay on an sr20det if you decide to &nbsp;to go to swap your motor? &nbsp;That's more for a strict NA application. 80-90mm (3") piping &nbsp;is what you'd want for a turbo car..

[Stee Flo]

I like the hks hiper. &nbsp;It has 65mm piping for na applications.

[SR20Fastback]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Tyler Durdan @ Sep. 30 2002,5:05)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">F*ck the apexi n1, n1 duels, 5zigen fireball, greddy mx, and the hks hyper series (no offence to anyone). Get the HKS Super Dragger jdm exhaust. Comes with 65mm piping, install is a snap, and is extremely smooth. Plus, the gains are phenomenal for an exhaust system imho. Deep, and quiet...until you let it rip into the second cam with throttle fully suppressed. You can't even hear it when you are cruising hardly, and it's extremely deep on downshifts. PM, I got a great deal on mine, and could probably get you the same.

Also, it WILL transfer over if you do the sr swap....it's actually built for the sr, but the guy I got it from accidentally recieved some of the jdm ones.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Ahh yes the super dragger is very nice. If I had an S14 I would probably already have one. The canister on the muffler is HUGE, I have no idea how you wouldnt scrape it all the time?

[stil bil]

well i have just about decided to &nbsp;go with the ApexiN1 Duals

sorry Tyler but unless you can get the Dragger system any cheaper than 600 (Enjuku) than duals here i come!!

[CoasTek240]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (guidot @ Sep. 29 2002,12:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I have heard and felt all power increases in those exhausts (except MX) and I will have to say, overall the 5Zigen is the best sounding and very good in overall performance. There is no loss on low end, and high end just wants to keep revving! That 5500rpm "dead" feeling is gone!

Fireball is my pick.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
personally..i'd say the fireball is the best for n/a tuning..i agree.. but if u think u may go turbo later. go with the n-1 dual

[BEISSEN]

The Apex-i N1 Duel has a better transfer rateing then most exhaut.It helps with the N/A KA24DE and when you do a sr swap it is ideal as well.It has 80mm pipeing to 120mm canisters then to 90mm tips.It has a nice note tone and only really get wild when you get on it as well.
&nbsp; If you don't like the loudness you can get the super silencers and boy do they lower your tone.I know i have the n1 duel and the silencers"which are not used at all much".When i get to about 40+mph it just wants to keep pulling i hit 50mph without realizing it most the time.It is so smooth in the power band and with the CAI it is awsome.i can't hear my intake at all with the exhaust but who cares.
&nbsp; Also who give a hoot about the term JDM?If i bought everything just cus of JDM i would not have any money.Plus 65mm pipeing is awful for turbo thats like 2.5 inch pipeing you need a minimum of 2.75+ which i have almost 5.25 due to pipes.Thats all imo thought so no bashing.

[bing]

well i have the n1 dual.

if you ahd the opportunity to test all the exhausts you'll prolly find the only differences are the sound and appearance. the hp gains should be relatively uniform for all.

the reason i got the N1 dual, is because you see all these N1 lookalikes on civics, cav's, sunfires, and suzuki swifts!!!!

the Dual pipes really differentiates, and gets a few looks. even if they are bad ones.

[Black 97SE]

hey Stil, you ever think about getting the Blitz Nur Spec R???
probably has the deepest sound out of all those exhausts. &nbsp;And it's a full SS cat-back exhaust too =). &nbsp;Not like anybody's ever going to look under your car, but I mean it helps to know that it'll look shinny hehe.
I personally will go the Nur Spec or the N1 dual.

[nas240man]

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I think Greddy should have made an EVO exhaust for our cars.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>

Jspec.com carries the greddy EVO for our cars. s13 and s14, they look sweet as hell, but prolly cost a left gonad <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'>

[drift into a curb]

I'd say the Apex GT spec is deeper than the Blitz nur spec R if deep is what you are going for..

Oh yeah, my friend had the Greddy EVO on his prelude, that thing sounds kinda ricey if you ask me, but it may be different on our car. &nbsp;Anyone else heard the evo?