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Potatoskins02 · 10-24-2002, 06:42 AM

reaction time doesn't matter in a 1/4 mile. you can sit at the staging area for 5 secs for all i care and it wouldn't affect your quarter mile. what is important is his 60' time which isn't bad but isn't that spectacular when you see cars getting 2.1's or less.

MorganS13 · 10-24-2002, 07:04 AM

thats amazing, but u should be getting a lot better 60' than a 2.3.  especially with an LSD and 225 tires...  i was getting 2.3s on my 205s with an open differential with decent wheelspin  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/eh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':eh:'>  nice slips though

Evil S14 · 10-24-2002, 07:50 AM

.600 isnt impossible, not that it matters, ive hit .525 and similar on a few occasions. and my 60' was 2.1 with stock 195 tires

KoukiS14 · 10-24-2002, 09:26 AM

I KNOW for a fact 15.4 is obtainable, I stood there (and got VIDEO footage I have yet to digitize) of Evil S14s run... No LSD, dual N1. . etc...  Fairly stock really, so maybe the 14.xx is obtainable.. =)  Maybe our cars don't suck that much haha

-Rob

**Phlip** · 10-24-2002, 09:43 AM

Someone just pegged my bullshit meter... Was this in an eighth mile track or the quarter? I know people with modded SRs running 14s with piss poor traction.

Potatoskins02 · 10-24-2002, 10:01 AM

i'm not saying 15.4 is impossible. if you look at my post before i said that I could believe 15.5...... but a 14.68 is about a second faster if you are doing a 15.4. Think about it, a whole second if well over just a car length ahead. Again if he did get "more power to him" but i am like someone without a religion.... I won't believe it until i actually see it... ok bad analogy

turbo240sx · 10-24-2002, 11:35 AM

i finished the quarter in the top of 3rd gear, at like
6800 rpm, you said you finished in 4th?
do you have differant gear ratios? 4:36 or maybe 4:60?

Potatoskins02 · 10-24-2002, 12:14 PM

finishing the 1/4 mile at the end of third gear is just about right. If his gearing was different the car probably wouldn't have the same KA transmission unless there is a difference in gearing from s13 to s14. If he had longer gearing though i would think he would be finishing the 1/4 mile in third. That is however something to wonder.

BEISSEN · 10-24-2002, 12:30 PM

I know that if you have got a 14.68 on a stock 240 well "i should get in the high 13's or even real high 12's witha real good launch" ahahahaha untill i see a slip YOU FULL OF SHIT.Until then your a lier imo.

turbo240sx · 10-24-2002, 02:40 PM

the trannie ratios are the same i was thinking rear end gearing

Potatoskins02 · 10-24-2002, 02:56 PM

oh ok sorry for the misunderstandment........ then my answer would have to be 'I have no idea'

xS1LV1Ax · 10-24-2002, 03:13 PM

Man....14.68 Bone Stock.  Hard to believe.  I want to see that.   You should show everyone that u are not messin around and join us tomorrow (10/25) at a little Track meet that we are trying to organize in MD.  There should be a couple of 240's running.  If you're in DE it can't be too far.  It's right off of Route 50 in Crofton,MD.  Well just check out the thread in the meets section "Short Notice Meet".

Evil S14 · 10-24-2002, 03:36 PM

kouki i thought it was a 15.3?  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'>  anyways i cross the finish in the beginning of fourth every time, are u guys just redlining the shit outta ur cars or do you have really tall gears?

whateverjames · 10-24-2002, 05:17 PM

he was powershifting it sounds like  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sigh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'>

sporty240sx · 10-24-2002, 08:36 PM

Dude where in DE do you live? I live in Newark. I wanna check out your ride. I'm kinda wondering how the hell you got into the 14s with a stock 240.

chinderer · 10-24-2002, 09:49 PM

I beginning to think that it maybe was just a mistake, but i still have run MANY consistant 15.0-15.1 times, as illustrated in one of my old timeslips posted earlier from July. The gearing issue, what are you guys speeds @6500 in third. Mine is like 83 or 84, no way i can rev it through the quarter.  Also, i haven't changed my timing chain yet, and i don't have LSD, for you guys that didn't read the whole thread.

chinderer · 10-24-2002, 09:50 PM

Oh, i live in Wyoming, DE. If you want to meet in Dover (my cruising area) then e-mail me @ [email protected] or notify me on here.  There is definately a lack of 240's in Dover (only about 2 regulars) so a new race (maybe an SR20) would be great.

*DSC* · 10-24-2002, 10:11 PM

"i did disconnect the piping going to the airbox for the 14.68"

LOL <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':laugh:'>
<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/withstupid.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':withstupid:'>

Sorry, I'm glad you got a great time and all, but I wouldn't do that on any car I liked.

chinderer · 10-24-2002, 10:19 PM

To the airbox (The pipes that go to the resonator box) not after, it was still being filtered.  Adds a nice growl, even though i don't really feel a difference in power.

*DSC* · 10-24-2002, 10:59 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (chinderer @ Oct. 24 2002,01:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">To the airbox (The pipes that go to the resonator box) not after, it was still being filtered. Adds a nice growl, even though i don't really feel a difference in power.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
OHHHH OK, hehe <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

b4

after

I ripped everything outside the filter off...

Potatoskins02 · 10-25-2002, 12:26 AM

i forgot s14's had airboxes like that....

Tyler Durdan · 10-25-2002, 12:42 AM

A little skeptical, but time slips take some skeptism away.  Get a video next time you run...then no-one could deny the time.

LoCo · 10-25-2002, 01:00 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (chinderer @ Oct. 24 2002,12:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">It always turns out this way after racing and the questions like 'where's the nitrous?' come up, especially after racing 240's (i smoke every one of them).</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
You haven't raced ALL of them.  I bet there are a few of them on this list that would smoke yours.

camppain · 10-25-2002, 07:27 AM

unless you rn that consistent i feel you are full of shit.

yes SHIT!

evils14 so that was you that ran that time. i remember that post, but im still suspect i would like to see a vid. also what do you runconsistently

<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/music.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':music:'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/music.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':music:'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh2.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':huh2:'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/music.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':music:'>

uiuc240 · 10-25-2002, 10:07 AM

With that trap speed, and assuming that his car weighs 2750 lbs, he would have to be making ~180 hp to do that.  180!!  Stock is rated at 155?!  I know there are tolerances, but not an additional 25 hp.  Maybe an additional 2.5, but not 25.

I call BS too.

Eric

gabossie · 10-25-2002, 10:20 AM

It's kind of sad how many people posted here just to call BS. Oh well, if you really run that, find out what the previous owner did, because I don't see that as possible stock. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/baaa.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':baaa:'>

S13Grl · 10-25-2002, 12:46 PM

I'm with these guys: you're full of shit unless you provide pics of EVERYTHING, underneath the hood before anything else, and then a video clip of your car launching and crossing the line, the drag # visible, and then after that, a picture of the same time slip. Otherwise, I'm sorry, but it just doesn't seem true at all. These cars run 16.4 from the factory. You can't just shave off two seconds like that. Do you have any idea what two seconds is for a 3,000LB car??? That's about what, 75, 50 horses? Just about.

S13Grl · 10-25-2002, 12:49 PM

Wait, I gotta post this:

"One of our Admins: (1:57:34 PM): he was fred flinstoning it with his feet" - on the topic of a bone-stock 240 running 14s.

chinderer · 10-25-2002, 12:53 PM

LoCo, All the one's i have raced, thats only like 3 maybe four different ones; Dover sucks.

SimpleS14 · 10-25-2002, 12:59 PM

I dunno man, I not calling BS, but something doesn't seem right about that.  The previous owner must have done something to the car, such as engine work or weight reduction.

Good run BTW....sometimes I wish I had a 5 speed, more or less my car.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/unhappy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':unhappy:'>

10-24-2002, 06:42 AM	#31
Potatoskins02 Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Northern VA Age: 41 Posts: 247 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	reaction time doesn't matter in a 1/4 mile. you can sit at the staging area for 5 secs for all i care and it wouldn't affect your quarter mile. what is important is his 60' time which isn't bad but isn't that spectacular when you see cars getting 2.1's or less. __________________ ~1993 240sx CAI, FSTB, RSTB, Zigen Fireball friend MSP owner... "I need to save my gas...... shit its beginning to boost!" shifts

10-24-2002, 07:50 AM	#33
Evil S14 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Indianapolis/Bloomington Age: 41 Posts: 610 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	.600 isnt impossible, not that it matters, ive hit .525 and similar on a few occasions. and my 60' was 2.1 with stock 195 tires __________________ image exceeds forum limit -Moderation

10-24-2002, 09:26 AM	#34
KoukiS14 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Indiana Age: 47 Posts: 944 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I KNOW for a fact 15.4 is obtainable, I stood there (and got VIDEO footage I have yet to digitize) of Evil S14s run... No LSD, dual N1. . etc...  Fairly stock really, so maybe the 14.xx is obtainable.. =)  Maybe our cars don't suck that much haha -Rob __________________

10-24-2002, 09:43 AM	#35
Phlip Yes, I look like that Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In my supervillain's lair Posts: 27,980 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: Phlip Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Someone just pegged my bullshit meter... Was this in an eighth mile track or the quarter? I know people with modded SRs running 14s with piss poor traction. __________________ Weirdo And I write too!

10-24-2002, 10:01 AM	#36
Potatoskins02 Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Northern VA Age: 41 Posts: 247 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i'm not saying 15.4 is impossible. if you look at my post before i said that I could believe 15.5...... but a 14.68 is about a second faster if you are doing a 15.4. Think about it, a whole second if well over just a car length ahead. Again if he did get "more power to him" but i am like someone without a religion.... I won't believe it until i actually see it... ok bad analogy __________________ ~1993 240sx CAI, FSTB, RSTB, Zigen Fireball friend MSP owner... "I need to save my gas...... shit its beginning to boost!" shifts

10-24-2002, 07:04 AM	#32
MorganS13 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Midwest Posts: 707 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	thats amazing, but u should be getting a lot better 60' than a 2.3.  especially with an LSD and 225 tires...  i was getting 2.3s on my 205s with an open differential with decent wheelspin  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/eh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':eh:'>  nice slips though

10-24-2002, 11:35 AM	#37
turbo240sx Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: CT Posts: 166 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i finished the quarter in the top of 3rd gear, at like 6800 rpm, you said you finished in 4th? do you have differant gear ratios? 4:36 or maybe 4:60? __________________ 240sx s-13 TURBO weekend v-8 killer 90 Talon TSI WARNING.THIS CAR IS EQUIPPED WITH A TURBOCHARGER. DUE TO POSSIBLE BREATHING PROBLEMS UNDER HEAVY ACCELERATION, ALL FEMALES ARE ADVISED TO REMOVE ANY TIGHT FITTING OR RESTRICTIVE CLOTHING FOR SAFETY.

10-24-2002, 12:14 PM	#38
Potatoskins02 Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Northern VA Age: 41 Posts: 247 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	finishing the 1/4 mile at the end of third gear is just about right. If his gearing was different the car probably wouldn't have the same KA transmission unless there is a difference in gearing from s13 to s14. If he had longer gearing though i would think he would be finishing the 1/4 mile in third. That is however something to wonder. __________________ ~1993 240sx CAI, FSTB, RSTB, Zigen Fireball friend MSP owner... "I need to save my gas...... shit its beginning to boost!" shifts

10-24-2002, 12:30 PM	#39
BEISSEN Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Woodbridge,VA Age: 42 Posts: 1,028 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I know that if you have got a 14.68 on a stock 240 well "i should get in the high 13's or even real high 12's witha real good launch" ahahahaha untill i see a slip YOU FULL OF SHIT.Until then your a lier imo.

10-24-2002, 02:40 PM	#40
turbo240sx Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: CT Posts: 166 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	the trannie ratios are the same i was thinking rear end gearing __________________ 240sx s-13 TURBO weekend v-8 killer 90 Talon TSI WARNING.THIS CAR IS EQUIPPED WITH A TURBOCHARGER. DUE TO POSSIBLE BREATHING PROBLEMS UNDER HEAVY ACCELERATION, ALL FEMALES ARE ADVISED TO REMOVE ANY TIGHT FITTING OR RESTRICTIVE CLOTHING FOR SAFETY.

10-24-2002, 02:56 PM	#41
Potatoskins02 Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Northern VA Age: 41 Posts: 247 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	oh ok sorry for the misunderstandment........ then my answer would have to be 'I have no idea' __________________ ~1993 240sx CAI, FSTB, RSTB, Zigen Fireball friend MSP owner... "I need to save my gas...... shit its beginning to boost!" shifts

10-24-2002, 03:13 PM	#42
xS1LV1Ax Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Some people call it a box. I call it home :) Age: 40 Posts: 641 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Man....14.68 Bone Stock.  Hard to believe.  I want to see that.   You should show everyone that u are not messin around and join us tomorrow (10/25) at a little Track meet that we are trying to organize in MD.  There should be a couple of 240's running.  If you're in DE it can't be too far.  It's right off of Route 50 in Crofton,MD.  Well just check out the thread in the meets section "Short Notice Meet". __________________ PJ

10-24-2002, 03:36 PM	#43
Evil S14 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Indianapolis/Bloomington Age: 41 Posts: 610 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	kouki i thought it was a 15.3?  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>  anyways i cross the finish in the beginning of fourth every time, are u guys just redlining the shit outta ur cars or do you have really tall gears? __________________ image exceeds forum limit -Moderation

10-24-2002, 05:17 PM	#44
whateverjames Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: St. Louis Age: 45 Posts: 2,263 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	he was powershifting it sounds like  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sigh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> __________________ 02 Blazer X - 90 240SX w/SR oh noes

10-24-2002, 08:36 PM	#45
sporty240sx Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 10 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Dude where in DE do you live? I live in Newark. I wanna check out your ride. I'm kinda wondering how the hell you got into the 14s with a stock 240.

10-24-2002, 09:49 PM	#46
chinderer Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 52 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I beginning to think that it maybe was just a mistake, but i still have run MANY consistant 15.0-15.1 times, as illustrated in one of my old timeslips posted earlier from July. The gearing issue, what are you guys speeds @6500 in third. Mine is like 83 or 84, no way i can rev it through the quarter.  Also, i haven't changed my timing chain yet, and i don't have LSD, for you guys that didn't read the whole thread.

10-24-2002, 09:50 PM	#47
chinderer Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 52 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Oh, i live in Wyoming, DE. If you want to meet in Dover (my cruising area) then e-mail me @ [email protected] or notify me on here.  There is definately a lack of 240's in Dover (only about 2 regulars) so a new race (maybe an SR20) would be great.

10-24-2002, 10:11 PM	#48
DSC New Title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: VA Posts: 3,454 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	"i did disconnect the piping going to the airbox for the 14.68" LOL <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/laugh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':laugh:'> <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/withstupid.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':withstupid:'> Sorry, I'm glad you got a great time and all, but I wouldn't do that on any car I liked. __________________

10-24-2002, 10:19 PM	#49
chinderer Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 52 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	To the airbox (The pipes that go to the resonator box) not after, it was still being filtered.  Adds a nice growl, even though i don't really feel a difference in power.

10-24-2002, 10:59 PM	#50
DSC New Title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: VA Posts: 3,454 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (chinderer @ Oct. 24 2002,01:19)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">To the airbox (The pipes that go to the resonator box) not after, it was still being filtered. Adds a nice growl, even though i don't really feel a difference in power.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> OHHHH OK, hehe <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'> b4 after I ripped everything outside the filter off... __________________

10-25-2002, 12:26 AM	#51
Potatoskins02 Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Northern VA Age: 41 Posts: 247 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i forgot s14's had airboxes like that.... __________________ ~1993 240sx CAI, FSTB, RSTB, Zigen Fireball friend MSP owner... "I need to save my gas...... shit its beginning to boost!" shifts

10-25-2002, 12:42 AM	#52
Tyler Durdan Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Don't mess with Texas Posts: 546 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	A little skeptical, but time slips take some skeptism away.  Get a video next time you run...then no-one could deny the time. __________________ "Pure adrenaline attached to a license plate.  Isn't it time to experience one yourself?"                           -Dan Gurney Turbo for Sale

10-25-2002, 01:00 AM	#53
LoCo Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhode Island Age: 46 Posts: 81 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (chinderer @ Oct. 24 2002,12:33)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">It always turns out this way after racing and the questions like 'where's the nitrous?' come up, especially after racing 240's (i smoke every one of them).</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> You haven't raced ALL of them.  I bet there are a few of them on this list that would smoke yours. __________________ Lenny 1993 S13 ACT Street Clutch, Lightened Flywheel, OBX Short-throw Shifter, Magnecor 8.5" Competion Spark Plug Wires, Front Strut-Tower bar waiting to do my rear lol, AEM Ram Air Intake, APEXi N1 Catback w/ Silencer (finally... sick of getting pulled over) What next? ...Brakes, suspension, or something else? UPDATE: going to re-build front end (bumper, fenders, hood, headlights) due to accident!!

10-25-2002, 07:27 AM	#54
camppain Will never get banned... Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Diego CA Age: 45 Posts: 1,510 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	unless you rn that consistent i feel you are full of shit. yes SHIT! evils14 so that was you that ran that time. i remember that post, but im still suspect i would like to see a vid. also what do you runconsistently <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/music.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':music:'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/dozingoff.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/music.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':music:'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh2.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':huh2:'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/confused.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='???'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/music.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':music:'> __________________ -=-99 Sentra SE 5 speed-=- -=-95 240 SE 5 speed-=-

10-25-2002, 10:07 AM	#55
uiuc240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Naperville, IL Age: 46 Posts: 2,093 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	With that trap speed, and assuming that his car weighs 2750 lbs, he would have to be making ~180 hp to do that.  180!!  Stock is rated at 155?!  I know there are tolerances, but not an additional 25 hp.  Maybe an additional 2.5, but not 25. I call BS too. Eric __________________ 2002 Mazda Protege5 1989 S13 w/SR20DET (sold)

10-25-2002, 12:46 PM	#57
S13Grl Married to the Mob Join Date: Dec 2000 Age: 44 Posts: 3,670 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'm with these guys: you're full of shit unless you provide pics of EVERYTHING, underneath the hood before anything else, and then a video clip of your car launching and crossing the line, the drag # visible, and then after that, a picture of the same time slip. Otherwise, I'm sorry, but it just doesn't seem true at all. These cars run 16.4 from the factory. You can't just shave off two seconds like that. Do you have any idea what two seconds is for a 3,000LB car??? That's about what, 75, 50 horses? Just about.

10-25-2002, 12:49 PM	#58
S13Grl Married to the Mob Join Date: Dec 2000 Age: 44 Posts: 3,670 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Wait, I gotta post this: "One of our Admins: (1:57:34 PM): he was fred flinstoning it with his feet" - on the topic of a bone-stock 240 running 14s.

10-25-2002, 12:53 PM	#59
chinderer Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 52 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	LoCo, All the one's i have raced, thats only like 3 maybe four different ones; Dover sucks.

10-25-2002, 12:59 PM	#60
SimpleS14 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Philly Age: 42 Posts: 9,185 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: SimpleS14 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I dunno man, I not calling BS, but something doesn't seem right about that.  The previous owner must have done something to the car, such as engine work or weight reduction. Good run BTW....sometimes I wish I had a 5 speed, more or less my car.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/unhappy.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':unhappy:'> __________________ *Goals are dreams with a deadline.* L.H.O.O.Q.