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Andrew Bohan · 11-06-2007, 09:27 PM

i have seen folks put it down with welded

things work right if you do it right.
that's true for most things in life.

!Zar! · 11-06-2007, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by xpl2007

Very Bias!
LSD Wich one 1.5 2 way all those for drag are good i would say 2 way is sick.. Becarefull.
VLSD good to start with to drift and safe.
Welded sucks ass i never seen anyone put it down. Pro or street! Good fore newbies that just want to spin out!!
Just what i have seen on the street and track!

You are full of fail.

!!chuy!! · 11-06-2007, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by LongGrain

ive done it, yea, its scary as shit. but my rear end didnt get too far out of line.

wy does that happen...thats my question?

titoray · 11-06-2007, 10:02 PM

Welded duz suck ass.. I dont care how good you are. Lets see any pro Japanese drivers have?? No!
Cusco lsd 2 way or 1.5 is sick... I have tride them all. Welded is like drifting in the rain on a good 2 way. Sucks! But out here in the states there are no mountains so straight or a j turn YEAH!!! Welded! G@Y! Try that shit in GMR and your dead!

titoray · 11-06-2007, 10:04 PM

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Last I remember, I hit 115 in a car with welded diff on bald rt-215's and I'm still alive.

Damn. Must be some magic.

Maybe I should try hitting 115 with a welded and federal's eh?

Anyways, WORST case if the car were to be unstable, you could clutch.

Er wait.

Maybe your car just needs alignment.

2way/spool is SO much better than an open or vlsd. For grip/drift/hardparking it rocks. Only people who can't drive on a competition style setup are those who lack driving skill.

The reason your rear becomes unstable is if you are putting in the wrong inputs. So to me, it isn't about adaptation, but about learning proper driving etiquette. Sounds more like a personal problem than a car problem

Next time go 115 in a welded and let of the gas hard and turn!

titoray · 11-06-2007, 10:06 PM

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Definitely agree with the 1 way if you're sticking with drag, as you said previously. Could be wrong but who needs a diff to be locked on deceleration in a drag race? A 2 way, in road racing, creates very noticeable understeer on deceleration coming into a corner. Toss in some hard braking and the rear starts to get light and unsettled causing the rear end to step out in our experience. We switched to a 1.5 way and it alleviated a lot of the initial understeer on deceleration just by swapping alone.

YES i totaly agree!!

!Zar! · 11-06-2007, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by titoray

Welded duz suck ass.. I dont care how good you are. Lets see any pro Japanese drivers have?? No!
Cusco lsd 2 way or 1.5 is sick... I have tride them all. Welded is like drifting in the rain on a good 2 way. Sucks! But out here in the states there are no mountains so straight or a j turn YEAH!!! Welded! G@Y! Try that shit in GMR and your dead!

You have NO idea what the fuck you are talking about.

Welded acts the same way as a 2way.

You spin out because obviously you lack car control/skill.

Stop spreading misinformation. Matter of fact. You just said there aren't any mountains in the united states. LOL. Woah dude. Lay off the weed.

This thread sure shows who does/doesn't know how to drive a car. The rear will only become unstable if you brake WAY too hard; to the point of locking up. Which shouldn't be done in the first place. Or if you give too much gas in a corner. You brake in straights, if you must, lightly in a corner.

Stay on the gas and the car will rotate.

UGH

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Originally Posted by titoray

Next time go 115 in a welded and let of the gas hard and turn!

So In other words, drive like a fucking moron.

nousablenames133 · 11-06-2007, 10:19 PM

If your car is a daily driver and you don't care about cornering grip, get a VLSD. If you're drag racing there's no lateral load transfer to really need a strong LSD or locker. I've seen videos of an Ivan from the Midwest with a 9 second S14.5 that runs a VLSD fine.

Also, I've driven a 10 second Chevy Nova with a spooled differential. Once you go 1/4 mile you get off the floor and get on the brakes hard. I'm still here. You're strongly over reacting or your car is tuned for too much oversteer.

Illestdrift · 11-06-2007, 10:23 PM

Welded sucks ass i never seen anyone put it down. Pro or street! Good fore newbies that just want to spin out!!

... you must only see weak ass drivers then!

!Zar! · 11-06-2007, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by nousablenames133

If your car is a daily driver and you don't care about cornering grip, get a VLSD. If you're drag racing there's no lateral load transfer to really need a strong LSD or locker. I've seen videos of an Ivan from the Midwest with a 9 second S14.5 that runs a VLSD fine.

Also, I've driven a 10 second Chevy Nova with a spooled differential. Once you go 1/4 mile you get off the floor and get on the brakes hard. I'm still here. You're strongly over reacting or your car is tuned for too much oversteer.

FINALLY. Someone with some damn sense.

chituntang · 11-06-2007, 10:36 PM

Poor man vlsd
People with extra money lsd

Andrew Bohan · 11-06-2007, 10:43 PM

hey if you drive at 200mph and pull the ebrake and turn the wheel you will flip and die

that's why ebrakes and steering wheels are for idiots.

stupids

MyLevinGTZ · 11-06-2007, 11:05 PM

LOL at this thread welded bashing.

daily driven 388whp SR welded. i'm not dead, nor have i had any close calls.

this thread is full of fail.

welded is a good cheap, reliable option if done right. weld the gears together, then the gears to the frame. on both sides. that's 16 welds, with a high amperage welder. it won't break.

only issue slowing quickly from high speed....maybe if you have one cut stock spring, 3 normal, and four different sized tires on a curb checked alignment.

2-way>welded for daily, but also VLSD>2-way daily too. pick your poison. FWIW, open>anything for daily.....wtf.

xpl2007 · 11-07-2007, 01:16 AM

So who puts it down with a welded diff? WHO? .... Dont worry ill wait!........

Koopa Troopa · 11-07-2007, 01:32 AM

I'd just buy a clutch type 1 way LSD if I was only using the car for drag racing. It won't hop or skit around corners...

VSLD sucks because the way it works is once the silicon in it heats up it locks... The only thing with that is the silicon stops locking after it gets too hot and eventually the silicon will weaken and stop working...

xpl2007 · 11-07-2007, 08:56 PM

I will try one and see.. Luke makes got stuff from what i hear. I will see!

whereda40at · 11-10-2007, 02:51 PM

will a kaaz or nismo lsd work with the stock pumpkin or no??? and can you use the stock drive shaft or will it not work

11-07-2007, 01:16 AM	#44
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11-07-2007, 01:32 AM	#45
Koopa Troopa Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: 北谷著, 沖縄県、日本 Posts: 2,565 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	I'd just buy a clutch type 1 way LSD if I was only using the car for drag racing. It won't hop or skit around corners... VSLD sucks because the way it works is once the silicon in it heats up it locks... The only thing with that is the silicon stops locking after it gets too hot and eventually the silicon will weaken and stop working... __________________ Buy my Stillway shifter!

11-07-2007, 08:56 PM	#46
xpl2007 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Newport Beach Posts: 1,490 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	I will try one and see.. Luke makes got stuff from what i hear. I will see! __________________ http://zilvia.net/f/traderratings.html?u=57636 If i sold you something or gave you it for free post here! Thanks!

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11-06-2007, 09:27 PM	#31
Andrew Bohan Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,331 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	i have seen folks put it down with welded things work right if you do it right. that's true for most things in life.

11-06-2007, 10:02 PM	#34
titoray Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Fullerton Age: 44 Posts: 19 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Welded duz suck ass.. I dont care how good you are. Lets see any pro Japanese drivers have?? No! Cusco lsd 2 way or 1.5 is sick... I have tride them all. Welded is like drifting in the rain on a good 2 way. Sucks! But out here in the states there are no mountains so straight or a j turn YEAH!!! Welded! G@Y! Try that shit in GMR and your dead!

11-06-2007, 10:19 PM	#38
nousablenames133 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Corvallis, Oregon Posts: 30 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	If your car is a daily driver and you don't care about cornering grip, get a VLSD. If you're drag racing there's no lateral load transfer to really need a strong LSD or locker. I've seen videos of an Ivan from the Midwest with a 9 second S14.5 that runs a VLSD fine. Also, I've driven a 10 second Chevy Nova with a spooled differential. Once you go 1/4 mile you get off the floor and get on the brakes hard. I'm still here. You're strongly over reacting or your car is tuned for too much oversteer.

11-06-2007, 10:23 PM	#39
Illestdrift Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Vancouver, Wa Posts: 27 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Welded sucks ass i never seen anyone put it down. Pro or street! Good fore newbies that just want to spin out!! ... you must only see weak ass drivers then!

11-06-2007, 10:36 PM	#41
chituntang Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: ATL Age: 38 Posts: 505 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	Poor man vlsd People with extra money lsd

11-06-2007, 10:43 PM	#42
Andrew Bohan Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,331 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	hey if you drive at 200mph and pull the ebrake and turn the wheel you will flip and die that's why ebrakes and steering wheels are for idiots. stupids

11-06-2007, 11:05 PM	#43
MyLevinGTZ Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Martinsburg, WV Posts: 103 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	LOL at this thread welded bashing. daily driven 388whp SR welded. i'm not dead, nor have i had any close calls. this thread is full of fail. welded is a good cheap, reliable option if done right. weld the gears together, then the gears to the frame. on both sides. that's 16 welds, with a high amperage welder. it won't break. only issue slowing quickly from high speed....maybe if you have one cut stock spring, 3 normal, and four different sized tires on a curb checked alignment. 2-way>welded for daily, but also VLSD>2-way daily too. pick your poison. FWIW, open>anything for daily.....wtf.