Requesting S13 window switch wiring diagram - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

svensko · 03-15-2008, 09:02 AM

Okay, this is the deal. My GF bought me a S13 window switch as a gift a year or so ago. I have a S14 so of course it didn't fit. I've been too busy to sell this S13 switch and buy a S14 switch but I'm sick of not having windows that work and I don't care about ghettofying my car so I want to put the S13 switch in my S14. I have the wiring diagrams for the S14, but I need to know which pins on the S13 do what

Looking at it straight on it, the female portion with the pins looks like...

Code:

| -  - | - - - |
|    - | -     |

The - signifies a pin and a space means there's no pin in that position.

I'm going junkyard diving for one later today but if that falls through I want a backup plan.

Thanks for any help.

svensko · 03-20-2008, 02:50 PM

Bump, can anyone with a S13 with power windows please take their switch off of their door and show me where each colored pin goes? Pleaaaaaaaaase? The weather out is nice and I want my windows down.

GSXRJJordan · 03-20-2008, 03:29 PM

So you have a window timer, but just the wrong switch?

I don't know if telling you the color of the wires will help...

projectRDM · 03-20-2008, 06:40 PM

The FSM will tell you diagrams for both. If you own a 240 you should already have one anyway.

svensko · 03-20-2008, 06:46 PM

I have the switch off of a S13...

I've looked over the wiring diagrams for the S13 and S14 and each color performs the same function... The only problem is they don't show WHERE on the S13 switch each wire goes. It basically looks like...

Code:

b  w/r  g      r    bl    w
|       |        |    |     |     |
______________
|                                                 |
|         Switch      |
|                                                 |

Not exactly that but something similar. I've found someone on eBay with the switch and wires for sale but I can't tell what goes where from the pics. I've e-mailed him and it looks like he might be able to tell me tonight.

projectRDM · 03-20-2008, 06:55 PM

At the bottom of each page is a pinout of the plugs in question. They're also labeled by number to correspond to that pinout.

svensko · 03-20-2008, 08:29 PM

Uhh, I can only find the pinouts for the S14 switch. Little help? I'm looking on BF-17 and see nothing that uses the 7 pins I noted in my first post.

The only way it would match is if I turned the D8 upside down. The pinout on the the S13 switch would then be...

Code:

47|563
-2|1--

Can anyone confirm?

svensko · 03-21-2008, 08:53 AM

Bump due to nice weather

svensko · 03-21-2008, 09:23 AM

I've got it down to two potential pinouts -

Code:

Black    Red/Black    |    White/Black    Red/White    Blue/Black
         Blue/White   |    White/Red

OR

Code:

Blue/Black    Red/White    |    White/Black    Red/Black    Black
              White/Red    |     Blue/White

Anyone?

svensko · 03-21-2008, 11:53 AM

Okay, I see what you guys were talking about. I didn't realize that S14s could come WITH power window but WITHOUT power locks. This means that the main "switch" on BF-17 is the wiring I need. Thanks for not making me figure this out on my own. Made me a little more knowledgeable.

projectRDM · 03-21-2008, 03:02 PM

Bingo. Now, don't you feel hardcore?

Seriously I would have helped more, but I don't have an S13 FSM handy, and my car is a 98, so the 95 switch pinout isn't in my FSM.

svensko · 03-21-2008, 03:10 PM

Okay, I hooked the switch up by soldering it and they still won't work. My amp looked okay when I checked it earlier so I think a fuse may be blown. I looked in the FSM and it shows a relay and a fuse between the window switch and battery. I found the relay in the footwell but I can't find where this fuse is. Any ideas? I checked EL-191.

Searched and found this:
http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothrea...postid=3477876

Which doesn't help.

Crap, my sunroof is now stuck OPEN! I leave for school in a few days, can anyone help?

Okay, found a P/WINDOW fusable link in the fuse box under the hood, i'm going to replace it and hope for the best.

svensko · 03-21-2008, 03:53 PM

I think I wired it incorrectly... My passenger side doesn't move, and whenever I try to do "down" with the driver's side it blows the P/WINDOW fuse. I heatshrinked all of the wires but I double checked them as I soldered them. Will this ever end?

89singlecamnoob · 03-21-2008, 03:59 PM

for you? no. for us? only if you stop posting.

svensko · 03-21-2008, 04:09 PM

I'll gladly stop posting if someone will show me where these wires go. From what I can tell the wiring that I've tried (from the S14 FSM) is NOT correct for my S13 switch. Surely someone here can help me out?

svensko · 03-21-2008, 04:19 PM

Can someone PLEASE confirm that this is what I'm looking for? I found this in the S13 wiring diagram that someone posted in a different thread.

svensko · 03-21-2008, 05:25 PM

I wired it up according to the diagram above and now when I try to move the passenger up and down it just clicks at the amplifier... Passenger shows no signs of moving either... any ideas?

03-15-2008, 09:02 AM	#1
svensko Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 444 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Requesting S13 window switch wiring diagram Okay, this is the deal. My GF bought me a S13 window switch as a gift a year or so ago. I have a S14 so of course it didn't fit. I've been too busy to sell this S13 switch and buy a S14 switch but I'm sick of not having windows that work and I don't care about ghettofying my car so I want to put the S13 switch in my S14. I have the wiring diagrams for the S14, but I need to know which pins on the S13 do what Looking at it straight on it, the female portion with the pins looks like... Code: \| - - \| - - - \| \| - \| - \| The - signifies a pin and a space means there's no pin in that position. I'm going junkyard diving for one later today but if that falls through I want a backup plan. Thanks for any help. __________________ Respect begets respect.

03-20-2008, 02:50 PM	#2
svensko Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 444 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Bump, can anyone with a S13 with power windows please take their switch off of their door and show me where each colored pin goes? Pleaaaaaaaaase? The weather out is nice and I want my windows down. __________________ Respect begets respect.

03-20-2008, 03:29 PM	#3
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03-20-2008, 06:40 PM	#4
projectRDM Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Age: 51 Posts: 13,812 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	The FSM will tell you diagrams for both. If you own a 240 you should already have one anyway. __________________ FORMERLY R240NA Learn what's really going on and protect your assets now before they're gone forever: www.paypalsucks.com

03-20-2008, 06:46 PM	#5
svensko Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 444 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I have the switch off of a S13... I've looked over the wiring diagrams for the S13 and S14 and each color performs the same function... The only problem is they don't show WHERE on the S13 switch each wire goes. It basically looks like... Code: b w/r g r bl w \| \| \| \| \| \| ______________ \| \| \| Switch \| \| \| Not exactly that but something similar. I've found someone on eBay with the switch and wires for sale but I can't tell what goes where from the pics. I've e-mailed him and it looks like he might be able to tell me tonight. __________________ Respect begets respect.

03-20-2008, 06:55 PM	#6
projectRDM Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Age: 51 Posts: 13,812 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	At the bottom of each page is a pinout of the plugs in question. They're also labeled by number to correspond to that pinout. __________________ FORMERLY R240NA Learn what's really going on and protect your assets now before they're gone forever: www.paypalsucks.com

03-20-2008, 08:29 PM	#7
svensko Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 444 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Uhh, I can only find the pinouts for the S14 switch. Little help? I'm looking on BF-17 and see nothing that uses the 7 pins I noted in my first post. The only way it would match is if I turned the D8 upside down. The pinout on the the S13 switch would then be... Code: 47\|563 -2\|1-- Can anyone confirm? __________________ Respect begets respect.

03-21-2008, 08:53 AM	#8
svensko Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 444 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Bump due to nice weather __________________ Respect begets respect.

03-21-2008, 09:23 AM	#9
svensko Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 444 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I've got it down to two potential pinouts - Code: Black Red/Black \| White/Black Red/White Blue/Black Blue/White \| White/Red OR Code: Blue/Black Red/White \| White/Black Red/Black Black White/Red \| Blue/White Anyone? __________________ Respect begets respect.

03-21-2008, 11:53 AM	#10
svensko Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 444 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Okay, I see what you guys were talking about. I didn't realize that S14s could come WITH power window but WITHOUT power locks. This means that the main "switch" on BF-17 is the wiring I need. Thanks for not making me figure this out on my own. Made me a little more knowledgeable. __________________ Respect begets respect.

03-21-2008, 03:02 PM	#11
projectRDM Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Age: 51 Posts: 13,812 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	Bingo. Now, don't you feel hardcore? Seriously I would have helped more, but I don't have an S13 FSM handy, and my car is a 98, so the 95 switch pinout isn't in my FSM. __________________ FORMERLY R240NA Learn what's really going on and protect your assets now before they're gone forever: www.paypalsucks.com

03-21-2008, 03:10 PM	#12
svensko Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 444 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Okay, I hooked the switch up by soldering it and they still won't work. My amp looked okay when I checked it earlier so I think a fuse may be blown. I looked in the FSM and it shows a relay and a fuse between the window switch and battery. I found the relay in the footwell but I can't find where this fuse is. Any ideas? I checked EL-191. Searched and found this: http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothrea...postid=3477876 Which doesn't help. Crap, my sunroof is now stuck OPEN! I leave for school in a few days, can anyone help? Okay, found a P/WINDOW fusable link in the fuse box under the hood, i'm going to replace it and hope for the best. __________________ Respect begets respect.

03-21-2008, 03:53 PM	#13
svensko Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 444 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I think I wired it incorrectly... My passenger side doesn't move, and whenever I try to do "down" with the driver's side it blows the P/WINDOW fuse. I heatshrinked all of the wires but I double checked them as I soldered them. Will this ever end? __________________ Respect begets respect.

03-21-2008, 03:59 PM	#14
89singlecamnoob Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Minot AFB, ND Age: 37 Posts: 248 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	for you? no. for us? only if you stop posting. __________________ "Alfa Romeo builds cars to be as good as a car can be...briefly." -Clarkson

03-21-2008, 04:09 PM	#15
svensko Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 444 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'll gladly stop posting if someone will show me where these wires go. From what I can tell the wiring that I've tried (from the S14 FSM) is NOT correct for my S13 switch. Surely someone here can help me out? __________________ Respect begets respect.

03-21-2008, 04:19 PM	#16
svensko Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 444 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Can someone PLEASE confirm that this is what I'm looking for? I found this in the S13 wiring diagram that someone posted in a different thread. __________________ Respect begets respect.

03-21-2008, 05:25 PM	#17
svensko Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 444 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I wired it up according to the diagram above and now when I try to move the passenger up and down it just clicks at the amplifier... Passenger shows no signs of moving either... any ideas? __________________ Respect begets respect.