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LOwrestling2001 · 02-09-2003, 12:53 AM

hi,
was wondering who likes their obx shifter, i know B&M is much better quality, but i wouldn't appreciate bothersome rattle in my car. so i was wondering what everyone thinks of their obx shifters, i just want a somewhat shorter shift and somewhat firmer than stock, doesn't have to be supershort or super solid.

Apparition · 02-09-2003, 09:59 AM

Use the search, its been covered countless times, and I do mean countless. B&M only rattles in the high rpm range, and its right at the end of the powerband.

gsu240 · 02-09-2003, 01:19 PM

i have the new obx shifter, i think its the worst mod i have added to my car. it rattles in high rpms and it is about the most annoying thing ever especially when you are driving on the interstate.
it was cool for a while because it was easier to catch 2nd and jsut different but i think overall it sucks!!

nrcooled · 02-09-2003, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gsu240
i have the new obx shifter, i think its the worst mod i have added to my car. it rattles in high rpms and it is about the most annoying thing ever especially when you are driving on the interstate.
it was cool for a while because it was easier to catch 2nd and jsut different but i think overall it sucks!!

I completely agree. I will be removing it soon because it sucks a$$. Worst mod ever. Spend the extra cash on the B&M....please!

kandyflip445 · 02-09-2003, 03:08 PM

Just get the Nismo one if you have the money. That sounds like what you want.

EDIT: Jspec has them for $190 right now.

Bbandit · 02-09-2003, 05:09 PM

will b&m fit in both KA and SR??
im thinking of getting one too.. but since i dont have plan wether i'll keep the KA or go SR.. i just want to make sure that the B&M short shifter will fit in both

JerkFaceJason · 02-09-2003, 05:13 PM

How hard is the B&M to install compared to the OBX? Doesn't it invlolve alot more work?

019 · 02-09-2003, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bbandit
will b&m fit in both KA and SR??
im thinking of getting one too.. but since i dont have plan wether i'll keep the KA or go SR.. i just want to make sure that the B&M short shifter will fit in both

i believe the B&M will fit both KA and SR. i'm not 100% sure, but i'm pretty sure it will.

LOwrestling2001 · 02-09-2003, 06:56 PM

but is the nismo a short shifter? i want the shift to actually be shorter...i just dont like the crazy vibration.

Tubed4evr · 02-09-2003, 07:36 PM

I got my B&M about 2 months ago and I love it. It just has such a solid feel and a dramatically shorter throw. The infamous rattle that everyone talks about is highly overated if you ask me. The only time its an issue is above 5500 RPM under load. Not noticable if you are just cruising. You will not be dissapointed with it.

kandyflip445 · 02-09-2003, 08:34 PM

The Nismo shifter will shorten the throw but not as much at the B&M. I does make the shifting a lot more solid though.

019 · 02-09-2003, 09:57 PM

i thought the nismo shifter didn't really shorten much. it was basically a solid replacement for the stock shifter?

kandyflip445 · 02-09-2003, 10:42 PM

Nismo Shifter Replacement
I purcahsed this because I wanted a firmer thow and more accurate shifter over the stock unit. The Nismo piece is quite nice (as expected) but at the same time not flashy. It did shorten the throw but just ever so slightly, but what impressed me was the feel over the actual throw length. Over all I am pleased but if you are looking for a true short shifter then this is not for you if you want a guarenteed quality shifter that feels much more precise with out all of the slop then go with this unit!

Joe Alford Rating: 8/10
1997 240sx SE Install: 7/10
jspec.com Price: 200+

There is the review from Zilvia.net's Review page.

RUTH'LESSDET · 02-11-2003, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nrcooled
I completely agree. I will be removing it soon because it sucks a$$. Worst mod ever. Spend the extra cash on the B&M....please!

I have the obx too it fits the SR Tranny...well i took it out that thing is garbage man dont get it...your better off dealing with the rattle or trying to get a Mr. c's, or just anything else

YellwMonky · 02-11-2003, 10:07 PM

wow....seems pretty unanimous that everything thinks the obx shifter sucks. Well, I have one and I don't think it's bad. It's MUCH better than the stock shifter. The rattle is not THAT bad. I mean, it's definitely there...I think the shifts feel much more solid with the OBX shifter in...o well, just my opinion

tnord · 02-11-2003, 10:18 PM

i'm either really lucky, or way better at installing stuff than you guys, because mine doesn't rattle at all, at least i don't hear it. if you live in a cold climate, don't get the OBX, it ends up grinding 2nd when cold, so you have to double clutch on the upshift of all things until the car warms up. it's a shorter and more solid throw most of the time, but sometimes that 1-2 just sucks ass.

85% of the time it works and has less of a "knife in a bowl of rocks" feel to it. with that said, i'm considering putting my OEM unit back in, but i'll have to buy some random little parts iirc.

(i have the 2nd gen obx btw)

Tricky1980 · 02-11-2003, 11:32 PM

well i have had my obx for like umm.. 9 months now.. i dont know if its first or second generation but i dont have any rattles.. and the only complaint would be the 1-2 shift when its REALLY COLD but is that really the shifter or is it transmission and clutch and all the other stuff? but yea, you can definately tell the difference between stock and obx never tried b&m but for 60$ i am EXTREMELY happy with what i got out of it
just standing up for my parts
JaY

tnord · 02-11-2003, 11:40 PM

i think it's the shifter........SS's have a tendency to mess with synchros iirc........which is why it grinds when you don't double-clutch and revmatch.

YellwMonky · 02-12-2003, 10:06 PM

I thought it had something to do with that transmission. Isn't that why our cars come with a weighted shiftknob?

tnord · 02-12-2003, 10:13 PM

what effect does a weighted shiftknob have?

YellwMonky · 02-12-2003, 10:17 PM

i guess its supposed to supress or absorb some of the shock that our transmissions put out when shifting gears. I noticed it a bit once i changed my shift knob. That's when I felt the bad 1-2 gear shift. When I changed to the OBX ss, I felt no difference.

*AceInHole* · 02-12-2003, 10:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tnord
what effect does a weighted shiftknob have?

Acts as a vibration dampner of sorts, IIRC.

I've been doing fine with my OBX/ Pilot short shifter.... maybe someday I'll try a B&M and get hooked, but untill then, I'd say the price makes it worth it for the gain of feel over stock.

fly240guy · 02-12-2003, 10:40 PM

i agree with tnord. i had the obx shifter on my other 240 and i never had any problems with it. i never heard any rattle or noise. maybe it was just the way u guys installed it. in fact the day i got my shifter installed, i took it to the track and raced with it. worked great!!

S14 K's · 02-13-2003, 10:01 AM

My OBX hasn't given me any problems yet, except I had to silicone seal the boot to the spacer because the "wall" of the spacer is too short for the boot to fit securely.

Other than that, everything's fine. And I had raced with it on the track as well.

crazyikimasho · 03-25-2003, 09:42 PM

would anyone that has taken out their OBX/Pilot shifters be interested in selling the spacer that came with them? I need the spacer for my C's, its the same size from what I am told.

**Phlip** · 03-25-2003, 10:26 PM

B&M fits KA and SR... Steeles has an SR and I'm still KA, we both have the B&M, but his feels a little softer to shift than mine does. Takes nothing from it though, still feels great. I would say that the B&M is the best shifter I have experienced in anything I have driven. The noise isn't an issue, because I don't hear it half the time. The KA isn't really in need of the revs it takes for the B&M to start the rattle, and when it does, music keeps me from hearing it.

s14slide · 03-25-2003, 10:32 PM

I'm gonna have to agree w/ the OBX/Pilot SS supporters. I have one, been on the car for about two years. One of my first upgrades. I couldn't stand the sloppiness of the stock shifter. Well worth the sixty bones I paid. Never had a problem w/ it except occasionally shifting into reverse of first from a stop, I'll have to kinda double clutch to get it into gear. I think that it might be my syncs on my now 200K tranny though.

02-09-2003, 12:53 AM	#1
LOwrestling2001 Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Bay Area Posts: 114 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	obx vs B&M short shifter hi, was wondering who likes their obx shifter, i know B&M is much better quality, but i wouldn't appreciate bothersome rattle in my car. so i was wondering what everyone thinks of their obx shifters, i just want a somewhat shorter shift and somewhat firmer than stock, doesn't have to be supershort or super solid.

02-09-2003, 09:59 AM	#2
Apparition Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ontario Posts: 439 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Use the search, its been covered countless times, and I do mean countless. B&M only rattles in the high rpm range, and its right at the end of the powerband. __________________ 1990 240sx coupe sold

02-09-2003, 03:08 PM	#5
kandyflip445 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arden, NC Age: 40 Posts: 4,460 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kandyflip445 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Just get the Nismo one if you have the money. That sounds like what you want. EDIT: Jspec has them for $190 right now. Last edited by kandyflip445; 02-09-2003 at 03:13 PM..

02-09-2003, 05:09 PM	#6
Bbandit Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Texas and now Jakarta Age: 43 Posts: 2,674 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Bbandit Feedback Score: 0 reviews	will b&m fit in both KA and SR?? im thinking of getting one too.. but since i dont have plan wether i'll keep the KA or go SR.. i just want to make sure that the B&M short shifter will fit in both __________________ ==>>TGL GARAGE<<==.. RIP! S13 coupe KA-T @ 0.5 Bar = SOLD! A31 Cefiro + SR = Current

02-09-2003, 09:57 PM	#12
019 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: blacksburg, va Posts: 697 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i thought the nismo shifter didn't really shorten much. it was basically a solid replacement for the stock shifter? __________________ Red '96 240sx www.streetdynamics.com

02-09-2003, 01:19 PM	#3
gsu240 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: GA Age: 43 Posts: 409 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i have the new obx shifter, i think its the worst mod i have added to my car. it rattles in high rpms and it is about the most annoying thing ever especially when you are driving on the interstate. it was cool for a while because it was easier to catch 2nd and jsut different but i think overall it sucks!!

02-09-2003, 05:13 PM	#7
JerkFaceJason Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 100 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	How hard is the B&M to install compared to the OBX? Doesn't it invlolve alot more work?

02-09-2003, 06:56 PM	#9
LOwrestling2001 Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Bay Area Posts: 114 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	but is the nismo a short shifter? i want the shift to actually be shorter...i just dont like the crazy vibration.

02-09-2003, 07:36 PM	#10
Tubed4evr Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Virginia Tech / Chesapeake, VA Posts: 223 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I got my B&M about 2 months ago and I love it. It just has such a solid feel and a dramatically shorter throw. The infamous rattle that everyone talks about is highly overated if you ask me. The only time its an issue is above 5500 RPM under load. Not noticable if you are just cruising. You will not be dissapointed with it.

02-09-2003, 08:34 PM	#11
kandyflip445 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arden, NC Age: 40 Posts: 4,460 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kandyflip445 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	The Nismo shifter will shorten the throw but not as much at the B&M. I does make the shifting a lot more solid though.

02-09-2003, 10:42 PM	#13
kandyflip445 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arden, NC Age: 40 Posts: 4,460 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kandyflip445 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Nismo Shifter Replacement I purcahsed this because I wanted a firmer thow and more accurate shifter over the stock unit. The Nismo piece is quite nice (as expected) but at the same time not flashy. It did shorten the throw but just ever so slightly, but what impressed me was the feel over the actual throw length. Over all I am pleased but if you are looking for a true short shifter then this is not for you if you want a guarenteed quality shifter that feels much more precise with out all of the slop then go with this unit! Joe Alford Rating: 8/10 1997 240sx SE Install: 7/10 jspec.com Price: 200+ There is the review from Zilvia.net's Review page.

02-11-2003, 10:07 PM	#15
YellwMonky Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Fog Town Posts: 341 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	wow....seems pretty unanimous that everything thinks the obx shifter sucks. Well, I have one and I don't think it's bad. It's MUCH better than the stock shifter. The rattle is not THAT bad. I mean, it's definitely there...I think the shifts feel much more solid with the OBX shifter in...o well, just my opinion __________________ s13 92 White 240sx SE Coupe

02-11-2003, 10:18 PM	#16
tnord Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,975 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i'm either really lucky, or way better at installing stuff than you guys, because mine doesn't rattle at all, at least i don't hear it. if you live in a cold climate, don't get the OBX, it ends up grinding 2nd when cold, so you have to double clutch on the upshift of all things until the car warms up. it's a shorter and more solid throw most of the time, but sometimes that 1-2 just sucks ass. 85% of the time it works and has less of a "knife in a bowl of rocks" feel to it. with that said, i'm considering putting my OEM unit back in, but i'll have to buy some random little parts iirc. (i have the 2nd gen obx btw)

02-11-2003, 11:32 PM	#17
Tricky1980 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Iowa Age: 44 Posts: 236 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well i have had my obx for like umm.. 9 months now.. i dont know if its first or second generation but i dont have any rattles.. and the only complaint would be the 1-2 shift when its REALLY COLD but is that really the shifter or is it transmission and clutch and all the other stuff? but yea, you can definately tell the difference between stock and obx never tried b&m but for 60$ i am EXTREMELY happy with what i got out of it just standing up for my parts JaY

02-11-2003, 11:40 PM	#18
tnord Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,975 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i think it's the shifter........SS's have a tendency to mess with synchros iirc........which is why it grinds when you don't double-clutch and revmatch.

02-12-2003, 10:06 PM	#19
YellwMonky Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Fog Town Posts: 341 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I thought it had something to do with that transmission. Isn't that why our cars come with a weighted shiftknob? __________________ s13 92 White 240sx SE Coupe

02-12-2003, 10:13 PM	#20
tnord Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,975 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	what effect does a weighted shiftknob have?

02-12-2003, 10:17 PM	#21
YellwMonky Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Fog Town Posts: 341 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i guess its supposed to supress or absorb some of the shock that our transmissions put out when shifting gears. I noticed it a bit once i changed my shift knob. That's when I felt the bad 1-2 gear shift. When I changed to the OBX ss, I felt no difference. __________________ s13 92 White 240sx SE Coupe

02-12-2003, 10:40 PM	#23
fly240guy Leaky Injector Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: houston Age: 42 Posts: 97 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i agree with tnord. i had the obx shifter on my other 240 and i never had any problems with it. i never heard any rattle or noise. maybe it was just the way u guys installed it. in fact the day i got my shifter installed, i took it to the track and raced with it. worked great!! __________________ 2009 mazdaspeed 3

02-13-2003, 10:01 AM	#24
S14 K's Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 43 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	My OBX hasn't given me any problems yet, except I had to silicone seal the boot to the spacer because the "wall" of the spacer is too short for the boot to fit securely. Other than that, everything's fine. And I had raced with it on the track as well.

03-25-2003, 09:42 PM	#25
crazyikimasho Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: SoCal Posts: 2,329 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	would anyone that has taken out their OBX/Pilot shifters be interested in selling the spacer that came with them? I need the spacer for my C's, its the same size from what I am told. __________________ *PLEASE NOTE* I am no longer affiliated with West Covina Nissan.

03-25-2003, 10:26 PM	#26
Phlip Yes, I look like that Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In my supervillain's lair Posts: 27,980 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: Phlip Feedback Score: 19 reviews	B&M fits KA and SR... Steeles has an SR and I'm still KA, we both have the B&M, but his feels a little softer to shift than mine does. Takes nothing from it though, still feels great. I would say that the B&M is the best shifter I have experienced in anything I have driven. The noise isn't an issue, because I don't hear it half the time. The KA isn't really in need of the revs it takes for the B&M to start the rattle, and when it does, music keeps me from hearing it. __________________ Weirdo And I write too!

03-25-2003, 10:32 PM	#27
s14slide Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Nippon Age: 43 Posts: 630 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'm gonna have to agree w/ the OBX/Pilot SS supporters. I have one, been on the car for about two years. One of my first upgrades. I couldn't stand the sloppiness of the stock shifter. Well worth the sixty bones I paid. Never had a problem w/ it except occasionally shifting into reverse of first from a stop, I'll have to kinda double clutch to get it into gear. I think that it might be my syncs on my now 200K tranny though. __________________ = My day