Bumble-Bee Hondas

[hooter]

Some poeple like cruising other forums for knowledge about other cars. Some people like sticking to their own thing. Nothing in the rules that says you have to own a Nissan to post on this board.

-Charlie

[Dream240]

Okay I know this thread is really played out but here goes. For the record Jeff the 240sx was labeled a sport compact coupe for obvious reasons ( 2-doors?) Also the fact that there are alot of hondas on the road as opposed to Nissans, is really the only reason why you see so many "riced out" Civics and Accords. If the tables were turned and the Sentra out sold the Civic for 10 years, then you would see alot of Sentras rice burning down the road.
In all honesty I don't hate Hondas, just the driver that embarass their car with the usual crap. I see some fools ruin their beautiful Eclipses, Maximas, and Jettas every now and then too. So realistically all car manufacturers have their problems with the trashy taste.
I am a Nissan lover, since the day I drove off with my 240, but I don't deny that there are Nissan owners that really live up to the rice expectations set by the crowd.
I just think they should start citing people for their stupidity and poor taste with regards to their rides. It would make the world a better place!
And also, an exhaust can add good gains mainly in the high end, but the gains are a cumulative effect that when combined with a header and high flow cat, can really jump the dyno as opposed to upgrading without the exhaust. In other words, the exhaust just compliments your free flowing upgrades that much more than the stock, small, and numerously bent exhaust pipe.

[Kreator]

Originally posted by TegGSR96
your such a tool.. i see quite a few riced up nissans as well.. you say honda people do this, nissan people turbo.. ya right.. look around and most run around with park bench wings, led lights, big stereos, and nothing else.. get a clue cause its the same for every car company...
Alex

ok. take all the performance modded 240s and all the rice modded 240s. Then take all the performance modded civics and compare to all the rice modded civics. Then tell me which of those will have a greater percentage of rice mobiles. I dunnow about other performance oriented people, but i mainly got my 240 cuz i didn't want to be associated with ricers in the first place. People that get civics for ricing out are doing cuz everyone else is doing it.

tell me, how many true sleeper civics have you seen? Like a turbo civic w/o a bodykit or aftermarket rims? Now this statement is ignorant, but i'll say it. It seems to me most honda people turbocharge and make swaps in their cars only to get more points at the shows.

Cmon, you know civics aren't made for performance. Niether are accords. They aren't built to be abused. They are built for daily driving. You know that altezzas are lame looking. You know that 20" rims are ugly. And so are most body kits. Yet every single "modded" civic i see has that as a base package just like ihe. And for your info, a parkbench wing has a place on an rwd car, even though i still consider them rice.

[TegGSR96]

Originally posted by ryan hagen
.........no offense to the honda guys but dont you have your own forum?

thats a great comment.. go to your own board.. screw learning about other cars and opening your mind to new things.. ever wonder why people are so dead set on one company? because they dont bother looking into any others..
FYI im buying a 240sx this spring, as my GS-R is a write off (black ice took care of that for me).. i suppose since i have no car right now i shouldnt be on any board whatsoever
Alex

[ryan hagen]

well sure, i used to be on the 60degreev6 this **** happened all the time on there. some one would say somthing about dipalcemnt and some one would follow up with my civic on nitrous can take your berreta.....well sure it can i have a grand am its slow, but it was a good palce to start with cars because every thing on it broke once it hit 75k but i had fun. i personally dont care, i almost got a 91 crx, i m not so dead set on a 240 but when i saw a crx with chrome fender flares and big crome rims and a double deck aluminum wing i decided that i would get some thing no one else in my town has that is in decent shape, a 240, and what exactly is "ricer" i assume big wing?


we had one sleeper civic in my town, i think it ran like a 14 it looked stock he maybe had 1000$ into it but it beat a new ser spec v..it had stock hubcaps it had a pipe thats about the only way we knew somethign was up. stock hieght too. it used to be sweet, they guy who had it got too many dwi's and had to sell it and the second owner .... we ll the second guy ruined it
he put a double deck aluminum spoiler on it, alteza lights, left it stock height then and tinted the crap out of it and put r-racing stickers all over it......... personally it made me loose all respectfor that car

i m sure someone will come to defend the honda in question and rag on me all over but i dont care

[mrmephistopheles]

Enough bickering.

-Kevin

[Dream240]

Wow...I feel all enlightened...yeah right. Listen James, you may be a Zilvia junkie and think that you can tell all us newbies/leaky injectors that we're ingnorant, but I'm sure most of us are more experienced than you give us credit. I'm 24 and I've been working on cars for 10 years. I saw the early models of clear lenses and all that crap when it first came out and to be honest, most people didn't like them back then either. At least the people with class. Of course the magazine readers outnumber us, it's easier for those poor boys to buy a mag than a computer. Hence the cheap mods with duct tape and bubble holding them on. There's some of us that buy the mags AND talk to others on forums like Zilvia, and I see all the hype in the mags and at the car shows. And I think it's great for those guys to get their cars noticed. I have nothing against hondas, in fact the recent Import Tuner that posted the ACURA with a S-15 front end conversion pretty much shoots down your theory of only Nissan driver talking about front end conversions. And now that I think about it, I've never seen mags sell Civic conversions for the S-14, but I do see the Silvia conversion being sold for Civics and Acuras, hmmm.....interesting.
Yeah the stock 240 is slow, because it's been denied it's true calling, the SR-20. And if you compare Civics in the states to Japan's Civics they suck too! But comparing a 240 to an equal integra is a better comparison.
Sure Hondas jumped the aftermarket world ahead of Nissan, Mazda, Mitsubishi, Subaru, and Toyota, and that's the only reason why you will see the number of modded Civics larger than 240s with SR swaps, or Eclipses with turbos for that matter.
Also the things we 240 owners talk about are the same as any other car owners, it's what the car owners DO with those specific mods that makes them ricey. Get a clue. Car mods don't automatically equal rice racers....
Car styles do change, but not a fast as you may think. Last time I checked there are still Novas, and the like, cruising the streets with loud exhausts, fat tires, and lowered profiles. And late eighty-early ninety cars are still being modified and companies are still selling massive amounts of parts for these "oldies".

Oh, and I don't care if you weren't trying to insult us....you did.

[DarkRaptor42]

Ill put it like this, the recent hype in magizines has been about 240s and other RWD cars. HCI is the one who put it in print, this isnt an exact quote but it was along these lines "honda owners are looking for alternatives to there FWD cars". Dont belive me, read the mag. I know the 240 isnt the greatest car. I know there isnt any one set car thats the best. My saying that hondas sucked was based on my personal experinces with them and my social political upbringing. Dare I say it, I OWN A HONDA!!! sweet jesus, everyone just assumes I dont like them cause of rice. I have a CRX. Its a pile. Ive worked on hondas, they are piles. I dont like them, they are small and difficult to work on, and I VERY much so dont regaurd them on any level as a sports car. They werent meant to be and they arent. Its my opinion, to hell with everyone else. This is my last post on this thread. Im gonna go to class

[ktom49]

Man, I really didn't mean to turn this thread into a war. But it's kinda fun. All I meant was that Hondas are the most prevalent riced up car because there are sooooo many. Anyway, keep talking.

[hooter]

You guys are all lame. My car is the best. Except for dousan's. His car is pretty fly, yo.

-Charlie

[Dream240]

Hey...YO MAMA!!

[TegGSR96]

Yes hondas in japan suck as well.. makes sense.. they suck so they sell the most, have the most developped engines.. they are considered to be the most advanced car company on earth...

but hey hondas even in japan suck.. i suppose the fact its cars are #1 on all the circuits, the fact that a stock type r beats a stock 240sx with sr20det (now its a hell of a lot easier to mod the 240 but im saying stock for stock.. cause if you wanna talk easy to mod you would ignore a 240 and just get a camaro or something like that) doesnt change the fact hondas in japan sucks..

incase you werent aware i was being sarcastic with the hondas in japan suck... tell me this why the hell would i defend hondas if i dont own one anymore and my new passion is my soon to be 240?? maybe cause ive studied both companies, worked on both, and know a lot more then my post count lets on..

drive what you want to drive, ill drive what i want to drive (and hey, thats the same car... a 240).. so stfu and move on.
Alex

[THX1138]

"I dont know who the A$$ clown was who decided a honda was a race car but its not. "

Oh man, it's right on the tip of my tongue, why can't I remember? Um, I think he was Japanese, older gent, died about twelve years ago, pretty wealthy, smart fellow.

Aw yeah, it was (ta-dah!) Soichiro Honda! Yes kiddies, there were V12 Hondas (not just motors, they built the cars, too) in Formula One *TEN YEARS* before the first Civic came to America.

[Kreator]

Originally posted by TegGSR96
Yes hondas in japan suck as well.. makes sense.. they suck so they sell the most, have the most developped engines.. they are considered to be the most advanced car company on earth...

For your info, hondas in japan are waaaaay less popular than they are in US. Just fyi.

And don't go by that stupid video. A type r runs 14.7 in the quarter, a stock sr 14.5. The s15 sr does quater in 14.0. And your type r is missing one very important thing. It's fwd. But whatever. Why do i care.

[Kreator]

Originally posted by James
When was the last time you flew your butt from Maryland to Japan to discover this and become the authority on Japanese car sales and culture?...............right.

Hmmn, you're a mag racer huh. Believe only in numbers on paper? Well shoot- they got the video to prove it happened. You're going to argue with a video against your numbers on paper- GOOD ARGUMENT! You're MUCH smarter than I thought!


Well from the video the FWD beat the RWD, so FWD > RWD.
Put down the Import Tuner please.


Then I don't expect you to respond "if you don't care"

Lol james. You are too damn ****ing dumb.

First of all, i wasnt in japan ever. My dad vlew there twice in hte past year. Once in hte spring and once in the autumn. So my data is like 4 months old.

Now who told you that type-r was stock? who told you they on purpose didn't make the 240 run slower? lotsa things u don't take in account. I haven't seen/heard a single other "type r beat 240sx with stock sr" story.

That also takes care of your last paragraph.

[Jeff240sx]

I don't really know why this topic was allowed to go for more than 2 arguments, but I'm ending it.
-Jeff