HHO Gas Conversion anyone?

[gijoe69]

Hello recently I stumbled upon, in another forum about creating your own HHO (brown gas)...has anyone tried it with their Nissan or other vehicle? They say it can increase your Gas Mileage and better engine performance also a website saying something about.....if installed into the intake manifold it boosts up octane more.... and save alot of money in gas...I am tired of paying high pump gas in San Francisco, CA lol

[RedSVTFlareside]

info or a link. I don't know what brown gas is.

[jinesz32]

a co-worker told me about this, he said they don't use it because it raises your octane or something. lol!

[98s14inaz]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxyhydrogen

I think he is taking about this stuff. Sounds interesting but there is a catch with hydrogen that keeps it from making it mainstream. It takes a shit load of energy to break the bond of the hydrogen and oxygen in water. Yes combining the two in an engine is efficient and gives you water vapor but getting the hydrogen separate is quite the challenge.

[boozels]

some of my friends have done the HHO conversion on their cars and have gotten a crazy increase in gas milage
so it does work

[decco]

I've been doing some research on this subject for a little while and the process is quite in depth to get the car properly running. I would start by reading Stan Meyer's paper on the subject. Link

[kenshinS14sks]

i would love to see the result of this on an sr

[S14DB]

It's a scam.

I'll pull up the threads it's been covered in before...
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=110088

[dorkidori_s13]

you guys realize with a powerFC and bigger injectors you can easily run E85 in your 240s??

ive been running it for a few weeks now...kick ass fuel...tunes way better than 100 octane

the shop i work with here in town has been running it in TONS of their cars for years now (the majority of them are drag cars...one of them is a 9 second DSM)...weve had not one problem with it...only thing that you have to do is switch over to full synthetic oil (ethanol will wear out normal oil very quickly)

[S14DB]

You loose MPG running alcohol.

[Matej]

Convert your car to biodiesel, I want my exhaust to smell like onion rings.

[S14DB]

Originally Posted by Matej

Convert your car to biodiesel, I want my exhaust to smell like onion rings.

I was trying for some time to get a 2.5L Turbo Diesel from a AU/UK Pathfinder. 247ft/lbs. 187hp. Couldn't find an importer.

[kuruptR]

ugh, biofuel. We need to go hydrogen already.

[98s14inaz]

Originally Posted by S14DB

I was trying for some time to get a 2.5L Turbo Diesel from a AU/UK Pathfinder. 247ft/lbs. 187hp. Couldn't find an importer.

That would pwn. I'd be down for a group buy on that if you did ever find one.

[slideways2004]

Originally Posted by dorkidori_s13

you guys realize with a powerFC and bigger injectors you can easily run E85 in your 240s??

ive been running it for a few weeks now...kick ass fuel...tunes way better than 100 octane

the shop i work with here in town has been running it in TONS of their cars for years now (the majority of them are drag cars...one of them is a 9 second DSM)...weve had not one problem with it...only thing that you have to do is switch over to full synthetic oil (ethanol will wear out normal oil very quickly)

that's badass. i wish E85 was more available here in houston. i have only seen it once and that was at a Kroger station

[Phlip]

Originally Posted by dorkidori_s13

you guys realize with a powerFC and bigger injectors you can easily run E85 in your 240s??

ive been running it for a few weeks now...kick ass fuel...tunes way better than 100 octane

the shop i work with here in town has been running it in TONS of their cars for years now (the majority of them are drag cars...one of them is a 9 second DSM)...weve had not one problem with it...only thing that you have to do is switch over to full synthetic oil (ethanol will wear out normal oil very quickly)

I swear I would entertain this if the closest station with E85 weren't 40 minutes away from me.

[smelly240]

there are 2 stations in philadelphia *AREA* with e85 - but i lve like 15 mins from the closer one and its in center city...

if it was at any of the local stations here id do it.

[sillyvia13]

hho is real..I will convert my s13 to show the s chassis guys!

[LA_phantom_240]

Originally Posted by PHLIP

I swear I would entertain this if the closest station with E85 weren't 40 minutes away from me.

Dude, I don't even know how far the nearest one is, if it isn't more than 2-3 hours away.


And HHO isn't a scam. Its a far fetched idea with a lot of potential, but not a scam.

Now, I didn't click any of the other links, but some 'companies' are making ridiculous claims and charging way too much for stuff that doesn't even work worth a damn.

Its best left to people who have a lot of time to perfect their designs.

[awesomenick]

What about CNG? It's only $.67 a gallon out here. My friend has a KA24ET that's also CNG. I'll post some pictures when I get my camera back.

[Oo_Skyline_oO]

Originally Posted by awesomenick

What about CNG? It's only $.67 a gallon out here. My friend has a KA24ET that's also CNG. I'll post some pictures when I get my camera back.

wow please do and maybe some more info, I'd convert my KA24DE to CNG anyday

[Oo_Skyline_oO]

Originally Posted by dorkidori_s13

you guys realize with a powerFC and bigger injectors you can easily run E85 in your 240s??

ive been running it for a few weeks now...kick ass fuel...tunes way better than 100 octane

the shop i work with here in town has been running it in TONS of their cars for years now (the majority of them are drag cars...one of them is a 9 second DSM)...weve had not one problem with it...only thing that you have to do is switch over to full synthetic oil (ethanol will wear out normal oil very quickly)

is there a write up for this??? can you post pics and what power increases/decreases you get, and mpg??? if the CNG thing is too complex for me I'd like to try it. there's a few E85 stations near me.

[GSXRJJordan]

Natural gas is waaaaay less potent than gasoline, or even diesel. It might be $.70/gallon, but if you need 5 times as much to make the same amount of power, and can only carry 10 gallons, it's just a hassle.

[TheTimanator]

Originally Posted by boozels

some of my friends have done the HHO conversion on their cars and have gotten a crazy increase in gas milage
so it does work

Originally Posted by sillyvia13

hho is real..I will convert my s13 to show the s chassis guys!

I'm not calling BS...but I'd like you to prove it. I'd like to see it done and how hard or easy it can be done by your average person.

[Thrill]

so wait, you can convert your 240 to natural gas, but its not as powerful as gasoline? i dont understand do you still need 5 times as much natural gas as gasoline? how much do conversion kits go for?

[Thrill]

its something to consider because my 240 is my daily driver and i commute alot, im sure its gotta be something that can be possibly negative about this but we all just want more info.

[S14DB]

The average person wouldn't be able to fill their own CNG. Takes about 15mins to fill. All the idiots that have gasoline fires. Imagine that with a invisible gas.

It's a good option for fleets but I don't see joe idiot using it.

[Thrill]

i wouldnt consider myself joe idiot if thats the main issue, actually using the pump, i mean what is another downside? because so far the good outweighs the negative

[S14DB]

"CNG vehicles have lower fuel efficiency than hybrid vehicles. A Civic GX, for example, averages 32 mpg, while a Civic Hybrid is rated at 50 mpg. So while a GGE of CNG is cheaper, the Civic GX needs more fuel to operate, and therefore costs per mile are actually higher."

[delphis]

honda has a hydrogen car coming out in 2010 I believe.