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devonkyle77 · 07-25-2008, 04:26 PM

ok i am putting z32 uprights on my s14 and i have some issues. first of all the nut for the ball joint on the Lower control arm is stripped and i need to replace it. does anyone know what size it is?

furthermore on the z32 upright, it looks like a washer should go under the nut for the ball joint, anyone know what size?

i know these may be simple questions, but i am 500 miles from my car, and i am sending my father to the hardware store tomorrow since i am out of town on business. i would like to be able to tell him what to get specifically as not to waste his time.
thanks in advance, and as always i appreciate your help.

devonkyle77 · 07-26-2008, 04:06 PM

anyone? please!

Sir · 07-27-2008, 01:37 AM

as far as Z32 uprights, there are special "seats" that go on ball joint before the spindle can be put on. you're probably missing that, thats why you have extra space up top. Dunno thats my guess. They're only $7 at nissan.

UNISA JECS · 07-27-2008, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Sir

as far as Z32 uprights, there are special "seats" that go on ball joint before the spindle can be put on. you're probably missing that, thats why you have extra space up top. Dunno thats my guess. They're only $7 at nissan.

To add to this further, im not sure if S14 rear lower ball joints are the same as those of the S13. If they are not then your gonna need S13/Z32 lower control arms to make this work.

The S13 and Z32 share the same exact lower control arm and ball joints, and only the conical insert works on the S13 and Z32 ball joint, not sure about the S14 ball joint but I think its bigger and will not work but dont quote me.

devonkyle77 · 07-27-2008, 07:21 AM

you guys are both wrong. besides, this has nothing to do with the conical seat.

devonkyle77 · 07-27-2008, 09:22 AM

for the record the nut in question is m14 X ????

95KA-Turbo · 07-27-2008, 09:33 AM

Have him compare it to your wheel studs, if it is more coarse then that it is probably M14X1.00....is he not able to take the bolt with him to the hardware store?

devonkyle77 · 07-27-2008, 10:08 AM

hey buddy i pm'ed you since im coming to va beach soon, pm me back!

btw, wheel studs are m12 x 1.25, not m14

projectRDM · 07-27-2008, 10:45 AM

It's a 1.25 pitch, but I don't recall the size. M14 sounds too large but it may be it.

You cannot use S13/Z32 Aarms on an S14 unless you use a stack of washers, the mounting staunches on the subframe are wider. The S14 Aarm works fine with no issue, just use the corresponding Z32 hardware.

UNISA JECS · 07-27-2008, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by projectRDM

It's a 1.25 pitch, but I don't recall the size. M14 sounds too large but it may be it.

You cannot use S13/Z32 Aarms on an S14 unless you use a stack of washers, the mounting staunches on the subframe are wider. The S14 Aarm works fine with no issue, just use the corresponding Z32 hardware.

Or install Enery suspension LCA bushings for a S14 on the S13/Z32 LCA, this is exactly the opposite I had to do on my J30 LCA onto my S13.

and since I know taht the J30 LCA part that bolts to the sub-frame is the same as the S14 those bushing would work.....but the catch is the J30 uses a ball joint that bigger than the s13/z32 so it wont work.

UNISA JECS · 07-27-2008, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by devonkyle77

you guys are both wrong. besides, this has nothing to do with the conical seat.

OK IC so I assume that the Z32 conical insert fits on the S14 ball joint perfectly then?

projectRDM · 07-27-2008, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by UNISA JECS

About the washer im almost 100% sure it doesn't use a washer because the OEM nut has a flare/skirt to it at the bottom that acts as a washer, im looking at a Z32 LCA that I have right now with the conical insert and nut.

You're right. Z32 uses a flared nut. S13 and S14 use a flat nut. J30 uses a flat nut with a washer.

devonkyle77 · 07-27-2008, 01:47 PM

thanks for the posts russ.

devonkyle77 · 07-27-2008, 03:01 PM

btw, just for argument sake i tested the nut on a wheel stud which is m12 x 1.25 and it slipped right down to knurl, so its got to be m14.

tracks13 · 07-28-2008, 01:00 PM

So to fit this on an s13 one needs that conical spacer? 100%? Where can one get it and whats the part number. Anyone?

UNISA JECS · 07-28-2008, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by tracks13

So to fit this on an s13 one needs that conical spacer? 100%? Where can one get it and whats the part number. Anyone?

Yes you need the conical inserts without a doubt.

Part# 40173-33P00 Dealer

devonkyle77 · 07-28-2008, 03:41 PM

OMG, russ was wrong, lol.
what? NEVER
haha but seriously, thread pitch is actually 1.50, not 1,25
so yes, it was m14 x 1.50

Gumballf355 · 07-28-2008, 03:59 PM

Conical seat.

projectRDM · 07-28-2008, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by devonkyle77

OMG, russ was wrong, lol.
what? NEVER
haha but seriously, thread pitch is actually 1.50, not 1,25
so yes, it was m14 x 1.50

Damn. Owned. I honestly don't claim to know it all so it's good to be tested once in a while. Now that it's brought up I do remember using a die to rethread a damaged ball joint like seven years ago and it being a 1.5 pitch.

07-25-2008, 04:26 PM	#1
devonkyle77 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: md Age: 41 Posts: 3,091 Trader Rating: (3) Rides Gallery: devonkyle77 Feedback Score: 3 reviews	s14 rear LCA balljoint/z32 uprights ok i am putting z32 uprights on my s14 and i have some issues. first of all the nut for the ball joint on the Lower control arm is stripped and i need to replace it. does anyone know what size it is? furthermore on the z32 upright, it looks like a washer should go under the nut for the ball joint, anyone know what size? i know these may be simple questions, but i am 500 miles from my car, and i am sending my father to the hardware store tomorrow since i am out of town on business. i would like to be able to tell him what to get specifically as not to waste his time. thanks in advance, and as always i appreciate your help. __________________ WTB-NARDI wheel & NRG 2.8 QR

07-26-2008, 04:06 PM	#2
devonkyle77 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: md Age: 41 Posts: 3,091 Trader Rating: (3) Rides Gallery: devonkyle77 Feedback Score: 3 reviews	anyone? please! __________________ WTB-NARDI wheel & NRG 2.8 QR

07-27-2008, 07:21 AM	#5
devonkyle77 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: md Age: 41 Posts: 3,091 Trader Rating: (3) Rides Gallery: devonkyle77 Feedback Score: 3 reviews	you guys are both wrong. besides, this has nothing to do with the conical seat. __________________ WTB-NARDI wheel & NRG 2.8 QR

07-27-2008, 09:22 AM	#6
devonkyle77 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: md Age: 41 Posts: 3,091 Trader Rating: (3) Rides Gallery: devonkyle77 Feedback Score: 3 reviews	for the record the nut in question is m14 X ???? __________________ WTB-NARDI wheel & NRG 2.8 QR

07-27-2008, 09:33 AM	#7
95KA-Turbo Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: LA Age: 39 Posts: 3,402 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Have him compare it to your wheel studs, if it is more coarse then that it is probably M14X1.00....is he not able to take the bolt with him to the hardware store? __________________ Instagram - SJKnoop

07-27-2008, 01:37 AM	#3
Sir Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: IL Posts: 913 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	as far as Z32 uprights, there are special "seats" that go on ball joint before the spindle can be put on. you're probably missing that, thats why you have extra space up top. Dunno thats my guess. They're only $7 at nissan.

07-27-2008, 10:08 AM	#8
devonkyle77 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: md Age: 41 Posts: 3,091 Trader Rating: (3) Rides Gallery: devonkyle77 Feedback Score: 3 reviews	hey buddy i pm'ed you since im coming to va beach soon, pm me back! btw, wheel studs are m12 x 1.25, not m14 __________________ WTB-NARDI wheel & NRG 2.8 QR

07-27-2008, 10:45 AM	#9
projectRDM Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Age: 51 Posts: 13,812 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	It's a 1.25 pitch, but I don't recall the size. M14 sounds too large but it may be it. You cannot use S13/Z32 Aarms on an S14 unless you use a stack of washers, the mounting staunches on the subframe are wider. The S14 Aarm works fine with no issue, just use the corresponding Z32 hardware. __________________ FORMERLY R240NA Learn what's really going on and protect your assets now before they're gone forever: www.paypalsucks.com

07-27-2008, 01:47 PM	#13
devonkyle77 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: md Age: 41 Posts: 3,091 Trader Rating: (3) Rides Gallery: devonkyle77 Feedback Score: 3 reviews	thanks for the posts russ. __________________ WTB-NARDI wheel & NRG 2.8 QR

07-27-2008, 03:01 PM	#14
devonkyle77 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: md Age: 41 Posts: 3,091 Trader Rating: (3) Rides Gallery: devonkyle77 Feedback Score: 3 reviews	btw, just for argument sake i tested the nut on a wheel stud which is m12 x 1.25 and it slipped right down to knurl, so its got to be m14. __________________ WTB-NARDI wheel & NRG 2.8 QR

07-28-2008, 01:00 PM	#15
tracks13 BANNED Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Toronto, Canada Age: 40 Posts: 41 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	So to fit this on an s13 one needs that conical spacer? 100%? Where can one get it and whats the part number. Anyone?

07-28-2008, 03:41 PM	#17
devonkyle77 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: md Age: 41 Posts: 3,091 Trader Rating: (3) Rides Gallery: devonkyle77 Feedback Score: 3 reviews	OMG, russ was wrong, lol. what? NEVER haha but seriously, thread pitch is actually 1.50, not 1,25 so yes, it was m14 x 1.50 __________________ WTB-NARDI wheel & NRG 2.8 QR

07-28-2008, 03:59 PM	#18
Gumballf355 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Age: 45 Posts: 605 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Conical seat.