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Old 07-27-2008, 02:30 PM   #1
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Knock sensing flags

I wanna see how many members that tune there own ECU's (Calum/Nistune etc) have to say about the subject, do any of you disable your knock sensing flags or modify them?

I ask this because after doing soem datalogging its quite easy to see that sometimes the ECU well retard timing sometimes (I really doubt that im am truely knocking) as low as 8* a WOT and soemtimes not as much or none at all within side the flaged portions, once out of this flaged portion timing continues as prescribed on the map.

I'd also like to point out that I do have knock sesning enabled..duh.

I also looked at factory turbo'd timing maps in reguards to there flaged portions vs there NA counter parts and the SR20DET only flags knock up to 3200rpm whereas the NA SR20DE flags up to 4850rpm.

The NA KA24DE (like theres a turbo one from the factory lol) flags knock up to 4800rpm.

Im starting to think maybe there is just more noise on a turbocharged vehicle with regaurd to monitoring knock successfully hence the lack of upper rpm knock sensing of the SR20DET and VG30DETT.
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S13 SR20DE

S13 SR20DET

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Z32 VG30DETT
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Old 07-27-2008, 02:33 PM   #2
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I have noticed my car kicking into the secondary maps when there doesn't seem to be any real knock, and I have definitely heard a bit of knock without kicking into the secondary maps.

Once you actually go to the secondary maps, it seems the car stays on there for some set driving cycle, and doesn't immediately go back to normal maps.


Thanks for posting the stock maps up, I forgot how goofy the stock ignition maps are from the early 90's Nissans....
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