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Old 06-17-2003, 05:44 PM   #1
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Lets say I live in california, have an SR, get pulled over, what happens?

What kind of legal ramifications? Fines, etc?
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heavy fines
car impoundment leading to loss of car
hassle from cops
long wiat times at state and a court date or two
if they impound your car, you'll have to battle it out maybe
also smog laws and laws in general have been broken

cali is a big risk. gotta be ready for the worst.
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Old 06-17-2003, 05:47 PM   #3
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I found the answer to exactly what your looking for at this link!
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Old 06-17-2003, 06:35 PM   #4
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I dont know how they do things in Cali, but I know where I live, if you get pulled over cop never ask to see your engine. If you just act like everything is cool, then how are they gonna know, other than doing an emmisions test?
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I doubt they would actually impound the car immediately, though I dont live there so I don't know for sure. They would issue a ticket which you would not be able to resolve without "fixing" the car, and your registration would be revoked, meaning next time you get pulled over you would get a ticket for driving a non-registered car, which could lead to impounding and heavy fines.
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redline racer is right! When do they ever ask you to pop your hood when you get pulled over? My friend (sr20) almost got sent to an official by a cop who pulled him over... But he talked his way out of it. But that was only because his car is pretty wild.-

ps by the way an official will probly issue you a fix-it ticket, will must result in replacement of the motor.
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Old 06-18-2003, 12:42 AM   #8
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When you get pulled over by a cop?


Simple: (Seriously)


Don't pop the hood.



He's not going to like it but if you give him no reason to pop it then he can **** off.

I can't think of any reason for him to LEGALLY require you to pop the hood.

Guages are not probable cause.
Turbo timer is not probable cause. (Like they even know what that is)
BOV noise may be good enough of a reason, but it could also be seen as an exhaust leak "behind my catback officer"


If I ever have to, I will not be popping my hood for any officer come hell or high water.
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Old 06-18-2003, 03:09 AM   #9
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When you get pulled over, just...



BEND OVER, BUDDY!





Put a big "I HAVE AN ILLEGAL MOTOR THAT WILL NEVER PASS EMISSIONS UNDER MY HOOD" sticker right underneath your passenger window. Cops like honest people. Honest.

I thought you were selling your S14...
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when he asks you to pop the hood say , "sure Buddy" but actually put it in 1st and GUN IT, Put the SR20 to use and get away while you can! Drive away to a big warehouse near the beach park the car in a garage close the garage doors, police will come but SUDDENLY the warehouse doors open and out go the DODGE rams, ramming the police cars. after that have all these other Ricer cars come out and confuse the police and some how not have 1 car collide into another, while you quickly escape! WHAT A MASTER PLAN!
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Nah, RedlineRacer is right.

It's very, very unlikely that a cop is going to ask to see what you've got under your hood, and even if they do, how in the hell are they going to know that an SR20DET is "illegal"? After all, it DOES say Nissan on it, so who's to say that isn't the engine that originally came with the car? The only cop that's going to recognize an SR20DET for what it is is going to be an enthusiast, and will probably give you a thumbs-up anyway.

You all are over-analyzing this one. Most people, including cops, are NOT like us. MOST people do not debate things like the RB26DETT vs. the 2JZ-GTE or the Kouki vs. the Zenki. In fact, MOST people think that's all just a bit strange. We're "special".
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Old 06-18-2003, 02:46 PM   #12
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Nah, RedlineRacer is right.

It's very, very unlikely that a cop is going to ask to see what you've got under your hood, and even if they do, how in the hell are they going to know that an SR20DET is "illegal"? After all, it DOES say Nissan on it, so who's to say that isn't the engine that originally came with the car? The only cop that's going to recognize an SR20DET for what it is is going to be an enthusiast, and will probably give you a thumbs-up anyway.

You all are over-analyzing this one. Most people, including cops, are NOT like us. MOST people do not debate things like the RB26DETT vs. the 2JZ-GTE or the Kouki vs. the Zenki. In fact, MOST people think that's all just a bit strange. We're "special".
Yayy. Someone makes sense. I did some reading up on laws and what probable cause and just cause is. Basically, they can ask you to pop your hood, but the only time you would be required to is if you were doing something very wrong. I think Street racing is one of those things. Even then, they usually wont recognize an SR, they recognize modified intakes and turbos and exhausts, etc... Also, most of the time the cops ask you to pop your hood they are just trying to scare you into thinking you need to. You CAN say no. Will you be scared as **** and praying he doesn't bash you in the face with his mag light and tie you to... ok thats a little overboard, but you know what i mean. Just cause they ask dont mean you have to.
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Old 06-18-2003, 02:54 PM   #13
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I am selling my car...but..I could decide to keep it and go SR..but I probably won't. Who knows.

Yeah I'm selling my 98 240sx SE with mods..check classified.

Does anyone actually know anyone who's gotten in trouble for having an SR?

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Old 06-18-2003, 03:00 PM   #14
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If you pop the hood, there are quite a few cops who will be "educated" enough to spot the turbo. It's pretty easy to see even with the heatshield on the ex mani. SR in CA is a risky proposition. Deal with it. Don't do anything that would warrant being pulled over.
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Is it illegal to turbo an existing engine? How would they know you didn't just turbocharge the KA?

Cops and drugs have a lot in common. They both love to victimize younger people, ruin lives and are like a monkey on your back all the time.

Remember kids, just say NO!

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Old 06-18-2003, 04:51 PM   #16
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um, KA turbo is also illegal in CA
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Old 06-18-2003, 06:56 PM   #17
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cops arn't bad if you're not doing something stupid, or illegal. (the majority of them)
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In FLA, we do not have an emission standard anymore. Use to, not now. Too many Latinos providing serious wealth to the economy and driving cars pasted together...for that to help the state...plus, Fla is one place where you can come to with NOTHING and make it work.

If 240SX drivers do drifting events on the street and we are well known to have outragously fast vette eating cars (not mine..vette tieing) then all 240SX's are being watched. So far this is not happening at all. Reason:

Respect for public highways and professionalism.

You can drive any damn thing you please to if you obey traffic laws. In Cali...I would drive like granpa Smith on the road...but not blocking traffic.


Ther speed limits are artificially low here as well. Imagine going to work under a 25 limit for 7 miles and 9 school zones of 15MPH...I creep to work..and when I get on company property, the folks at the job stand outside to see me blow it out in the lot..I did a major roastout 3 weeks ago. Like 4 serios doughnuts with barely any room between me and other cars...but heh...I am good hehehe

Ever heard of the two stop intersection?

In FLA, it is law to stop at the sign and count to 4...and then roll up where you can see and count to 4 stopped.

You drive like this, no cop will say anything.

Just driving around care free is what will get you into trouble. Beleive me, their is plenty of street action here in S FLA...but just don't be a part of it and all is well.

The point of this post is simply...in Cali, do not get sited. Keep it low and slow. Do not try to look like a bad boy./;

Track time is so cheap...and if you really want to turbo your car....then make sure you practice the BOV and not let it speak too loud. If it does and a cop hears it...holy sh!tola

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Amazing... Bill i think i have yet to see a post of yours that is less than 2 paragraphs long. however you would think that sooner or later your posts would start to make sense... hmmmm weird!
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Yeah, Bill Does write alot. But it's cool, he just gets off on alot of tangents. I wish I could say that same. Most of my post are like 2 or 3 sentences (if you can call them a sentence) and thats when I feel like writing alot.
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Amazing... Bill i think i have yet to see a post of yours that is less than 2 paragraphs long. however you would think that sooner or later your posts would start to make sense... hmmmm weird!
oh man i seriously cant stop crying dude leave billy alone i like reading his posts they have meaning!
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yeah, bills got something we dont have (or at least most of us)....

age and experiance (i mean come on, those doughnuts he talked about must have been hard)...

im just waiting for him to get bored, and start writing shorter posts, anyone wanna make a bet on how long it will take?

just messin with ya bill

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I'm not hating on Bill, i love the windbag! Just was making an observation!
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Well guys, chp pulled me over a few weeks back for going 90 on an offramp. I have planned the gauges to be hidden under the radio and have a din-sized piece of plastic that covers them completely always within easy reach. Unfortunately it was a motorcycle cop and he could easily see any hand movements because of the high seating position so I chose NOT to hide the gauges (I guess you can't plan for everything). He walks over to me with this "damn you were going fast" look and asks me how fast I was going. He then sees my 3 white-faced greddy gauges but doesn't say anything. I was a little nervous but there was no way the hood was going up. I also have a cat so he can look under the car and verify it if need be. Probable cause or consent is necesary for searching your private property (under the hood, glove box, trunk...).

My car is loud with a 3" turbo back and also has 255 17's in the rear. I was lucky he made no comment on the gauges, especially considering the circumstances. I would recommend everyone plan for getting pulled over and have ready-made explanations for gauges (I do), not opening the hood and so on. I also have the AVCR and A/F monitor in the glovebox so I put my registration info in the center console which means no one gets a peak in the glovebox.

However, the bottom line is that you could be really screwed if things go bad.
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gauges cant be probable cause imo! but what do i know
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I agree. Niether is an exhaust probable cause IMO. Who knows what constitutes probable cuase for sure though? Circumstance will play a big role.
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um, KA turbo is also illegal in CA
last i checked, my friend smogged his legally.
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last i checked, my friend smogged his legally.
No he did'nt.

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last i checked, my friend smogged his legally.
Yes, he smogged it "legally"...



All you non-CA guys really shouldn't be making educated stabs at this, as you don't know the full extent of what is actually going on out here. BAR (Bureau of Automotive Repair), in conjunction with CHP, does routine roadside checks. Basically, they block off a street, and have cars that match a profile - age of vehicle, type of vehicle - onto a mobile sniffer. They also pop your hood. There's no way out of it... No crying or pleading. Your hood will be popped, and you will be subjected to the sniffer. If you see the roadblock ahead and decide to make a U-turn, the CHP will come after you, wondering why you are trying to evade a state pollution checkpoint. Basically, you are SOL. Welcome to California.
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good post choku

best bet: BUY A BEATER/DAILY DRIVER. then use the SR for track use, even if it is still 'street legal'
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