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808Supra · 07-14-2003, 02:10 AM

not sure if this goes in the technical forum or not...but o well.

just wondering if anyone has a Tein HE manuel in english, or were they all writen in Japanese? I got mine in Japan 2 years ago so Im not sure how the US ones came. I need to know some things about that little green plastic thing that came with them. Thanks!

drift into a curb · 07-14-2003, 02:13 AM

http://www.tein.com/ti/inst/yn20u.pdf

Does the installation manual cover it?

kuroi s14 · 07-14-2003, 02:40 AM

If your refering to the long L shaped plastic peice that says Tein on it, that's just to make sure that you have enough legal ground clearance. Remember In Japan they have to go thru Shaken which is somewhat like smog test but more elaborate, some pretty tuff standards. I think no less than 9 inches will pass

808Supra · 07-14-2003, 05:36 AM

hum... the manu dosnt go over it.. weird..

stupid green thing, ive had it forever and had no idea what it was for. Then my friend said it was for the sugested ride hight or somthing...

weird..

Dousan_PG · 07-14-2003, 08:45 AM

yeah i dont know what that thing is for haha
i just threw it away. obviously nothing to do for performance...
maybe ride, doesnt it have some ruler on it? i guess its good if you dont have a tape measure?

Stee Flo · 07-14-2003, 01:19 PM

Yeah i also wondered about that green thing. Like kurio said it is for measuring ground clearance(i think). In the japanese manual it has an illustration of someone measuring the clearance with it.

MorganS13 · 07-14-2003, 02:32 PM

sell it on ebay as a "JDM ride height monitor"

charlie@justdrift · 07-14-2003, 03:58 PM

> I recommend to set up your TypeHE. Please check below.
>
> *Ride height (Hub center to femder)
> Front : around 320mm
> Rear : around 315mm
>
> *Damping force set up (Click No.)
> Front : Depending your feeling.
> Rear : Depending your feeling.
> But...you should start up at No. 8 front & 8rear.
> and then ,You got a some feeling and something you want,
> Please turning click knob & change click setup.
>
> Click setup is...
>
> Full colockwise is No.0, It's hardest setup.
> Turn back to Unclockwise setup are going softer.

Chokets · 07-15-2003, 10:29 AM

apparently there's some kind of height regulation in japan, it's a measurer for that height, like from your cat to the ground... i believe it's the standard size of a speed bump in japan, like 80mm, right?

Stee Flo · 07-15-2003, 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chokets
apparently there's some kind of height regulation in japan, it's a measurer for that height, like from your cat to the ground... i believe it's the standard size of a speed bump in japan, like 80mm, right?

Anyone know the standard size of a speed bump in the U.S? That would probably be the lowest you should set your car for daily driving.

Dousan_PG · 07-15-2003, 01:46 PM

my car was so low my frame rail hit the speed bump. NOT COOL
hahaha..

fixed that. ill measure where its at now, everything seems to clear except steep driveways..but that's always gonig to be an issue unless you are stock height...and sometimes need to be higher then that too.

Stee Flo · 07-15-2003, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dousan36
fixed that. ill measure where its at now, everything seems to clear except steep driveways..but that's always gonig to be an issue unless you are stock height...and sometimes need to be higher then that too.

Mine isnt set too low but i still had a little trouble getting out of the 7-eleven parking lot yesterday. It has a dip coming out of the lot and when i rolled out one of my rear wheels was alittle off the ground spinning with minimal traction. Open diff sucks

I need an lsd.

nokeone · 07-15-2003, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dousan36
my car was so low my frame rail hit the speed bump. NOT COOL
hahaha..

fixed that. ill measure where its at now, everything seems to clear except steep driveways..but that's always gonig to be an issue unless you are stock height...and sometimes need to be higher then that too.

let us know when you measure it..

i'm most worried about that damn front lip..the thing is like millimeters off the ground...

Dousan_PG · 07-15-2003, 02:23 PM

mine is low too
but not horrible
its mean to scrape. its a warnign
it is more for comedy
scraping lip, clunking and skipping rear tires (from LSD) makes people give me dirty and WTF looks in parking lots

best is when the tire sqeels i get lots of dirty looks for parents with kids walking thru the lot

good times

now imagine sideskirts on that soon hahaha

edit:
from center of wheel well (fender) to ground
front is 61.5 cm
rear is 60.5 cm

yes i know front is slightly higher up. but 1cm is not much. weight shift to rear

this is with 205/55/15 tires

nokeone · 07-15-2003, 03:06 PM

yeah i might have to raise mine up a little bit..just to be safe..we'll see..i'll measure when i get home..

..

also what do you set your Teins at damper wise for normal driving?..uhh we'll say 0 being softest and 16 being stiffest (arbitrary values)..

hey when you comin back up north?..there is a pretty fun small time event on August 3rd in Monterey, well Marina to be exact (it's like 25 min from Santa Cruz), if you wanna get a tiny bit of warm up in before Buttonwillow..

Dousan_PG · 07-15-2003, 03:10 PM

aug 3...hmm i'll chck my schedule. for now im maybe but that might be yes if i find out im free that weekend!! thanks! (can i drift there?) hehe...

my Teins were at 8 clicks in from hardest daily drive..sometimes 10. i dont like it too soft. i like to haul around corners so low damper=sot springs is just annoying.

nokeone · 07-15-2003, 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dousan36
aug 3...hmm i'll chck my schedule. for now im maybe but that might be yes if i find out im free that weekend!! thanks! (can i drift there?) hehe...

my Teins were at 8 clicks in from hardest daily drive..sometimes 10. i dont like it too soft. i like to haul around corners so low damper=sot springs is just annoying.

cool..that is pretty much what i have them set at..werd..lol..

alright well hopefully you are free that weekend..

yeah you can most definately drift..that is the only reason we go there..it's technically an AutoX but they allow us to drift because we know the person who puts it on personally through Full Speed..plus there are only about 4 of us out of 100 or so participants who drift..but he hooks us up...we don't even have to show up at 8am like everyone else..we can cruise in at like 12:30 and run in the afternoon groups..

..but yeah it's alot of fun and only $25...the ground is an airfield so its relatively smooth and doesn't kill your tires..

Dousan_PG · 07-15-2003, 03:37 PM

nice. yeah i should be free

DoriftoSlut · 07-15-2003, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dousan36
nice. yeah i should be free

yeah and I should have my car here.. Hmm... touge weekend in Santa Cruz and then a $"5 event Aaron? you interested?

Dousan_PG · 07-15-2003, 03:57 PM

aug 3 is 3 weeks away...ur car going to swim over here?

DoriftoSlut · 07-15-2003, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dousan36
aug 3 is 3 weeks away...ur car going to swim over here?

ROFL!!! I was thinking Sept. 3rd. LOL

nokeone · 07-15-2003, 04:21 PM

hahah...swim..i like that..

..lol

there should be another one in September though...

so maybe you can come to that one if your car will be here by then..it is definately the more the merrier..within reason of course..and assuming the people are cool..lol..but any friend of Dousan's............

ok, yes i'm a nooob...but i have to ask..Touge = Grip

DoriftoSlut · 07-15-2003, 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nokeone
ok, yes i'm a nooob...but i have to ask..Touge = Grip

Touge = mountain pass. grip or drift. We would do both. Grip first, Drift later (after learning the lines and intracacies of said passes...). Need CB Radios by then....

nokeone · 07-15-2003, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dorifto180sx
Touge = mountain pass. grip or drift. We would do both. Grip first, Drift later (after learning the lines and intracacies of said passes...). Need CB Radios by then....

very cool...thank you..

yeah my friends and i just purchased some walkie talkie type radios with headsets that are voice activated..and i think they have like a 3-mile range or somethin..very cool though..can't wait to try them out..getting tried of using cell phones and/or light flashing to denote what we are trying to say to eachother..

Dousan_PG · 07-15-2003, 04:39 PM

cool
dorifto. check your pm on FA

cb radios rock

has anyone lowered their coilovers to the ground yet? hahaha..i want to try that one day

nokeone · 07-15-2003, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dousan36
has anyone lowered their coilovers to the ground yet? hahaha..i want to try that one day

hahah..i can only imagine what that would do to my rear camber as i lack the parts to adjust it..and i think the front would actually be on the ground..i can't imagine i would ever be able to get the jack out..as is, it wont come out of the front without the back being raised a tiny bit..then dropping the back last...

boro240 · 07-15-2003, 07:29 PM

touge also can refer to the apex of a corner, or difficult part.

Stee Flo · 07-17-2003, 01:31 PM

I had a question about adjusting the camber on the HE. I adjusted the front camber today and im not certain how much i did it. There are ruler lines on the top of the camber plate and i put it to the fourth mark. Does each marking measure in 0.5 degree increments or is it measured in 1 degree increments? If its .5 then i have it a -2 camber.

Dousan_PG · 07-17-2003, 01:35 PM

i dont think its meant to be degrees. i think its for accuracy on each side.

also remember, HEs have a eccentric bolt so make sure you are alerady aligned properly w/ that bolt before playing w/ the camber plates

also more camber=toe in.

Stee Flo · 07-17-2003, 01:37 PM

cool thanks.

07-14-2003, 02:10 AM	#1
808Supra Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hawaii Posts: 188 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Dousan or anyone with Tein HEs not sure if this goes in the technical forum or not...but o well. just wondering if anyone has a Tein HE manuel in english, or were they all writen in Japanese? I got mine in Japan 2 years ago so Im not sure how the US ones came. I need to know some things about that little green plastic thing that came with them. Thanks! __________________

07-14-2003, 05:36 AM	#4
808Supra Zilvia Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hawaii Posts: 188 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	hum... the manu dosnt go over it.. weird.. stupid green thing, ive had it forever and had no idea what it was for. Then my friend said it was for the sugested ride hight or somthing... weird.. __________________

07-14-2003, 08:45 AM	#5
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	yeah i dont know what that thing is for haha i just threw it away. obviously nothing to do for performance... maybe ride, doesnt it have some ruler on it? i guess its good if you dont have a tape measure? __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

07-14-2003, 01:19 PM	#6
Stee Flo Endless Knights Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NoVa Age: 46 Posts: 528 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yeah i also wondered about that green thing. Like kurio said it is for measuring ground clearance(i think). In the japanese manual it has an illustration of someone measuring the clearance with it. __________________

07-15-2003, 10:29 AM	#9
Chokets Endless Knights Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: NOVA Posts: 231 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	apparently there's some kind of height regulation in japan, it's a measurer for that height, like from your cat to the ground... i believe it's the standard size of a speed bump in japan, like 80mm, right? __________________ K.A.H. -so then i tell'er "yeah, honey, you're on the list, but i moved you way to the bottom!"

07-14-2003, 02:13 AM	#2
drift into a curb Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Seoul, South Korea Posts: 2,870 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	http://www.tein.com/ti/inst/yn20u.pdf Does the installation manual cover it?

07-14-2003, 02:40 AM	#3
kuroi s14 Leaky Injector Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 130 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	If your refering to the long L shaped plastic peice that says Tein on it, that's just to make sure that you have enough legal ground clearance. Remember In Japan they have to go thru Shaken which is somewhat like smog test but more elaborate, some pretty tuff standards. I think no less than 9 inches will pass

07-14-2003, 02:32 PM	#7
MorganS13 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Midwest Posts: 707 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	sell it on ebay as a "JDM ride height monitor"

07-14-2003, 03:58 PM	#8
charlie@justdrift Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Porter Ranch Posts: 1,326 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	> I recommend to set up your TypeHE. Please check below. > > Ride height (Hub center to femder) > Front : around 320mm > Rear : around 315mm > > Damping force set up (Click No.) > Front : Depending your feeling. > Rear : Depending your feeling. > But...you should start up at No. 8 front & 8rear. > and then ,You got a some feeling and something you want, > Please turning click knob & change click setup. > > Click setup is... > > Full colockwise is No.0, It's hardest setup. > Turn back to Unclockwise setup are going softer.

07-15-2003, 01:46 PM	#11
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	my car was so low my frame rail hit the speed bump. NOT COOL hahaha.. fixed that. ill measure where its at now, everything seems to clear except steep driveways..but that's always gonig to be an issue unless you are stock height...and sometimes need to be higher then that too. __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

07-15-2003, 02:23 PM	#14
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	mine is low too but not horrible its mean to scrape. its a warnign it is more for comedy scraping lip, clunking and skipping rear tires (from LSD) makes people give me dirty and WTF looks in parking lots best is when the tire sqeels i get lots of dirty looks for parents with kids walking thru the lot good times now imagine sideskirts on that soon hahaha edit: from center of wheel well (fender) to ground front is 61.5 cm rear is 60.5 cm yes i know front is slightly higher up. but 1cm is not much. weight shift to rear this is with 205/55/15 tires __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira Last edited by Dousan_PG; 07-15-2003 at 02:31 PM..

07-15-2003, 03:06 PM	#15
nokeone on strike three. Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Santa Cruz, California Age: 46 Posts: 3,282 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeah i might have to raise mine up a little bit..just to be safe..we'll see..i'll measure when i get home.... also what do you set your Teins at damper wise for normal driving?..uhh we'll say 0 being softest and 16 being stiffest (arbitrary values).. hey when you comin back up north?..there is a pretty fun small time event on August 3rd in Monterey, well Marina to be exact (it's like 25 min from Santa Cruz), if you wanna get a tiny bit of warm up in before Buttonwillow.. __________________ panda; rockin your socks from the Bay to LA to SD, yay! Pink GodziRa

07-15-2003, 03:10 PM	#16
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	aug 3...hmm i'll chck my schedule. for now im maybe but that might be yes if i find out im free that weekend!! thanks! (can i drift there?) hehe... my Teins were at 8 clicks in from hardest daily drive..sometimes 10. i dont like it too soft. i like to haul around corners so low damper=sot springs is just annoying. __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

07-15-2003, 03:37 PM	#18
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	nice. yeah i should be free __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

07-15-2003, 03:57 PM	#20
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	aug 3 is 3 weeks away...ur car going to swim over here? __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

07-15-2003, 04:21 PM	#22
nokeone on strike three. Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Santa Cruz, California Age: 46 Posts: 3,282 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	hahah...swim..i like that....lol there should be another one in September though... so maybe you can come to that one if your car will be here by then..it is definately the more the merrier..within reason of course..and assuming the people are cool..lol..but any friend of Dousan's............ ok, yes i'm a nooob...but i have to ask..Touge = Grip __________________ panda; rockin your socks from the Bay to LA to SD, yay! Pink GodziRa

07-15-2003, 04:39 PM	#25
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	cool dorifto. check your pm on FA cb radios rock has anyone lowered their coilovers to the ground yet? hahaha..i want to try that one day __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

07-15-2003, 07:29 PM	#27
boro240 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Tucson, AZ Age: 40 Posts: 1,324 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	touge also can refer to the apex of a corner, or difficult part.

07-17-2003, 01:31 PM	#28
Stee Flo Endless Knights Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NoVa Age: 46 Posts: 528 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I had a question about adjusting the camber on the HE. I adjusted the front camber today and im not certain how much i did it. There are ruler lines on the top of the camber plate and i put it to the fourth mark. Does each marking measure in 0.5 degree increments or is it measured in 1 degree increments? If its .5 then i have it a -2 camber. __________________

07-17-2003, 01:35 PM	#29
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	i dont think its meant to be degrees. i think its for accuracy on each side. also remember, HEs have a eccentric bolt so make sure you are alerady aligned properly w/ that bolt before playing w/ the camber plates also more camber=toe in. __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

07-17-2003, 01:37 PM	#30
Stee Flo Endless Knights Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NoVa Age: 46 Posts: 528 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	cool thanks. __________________