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xLSTONEx · 07-07-2003, 01:47 PM

I am getting 17X7.5 5Zigen Copse, here is a picture of htem if you don't know what they are. And I am going to go with a 215/45 size tire. Now first of all I want to know what offset would be the best, and also what you think thouse wheels would look like on my car? Pictures of my car in my profile, but my car is now lowered with
Pro-kit springs. So please tell me what you think, and what offset would be right. Thanks

Dousan_PG · 07-07-2003, 01:50 PM

offset is best?
i'd say a mid 20s.

will u get them in that offset?
NO.

haha..
find another wheels
7.5 is pretty pathetic for a 17" anyways

check out the black racing or the typhoons (yes, sadly im recommending typhoons)
both are readily available

xLSTONEx · 07-07-2003, 01:56 PM

Thanks for your comment, what do you think the lowest offset I could get with thouse wheels are? I like typhoons, but they are way to common. And im not looking for anything major thick, b/c I don't do much drag or street racing, I do autocross but not on a hardcore basis. I go to Road Atlanta and rent a race car if I want to do anyhting major. I love my SCCA racing licences.

DoriftoSlut · 07-07-2003, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dousan36
offset is best?
i'd say a mid 20s.

will u get them in that offset?
NO.

haha..
find another wheels
7.5 is pretty pathetic for a 17" anyways

check out the black racing or the typhoons (yes, sadly im recommending typhoons)
both are readily available

HAhaha I agree with dousan. But I would also reccomend getting FN01RCs. 17x9 +15 woo hoo! then Nitekids won't think he is special...

Dousan_PG · 07-07-2003, 02:02 PM

honestly, pass on those POS wheels. no offset made is really 'suitable' for s13/s14s imho

http://forums3.freshalloy.com/ubbthr...b=5&o=&fpart=1

i suggest Kosei K1 if you dont mind 16s
15X7 ET17 SIL K1 RACING
15X7 ET27 SIL K1 RACING
15X7 ET38 SIL K1 RACING
15X7 ET45 SIL K1 RACING
15X8 ET12 SIL K1 RACING
15X8 ET22 SIL K1 RACING
15X8 ET32 SIL K1 RACING
16X7.5 ET12 K1 RACING
16X7.5 ET22 K1 RACING
16X7.5 ET32 K1 RACING
16X7.5 ET43 K1 RACING
16X8.5 ET17 K1 RACING
16X8.5 ET27 K1 RACING
16X8.5 ET37 K1 RACING

or
5Zigen FN01R-C
are cheap!
lots of size choices too!

NiteKids · 07-07-2003, 03:17 PM

I thought he was 4 lug this entire time but I guess not. I can't believe he considred those ****y sizes when he had 5 lug.

Jsquared · 07-07-2003, 06:49 PM

how much are FN01R-C's? i have a different definition of "cheap" than most people

xLSTONEx · 07-07-2003, 08:15 PM

How come nobody bashes people that have 17X8 wheels. Most of them have 225 on thier wheels, but nothing gets bad said about them. A 7.5 can hold 225 or better but every body thinks to think it is a shi_ty tire. WTF?

russian · 07-07-2003, 10:09 PM

5zigen typhoons. (if ur 4 lug)

as for the rest flaming bunch, unless you have potent power to spin 17X9 no ****ing reason to get them. sure, if you car produces well over 300 wrhp, sure, but wtf for you want the 17X9 on an N/a.

clean · 07-25-2003, 11:25 AM

will the 16x7.5 +32 clear coilovers w/ a 225 tire on them? i called tirerack and they told me all they carry in a 4x114.3 is 15x7+38, 16x7.5+32 and +43. so that didnt make me happy. its these or gram lights c

DoriftoSlut · 07-25-2003, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xLSTONEx
How come nobody bashes people that have 17X8 wheels. Most of them have 225 on thier wheels, but nothing gets bad said about them. A 7.5 can hold 225 or better but every body thinks to think it is a shi_ty tire. WTF?

I hate 17x8. It just looks odd. So narrow in comparison to the height. 16x8 looks ok. I dont like 16's except R32 GTR's and P1/K1's. 17 and 18's shoudl be at least 9 inches wide imo. Man, 15x8 or 15x9 rocks too! Like some SSR Reverse Mesh. Daaaaang.

The problem with people's wheel choices is that they go for very inexpensive ugly looking wheels. Like Tenzo R and crap. I mean as much as I do not like knock off parts, I found some rims that are 2 18x9 +24 for $315 shipped to Cali. with 17x9 +24's in the front, you are looking at about $600 something shipped... And check out those sizes... adn these wheels are just plain 5 spoke, nothing stupid or dumb looking. Are they the coolest wheels? No. But I would rather get them than Volk Gramlight 57c in 17x7.5 +32!!! Do you know how nasty that will look? MOST the Volk cars you see in the Ads have wide fenders and 17/18x9 or 10 with the lowest offset available.

Then you like the wheel, see which sizes are inexpensive enough for the average dreamer S13 owner, look at your stock bodied, stock suspension car, and get 17x7 or 7.5 in some high offset, wait 3-4 months for Volk to ship them, and then get disappointed when they come becasue it was not what you were hoping. Seen this happen like 4 times in the last 2 months!!!!

Oh btw, 300+ ps to spin 9 inch wheels? Shiiiiit I guess you never heard of stretched tires. Its all about 215/45/17 on the 17x9 and 225/40/18 on the 18x9.

Dousan_PG · 07-25-2003, 01:06 PM

dorifto you had me at "i hate..."

good speech!

ive always said my preference is

15x7 or WIDER
16x8 or WIDER
17x9 or WIDER

DoriftoSlut · 07-25-2003, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dousan36
dorifto you had me at "i hate..."

good speech!

ive always said my preference is

15x7 or WIDER
16x8 or WIDER
17x9 or WIDER

Yep.

18x9 or WIDER
hehehe.
Ideal would be: 17x9 +15, 18x9.5 +12, 215/40/17, 225/40/18. Oooh! We are going to see that tonight... Woo hoo... vol. 88 they spotlight Itai's car!!

AKADriver · 07-25-2003, 02:08 PM

17x7.5 is fine... put a 215 or 225/45-17 on it and be happy. I would. I'd prefer a 17x8, but we can't have everything, if that's the style you want.

Look for +30ish offset so that any suspension you might choose still fits. Lower offsets = flush, but also = increased scrub radius. That's not necessarily bad, but you should have an idea of what it means before you start experimenting.

Tire stretch and very low offsets are the sort of things like tire size stagger that I don't recommend to anyone unless they know WHY they want it. dousan and Dorifto know what they want out of a wheel/tire combo. You might not be so sure. That's fine. That's why you're asking.

There is no ideal for every application. But there are certain "split the difference" setups that I'll recommend to people that aren't tech nerds or track whores. 17x8 +30 with a 225/45 on all four corners is one of them. It's a great all-around setup. Tire stores won't scoff at mounting them. You won't find yourself with new wonky handling characteristics - just more grip. It'll clear any aftermarket suspension. It won't offer the response that a hardcore drifter wants, it won't offer the traction that a hardcore drag racer wants, it won't offer the lightness and ultimate grip that a road racer wants... but it'll be an immense improvement over stock in all those categories!

Mad horsepower isn't a necessity for wide wheels. You will feel the improvement in cornering grip with a wide tire, or the improvement in response with a stretched tire.

NiteKids · 07-25-2003, 02:14 PM

mmmm I could go for some pizza

DoriftoSlut · 07-25-2003, 02:15 PM

Shiiiiiiiiiiit.
:clapclapclapclapclapclapclapclap:
EDIT: My reply was for AKA, not Nitekids... Henry-is taht your programmed response no matter what anyone explains? You are like at the end of the Batman movie with the Joker and Michael Keaton as Batman. When the Joker falls off the church and he's got that little laughing box that wont shut up... "Pizza cutter, pizza cutter, pizza cutter, pizza cutter, pizza cutter, pizza cutter, pizza cutter..." Fade to Black. Roll credits...

AKADriver · 07-25-2003, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dorifto180sx
Shiiiiiiiiiiit.
:clapclapclapclapclapclapclapclap:

Thank you, Thank you, I'll be here all night.

*SaintlyCharBoy* · 07-25-2003, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dorifto180sx
Shiiiiiiiiiiit.
"Pizza cutter, pizza cutter, pizza cutter, pizza cutter, pizza cutter, pizza cutter, pizza cutter..." Fade to Black. Roll credits...

thank you! I'm not the only one...

xLSTONEx · 07-25-2003, 02:56 PM

Thank you AKA, you actually help instead of bash. I hate people like that, they need to grow up. We are here to ask and learn questions, not to say you shouldn't do that because I don't like it. Thanks.

Dousan_PG · 07-25-2003, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by xLSTONEx
Thank you AKA, you actually help instead of bash. I hate people like that, they need to grow up. We are here to ask and learn questions, not to say you shouldn't do that because I don't like it. Thanks.

quit being such a baby
booo hooo

i cant think for myself or do some research as to what wheels fit. i need to have someone hold my hand to help me find wheels for MY car. wah wah wah.

DuffMan · 07-25-2003, 07:36 PM

Sigh.

Before recommending stretched tires, why don't you at least ASK him what his car is going to be used for.

I agree about the FN01R-C's though. Great wheel for the price. If you are blessed with the holy 5th lug.

07-07-2003, 01:47 PM	#1
xLSTONEx BANNED Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Kennesaw, GA Age: 39 Posts: 390 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I am getting new wheels, I need your help/opinion. I am getting 17X7.5 5Zigen Copse, here is a picture of htem if you don't know what they are. And I am going to go with a 215/45 size tire. Now first of all I want to know what offset would be the best, and also what you think thouse wheels would look like on my car? Pictures of my car in my profile, but my car is now lowered with Pro-kit springs. So please tell me what you think, and what offset would be right. Thanks

07-07-2003, 01:50 PM	#2
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	offset is best? i'd say a mid 20s. will u get them in that offset? NO. haha.. find another wheels 7.5 is pretty pathetic for a 17" anyways check out the black racing or the typhoons (yes, sadly im recommending typhoons) both are readily available __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

07-07-2003, 02:02 PM	#5
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	honestly, pass on those POS wheels. no offset made is really 'suitable' for s13/s14s imho http://forums3.freshalloy.com/ubbthr...b=5&o=&fpart=1 i suggest Kosei K1 if you dont mind 16s 15X7 ET17 SIL K1 RACING 15X7 ET27 SIL K1 RACING 15X7 ET38 SIL K1 RACING 15X7 ET45 SIL K1 RACING 15X8 ET12 SIL K1 RACING 15X8 ET22 SIL K1 RACING 15X8 ET32 SIL K1 RACING 16X7.5 ET12 K1 RACING 16X7.5 ET22 K1 RACING 16X7.5 ET32 K1 RACING 16X7.5 ET43 K1 RACING 16X8.5 ET17 K1 RACING 16X8.5 ET27 K1 RACING 16X8.5 ET37 K1 RACING or 5Zigen FN01R-C are cheap! lots of size choices too! __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

07-07-2003, 06:49 PM	#7
Jsquared Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC//Charlotte, NC Age: 42 Posts: 503 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	how much are FN01R-C's? i have a different definition of "cheap" than most people __________________ 1992 SR coupe, ~11psi a.k.a. "Zip-Tie" www.carolinanissans.com

07-07-2003, 10:09 PM	#9
russian Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Dallas TX Age: 42 Posts: 1,336 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	5zigen typhoons. (if ur 4 lug) as for the rest flaming bunch, unless you have potent power to spin 17X9 no ****ing reason to get them. sure, if you car produces well over 300 wrhp, sure, but wtf for you want the 17X9 on an N/a. __________________ I must break you.

07-07-2003, 01:56 PM	#3
xLSTONEx BANNED Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Kennesaw, GA Age: 39 Posts: 390 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thanks for your comment, what do you think the lowest offset I could get with thouse wheels are? I like typhoons, but they are way to common. And im not looking for anything major thick, b/c I don't do much drag or street racing, I do autocross but not on a hardcore basis. I go to Road Atlanta and rent a race car if I want to do anyhting major. I love my SCCA racing licences.

07-07-2003, 03:17 PM	#6
NiteKids BANNED Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Socal Posts: 1,223 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I thought he was 4 lug this entire time but I guess not. I can't believe he considred those ****y sizes when he had 5 lug.

07-07-2003, 08:15 PM	#8
xLSTONEx BANNED Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Kennesaw, GA Age: 39 Posts: 390 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	How come nobody bashes people that have 17X8 wheels. Most of them have 225 on thier wheels, but nothing gets bad said about them. A 7.5 can hold 225 or better but every body thinks to think it is a shi_ty tire. WTF?

07-25-2003, 11:25 AM	#10
clean Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: nowhere Age: 44 Posts: 473 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	will the 16x7.5 +32 clear coilovers w/ a 225 tire on them? i called tirerack and they told me all they carry in a 4x114.3 is 15x7+38, 16x7.5+32 and +43. so that didnt make me happy. its these or gram lights c

07-25-2003, 01:06 PM	#12
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 46 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	dorifto you had me at "i hate..." good speech! ive always said my preference is 15x7 or WIDER 16x8 or WIDER 17x9 or WIDER __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

07-25-2003, 02:08 PM	#14
AKADriver Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 43 Posts: 3,517 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	17x7.5 is fine... put a 215 or 225/45-17 on it and be happy. I would. I'd prefer a 17x8, but we can't have everything, if that's the style you want. Look for +30ish offset so that any suspension you might choose still fits. Lower offsets = flush, but also = increased scrub radius. That's not necessarily bad, but you should have an idea of what it means before you start experimenting. Tire stretch and very low offsets are the sort of things like tire size stagger that I don't recommend to anyone unless they know WHY they want it. dousan and Dorifto know what they want out of a wheel/tire combo. You might not be so sure. That's fine. That's why you're asking. There is no ideal for every application. But there are certain "split the difference" setups that I'll recommend to people that aren't tech nerds or track whores. 17x8 +30 with a 225/45 on all four corners is one of them. It's a great all-around setup. Tire stores won't scoff at mounting them. You won't find yourself with new wonky handling characteristics - just more grip. It'll clear any aftermarket suspension. It won't offer the response that a hardcore drifter wants, it won't offer the traction that a hardcore drag racer wants, it won't offer the lightness and ultimate grip that a road racer wants... but it'll be an immense improvement over stock in all those categories! Mad horsepower isn't a necessity for wide wheels. You will feel the improvement in cornering grip with a wide tire, or the improvement in response with a stretched tire.

07-25-2003, 02:14 PM	#15
NiteKids BANNED Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Socal Posts: 1,223 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	mmmm I could go for some pizza

07-25-2003, 02:15 PM	#16
DoriftoSlut Nissanaholic! Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: SoCal and Hawaii Age: 41 Posts: 1,986 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Shiiiiiiiiiiit. :clapclapclapclapclapclapclapclap: EDIT: My reply was for AKA, not Nitekids... Henry-is taht your programmed response no matter what anyone explains? You are like at the end of the Batman movie with the Joker and Michael Keaton as Batman. When the Joker falls off the church and he's got that little laughing box that wont shut up... "Pizza cutter, pizza cutter, pizza cutter, pizza cutter, pizza cutter, pizza cutter, pizza cutter..." Fade to Black. Roll credits... __________________ Death Before Dishonor. www.pinkgodzira.com www.driftalliance.com Last edited by DoriftoSlut; 07-25-2003 at 02:19 PM..

07-25-2003, 02:56 PM	#19
xLSTONEx BANNED Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Kennesaw, GA Age: 39 Posts: 390 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thank you AKA, you actually help instead of bash. I hate people like that, they need to grow up. We are here to ask and learn questions, not to say you shouldn't do that because I don't like it. Thanks.

07-25-2003, 07:36 PM	#21
DuffMan Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: in a cardboard box Posts: 2,517 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Sigh. Before recommending stretched tires, why don't you at least ASK him what his car is going to be used for. I agree about the FN01R-C's though. Great wheel for the price. If you are blessed with the holy 5th lug.