yes another RB vs VG vs CA - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

NME-S14 · 08-16-2009, 03:46 PM

I'm doing this on behalf of a friend looking to swap out his old POS SOHC KA which has seen better days. (I'm personally content with my DOHC KA

) He likes the sound of the a pinned RB and the BOV of the CA and RB. But the originallity of a VG cost and power for the price and all being NA came in as an option. I had said that the CA is a little wimpy next to the RB and the RB with a nice new greddy style intake manifold looks tits next to the VG and CA any day. But he had read that the RB20 has a ceramic turbo and that they have been known to blow up the turbine or something. Keep in mind if I were doing this swap I would be researching the piss out of this but... This is for my buddy that doesn't have internet. If some one would chime in there opinion on these options that would be great. My 2cents went with the RB20 for being the best bang for the buck.

SOME QUICK PRO's AND CON's WOULD BE GREATLY APREACIATED ^^)

:2 c:

kthxbye!

cdvr-s13 · 08-16-2009, 03:48 PM

tell him to get an sr20

**ThatGuy** · 08-16-2009, 03:53 PM

You state that it's ANOTHER one of these threads, yet you still made it.

That not just lazy, it's fucking stupid as well.

You want

worth? Tell your "buddy" that if he can't afford internet, then he needs to stick with a SOHC and be happy. After he saves enough money for a decent connection, he can spend his days doing his own damn research while he saves his money again. It's not like there isn't an overabundance of information on all of this readily available to anyone that isn't completely lazy/stupid.

Have a great day. Kurwelcomebyefucku!

xpertsnowcarver · 08-16-2009, 03:58 PM

lmao! I'll bet its for him too, not his buddy. Nine months of registered here... man..

90240sx · 08-16-2009, 03:58 PM

what are some of the pro's and con's of the RB20?

ranger240 · 08-16-2009, 04:01 PM

the guy doesnt have internet? sounds like hes too poor or too old to be interested in any of the three

that guy should prioritize and call comcast asap..

besides whats the good of having some janky rb swap when you cannot show off on zilvia?

xpertsnowcarver · 08-16-2009, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 90240sx

what are some of the pro's and con's of the RB20?

omg dude... this is your first post??

so... so sad..

mods gonna close this thread cus its just so sad..

kushlivin · 08-16-2009, 04:05 PM

damn zilvia community is so harsh u wonder why so many ppl get banned... if u aint got nothing nice to say say nothing at all

HyperTek · 08-16-2009, 04:06 PM

id go CA18 or sr20.. some people who have RBs usually have them to brag about having a ubber skyline motor. VG would be cool too but i forget if theres clearance issues, esp if its gonna be turbo.

bahhh i live in cali, id rebuild the sohc into a stealth turbo setup

***enkei2k*** · 08-16-2009, 04:14 PM

if your 'buddy' can't afford internet, then he shouldn't be able to afford a car, then he shouldn't be able to afford a swap...etc...

/threadfail

90240sx · 08-16-2009, 04:17 PM

how well does a n/a vg30de fit in a s13?

zenki.life · 08-16-2009, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enkei2k

if your 'buddy' can't afford internet, then he shouldn't be able to afford a car, then he shouldn't be able to afford a swap...etc...

/threadfail

i completely agree

**ThatGuy** · 08-16-2009, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 90240sx

what are some of the pro's and con's of the RB20?

Quote:

Originally Posted by 90240sx

how well does a n/a vg30de fit in a s13?

Kid, stop posting and go Search for the information yourself, instead of continuing to ask stupid questions.

90240sx · 08-16-2009, 04:33 PM

kid? im probally older than you just new to this forum

zenki.life · 08-16-2009, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 90240sx

kid? im probally older than you just new to this forum

well you might as well be a kid then. if your as old as you say its even more sad that you dont know

edit. and your "age" clearly states that you are 19. so how could you possibly be older than him.

stfu!

xpertsnowcarver · 08-16-2009, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 90240sx

kid? im probally older than you just new to this forum

dude... did you just talk back to ThatGuy!? ooohhh no... he's dealt with 10 more years of gravity than you!! could damn near date your mom.

go back to school...

zenki.life · 08-16-2009, 04:39 PM

how could he possible even say that he is older when his age clearly states 19. thatguy has been on this forum half the time you were alive! what now

Nismo240z · 08-16-2009, 04:41 PM

VG is WAY too much work to swap into an s-chasis, for the amount spent you can build more power out of an RB/CA, so that's out of the question, CA's put out about 130whp so unless you want to replace your single slammer with a motor that sounds cool with same hp thats out of the question, so tell him to decide wether to go with an rb or sr.....

90240sx · 08-16-2009, 04:41 PM

no need to be rude!

**ThatGuy** · 08-16-2009, 04:49 PM

You really are an idiot, aren't you?

Go away, lick your wounds. Come back in a few weeks after you've done some research.

Fucking kids these days.

Slammed180 · 08-16-2009, 05:28 PM

I wouldn't do the VG. Ever.
I would not bother with an RB20. RB25 if anything. RB20's have a terrible head design, that wont accommodate a high HP build in the future. If left stock, it's an OK motor, but not something I'd spend my money on.
I would say go with a CA18 for a cheaper swap option. No custom mounts required. Little wiring modifications, and overall a pretty decent motor.
If money isn't too big a deal, there's always an SR20 to consider. Good power, lots of aftermarket support, and it's JDM tyte. Motorsets are often more expensive though, due to popularity.

But seriously, it all comes down to what he wants out of the car. reliability/function/HP/ blah blah blah. Also on what he wants to spend. Source out different motors and see the cost on them, and also look into the aftermarket world for product availability.

That'd be my first step.

08-16-2009, 03:46 PM	#1
NME-S14 Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: OR/Cali boarder Posts: 62 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yes another RB vs VG vs CA I'm doing this on behalf of a friend looking to swap out his old POS SOHC KA which has seen better days. (I'm personally content with my DOHC KA ) He likes the sound of the a pinned RB and the BOV of the CA and RB. But the originallity of a VG cost and power for the price and all being NA came in as an option. I had said that the CA is a little wimpy next to the RB and the RB with a nice new greddy style intake manifold looks tits next to the VG and CA any day. But he had read that the RB20 has a ceramic turbo and that they have been known to blow up the turbine or something. Keep in mind if I were doing this swap I would be researching the piss out of this but... This is for my buddy that doesn't have internet. If some one would chime in there opinion on these options that would be great. My 2cents went with the RB20 for being the best bang for the buck. SOME QUICK PRO's AND CON's WOULD BE GREATLY APREACIATED ^^) :2 c:kthxbye!

08-16-2009, 03:48 PM	#2
cdvr-s13 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: S13-000066 Age: 37 Posts: 107 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	tell him to get an sr20 __________________ SCAMMERS MrFuel sold me a cracked manifold geoff240sx sold me a blown turbo

08-16-2009, 03:53 PM	#3
ThatGuy Admin Asshole Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Retired Age: 45 Posts: 20,394 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ThatGuy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	You state that it's ANOTHER one of these threads, yet you still made it. That not just lazy, it's fucking stupid as well. You want worth? Tell your "buddy" that if he can't afford internet, then he needs to stick with a SOHC and be happy. After he saves enough money for a decent connection, he can spend his days doing his own damn research while he saves his money again. It's not like there isn't an overabundance of information on all of this readily available to anyone that isn't completely lazy/stupid. Have a great day. Kurwelcomebyefucku! __________________ "Speak softly,..." -Pres. Teddy Roosevelt "Be polite, be professional, ..." -Gen. James Mattis

08-16-2009, 03:58 PM	#4
xpertsnowcarver Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: LA, CA Posts: 2,667 Trader Rating: (44) Feedback Score: 44 reviews	lmao! I'll bet its for him too, not his buddy. Nine months of registered here... man.. __________________ My YouTube Channel

08-16-2009, 04:06 PM	#9
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,224 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	id go CA18 or sr20.. some people who have RBs usually have them to brag about having a ubber skyline motor. VG would be cool too but i forget if theres clearance issues, esp if its gonna be turbo. bahhh i live in cali, id rebuild the sohc into a stealth turbo setup __________________ Keep it Classy

08-16-2009, 03:58 PM	#5
90240sx Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: brookings oregon Age: 35 Posts: 10 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	what are some of the pro's and con's of the RB20?

08-16-2009, 04:14 PM	#10
*enkei2k* Super Moderator Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: over the river and through the woods Age: 40 Posts: 7,160 Trader Rating: (29) Feedback Score: 29 reviews	if your 'buddy' can't afford internet, then he shouldn't be able to afford a car, then he shouldn't be able to afford a swap...etc... /threadfail __________________ Ask enkei2k xquizitditz

08-16-2009, 04:17 PM	#11
90240sx Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: brookings oregon Age: 35 Posts: 10 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	how well does a n/a vg30de fit in a s13?

08-16-2009, 04:33 PM	#14
90240sx Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: brookings oregon Age: 35 Posts: 10 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	kid? im probally older than you just new to this forum

08-16-2009, 04:41 PM	#18
Nismo240z BANNED Join Date: May 2009 Location: Santa Ana Age: 38 Posts: 150 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	VG is WAY too much work to swap into an s-chasis, for the amount spent you can build more power out of an RB/CA, so that's out of the question, CA's put out about 130whp so unless you want to replace your single slammer with a motor that sounds cool with same hp thats out of the question, so tell him to decide wether to go with an rb or sr.....

08-16-2009, 04:49 PM	#20
ThatGuy Admin Asshole Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Retired Age: 45 Posts: 20,394 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ThatGuy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	You really are an idiot, aren't you? Go away, lick your wounds. Come back in a few weeks after you've done some research. Fucking kids these days. __________________ "Speak softly,..." -Pres. Teddy Roosevelt "Be polite, be professional, ..." -Gen. James Mattis

08-16-2009, 05:28 PM	#21
Slammed180 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Calgary, Canada Age: 38 Posts: 1,445 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I wouldn't do the VG. Ever. I would not bother with an RB20. RB25 if anything. RB20's have a terrible head design, that wont accommodate a high HP build in the future. If left stock, it's an OK motor, but not something I'd spend my money on. I would say go with a CA18 for a cheaper swap option. No custom mounts required. Little wiring modifications, and overall a pretty decent motor. If money isn't too big a deal, there's always an SR20 to consider. Good power, lots of aftermarket support, and it's JDM tyte. Motorsets are often more expensive though, due to popularity. But seriously, it all comes down to what he wants out of the car. reliability/function/HP/ blah blah blah. Also on what he wants to spend. Source out different motors and see the cost on them, and also look into the aftermarket world for product availability. That'd be my first step. __________________ Blow me, bitches.