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airhead · 08-20-2009, 11:02 PM

[QUOTE=singlecamslam;2945239]Ok so i went to look at the car today and the rack was centered right on. I took pictures:
heres the pictures showing that its centered or close to it.

remove the stock thread locker washer

singlecamslam · 08-20-2009, 11:07 PM

I did, it doesnt do anything, i just forgot to take it off.

singlecamslam · 08-23-2009, 03:42 PM

So should i replace the rack and crossmember and see what happends?

singlecamslam · 09-04-2009, 05:26 PM

Bump, found this little read, passanger side tie rod is longer Technical Articles: 240sx low-buck steering rack angle modification

Could this be a problem? Running out of ideas here, still need to try a new rack, not sure if i should get a new cross member yet.

***FaLKoN240*** · 09-04-2009, 06:45 PM

I have never heard of the tie rods being different lengths, nor did I have this problem when I installed them on my car.

mestizo · 09-04-2009, 08:44 PM

If the inner tie rods have the same part number then they are the same length. My Qsten Z32 inner rods which came from SPL had the same part number and were the same length.

*wangan_cruiser* · 09-04-2009, 08:50 PM

never had a problem too installing my spl v2 inner tie rods.

good luck with the fix

singlecamslam · 09-04-2009, 09:29 PM

God this is so frustrating. Someone let me borrow a rack.

singlecamslam · 09-30-2009, 05:06 PM

Alright, so i compared my crossmember to a good one, and nothing seems to be out of shape. So the only thing i can think of now is the rack, which i still need to get.

*MELLO*SOS* · 09-30-2009, 05:22 PM

Wow this is super frustrating just reading, glad it's not my car.. I have a very similar setup, s13 with s14 lca, s13 b/j and s13 spindle, z32 inners, spl outers, spl tension rods.. But I have never seen the problem you're describing and I can't suggest anything other than the possibility that your inner tie rods are different lengths, or the rack is seriously messed up.

By all means, when you figure this out please update your thread, even if it's some stupid little thing.

Best of luck.

edit: sorry, s13 b/j not 14 lol

Devens240 · 09-30-2009, 11:43 PM

didnt take the time to read all the posts. but your should adjust the tie rods so each end has the same amount of threads showing THEN adjust the wheel.

palmdale_mob · 09-30-2009, 11:54 PM

I just got these in the mail not too long ago and now looking at this thread this install is making me nervous lol

s13silvia123 · 10-01-2009, 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by palmdale_mob

I just got these in the mail not too long ago and now looking at this thread this install is making me nervous lol

the tie rods should be good but you in the other is probably inexperience installing them will probably make a mistake and then learn the next

Chernobyl · 10-01-2009, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by singlecamslam

The car was crubed before the tie rod install, and i had to replace the control arm,

You said earlier you had S14 control arms. Are you sure you didn't replace the damaged one with an S13 arm?

LayNLow · 10-01-2009, 11:53 AM

Oh thats a good one, I didnt even catch that. May be the source of his problem. Check it out then update. I am very interested in the problem at hand.

clark · 10-01-2009, 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chernobyl

You said earlier you had S14 control arms. Are you sure you didn't replace the damaged one with an S13 arm?

i think having an S14 and S13 lca on the same car would make it visually obvious something is wrong given the different lengths...but actually..isn't it only around 5mm..you do make a good point chernobyl.

ayuaddict · 10-01-2009, 02:03 PM

the ball joint would be different.

so the knuckle or whatever wont work with the LCA.

sounds like the rack is just fucked.

singlecamslam · 10-01-2009, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s13silvia123

the tie rods should be good but you in the other is probably inexperience installing them will probably make a mistake and then learn the next

I'm not blaming the tie rods, i know they are good, and installing them is fool proof. Like yuta said i think my rack is tore up, because its all jagged when i try to turn it, and it leaks, i will update when i get a new rack, seems like no one has one.

Edit: i have s14 control arms, ball joints, and spindles, just a basic 5 lug swap.

singlecamslam · 06-22-2010, 05:09 PM

If anyone still cares this problem is fixed, got a used rack and pinion and everything is great. With wheels straight, rack centered, 1 1/2 turns lock to lock with equal tie rod thread. Amen.

negrosx13 · 06-23-2010, 09:17 AM

great to hear man!!

niteridaz503 · 06-23-2010, 10:08 AM

nice to hear man seems like your good to go!!

08-20-2009, 11:02 PM	#31
airhead Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: IE/OC Posts: 1,885 Trader Rating: (32) Feedback Score: 32 reviews	[QUOTE=singlecamslam;2945239]Ok so i went to look at the car today and the rack was centered right on. I took pictures: heres the pictures showing that its centered or close to it. remove the stock thread locker washer __________________

08-20-2009, 11:07 PM	#32
singlecamslam Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Norcal Posts: 2,534 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	I did, it doesnt do anything, i just forgot to take it off. __________________ Nothing says racecar like a stock car with no interior.

08-23-2009, 03:42 PM	#33
singlecamslam Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Norcal Posts: 2,534 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	So should i replace the rack and crossmember and see what happends? __________________ Nothing says racecar like a stock car with no interior.

09-04-2009, 05:26 PM	#34
singlecamslam Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Norcal Posts: 2,534 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Bump, found this little read, passanger side tie rod is longer Technical Articles: 240sx low-buck steering rack angle modification Could this be a problem? Running out of ideas here, still need to try a new rack, not sure if i should get a new cross member yet. __________________ Nothing says racecar like a stock car with no interior.

09-04-2009, 06:45 PM	#35
*FaLKoN240* Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SoCal Temecula Posts: 16,893 Trader Rating: (73) Feedback Score: 73 reviews	I have never heard of the tie rods being different lengths, nor did I have this problem when I installed them on my car. __________________ Best way to do business with me? Make your best offer FIRST.

09-04-2009, 08:44 PM	#36
mestizo Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Sacramento California Posts: 360 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	If the inner tie rods have the same part number then they are the same length. My Qsten Z32 inner rods which came from SPL had the same part number and were the same length. __________________ 92 S13 Coupe Track Car

09-04-2009, 08:50 PM	#37
wangan_cruiser kouki man Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: downtown oakland,ca Age: 40 Posts: 3,539 Trader Rating: (36) Feedback Score: 36 reviews	never had a problem too installing my spl v2 inner tie rods. good luck with the fix

09-04-2009, 09:29 PM	#38
singlecamslam Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Norcal Posts: 2,534 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	God this is so frustrating. Someone let me borrow a rack. __________________ Nothing says racecar like a stock car with no interior.

09-30-2009, 05:06 PM	#39
singlecamslam Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Norcal Posts: 2,534 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Alright, so i compared my crossmember to a good one, and nothing seems to be out of shape. So the only thing i can think of now is the rack, which i still need to get. __________________ Nothing says racecar like a stock car with no interior.

09-30-2009, 05:22 PM	#40
MELLOSOS* LAID OUT Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: LAS VEGAS Age: 43 Posts: 2,015 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: MELLO*SOS Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Wow this is super frustrating just reading, glad it's not my car.. I have a very similar setup, s13 with s14 lca, s13 b/j and s13 spindle, z32 inners, spl outers, spl tension rods.. But I have never seen the problem you're describing and I can't suggest anything other than the possibility that your inner tie rods are different lengths, or the rack is seriously messed up. By all means, when you figure this out please update your thread, even if it's some stupid little thing. Best of luck. edit: sorry, s13 b/j not 14 lol Last edited by MELLOSOS; 10-01-2009 at 01:00 PM..*

09-30-2009, 11:43 PM	#41
Devens240 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Washington Age: 35 Posts: 413 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	didnt take the time to read all the posts. but your should adjust the tie rods so each end has the same amount of threads showing THEN adjust the wheel.

09-30-2009, 11:54 PM	#42
palmdale_mob Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: CA Age: 34 Posts: 825 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	I just got these in the mail not too long ago and now looking at this thread this install is making me nervous lol

10-01-2009, 11:53 AM	#45
LayNLow Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: memphis tn Posts: 346 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Oh thats a good one, I didnt even catch that. May be the source of his problem. Check it out then update. I am very interested in the problem at hand. __________________

10-01-2009, 02:03 PM	#47
ayuaddict Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Socal Age: 36 Posts: 4,017 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	the ball joint would be different. so the knuckle or whatever wont work with the LCA. sounds like the rack is just fucked.

06-22-2010, 05:09 PM	#49
singlecamslam Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Norcal Posts: 2,534 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	If anyone still cares this problem is fixed, got a used rack and pinion and everything is great. With wheels straight, rack centered, 1 1/2 turns lock to lock with equal tie rod thread. Amen. __________________ Nothing says racecar like a stock car with no interior.

06-23-2010, 09:17 AM	#50
negrosx13 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Houston,tx Posts: 948 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	great to hear man!! __________________ MORE BACON STRIPS