s14 butterfly brace

[rb25crazy]

i was lookin at the flyin maita site Flyin' Miata : Chassis : Stiffening : FM butterfly brace

and they have that butterfly brace which looks pretty neat and more clean than a cage but of course probably not as good either. but, yeah i was wondering if a s14 would benefit from this? any ideas or if someone sells this thing and it works =)

[zenki.life]

the same idea as an H brace or even a floor bar for that matter.

i know i did not feel shit when my floor bar was installed.

id suggest working on a different suspension set up with the $400 dollars better spent on something else.

its just one of those items that is bought for the "ooooo neato" factor.

and i believe that you might experience some sort of placebo when it was installed and think the car actually was stiffer.

[rb25crazy]

Originally Posted by zenki.life

the same idea as an H brace or even a floor bar for that matter.

i know i did not feel shit when my floor bar was installed.

id suggest working on a different suspension set up with the $400 dollars better spent on something else.

its just one of those items that is bought for the "ooooo neato" factor.

and i believe that you might experience some sort of placebo when it was installed and think the car actually was stiffer.

oh when u say floor bar, are you referring to the do luck floor bar the one under the s14 rear seats? i was lookin at that but that it looks pricey

[zenki.life]

Originally Posted by rb25crazy

oh when u say floor bar, are you referring to the do luck floor bar the one under the s14 rear seats? i was lookin at that but that it looks pricey

yea. i have one. its just the "ooo neato" factor like i said.

its rare as all shit and yes.....much to expensive.

[clark]

i've personally been looking into bracing myself.

my personal opinion is if you do an X brace to connect the frame rails under your S chassis, i think it WILL make a difference. this is only speculation, however i feel others will agree.

i remember something about S15s having addtional bracing in the tranny tunnel and under there more so than S13s and S14s. i searched quick, i can't remember where i saw pictures of that.

if you want to brace, definitly do fender braces and a nismo power brace. i just made my own nismo power brace, and there are huge benefits.

[rb25crazy]

Originally Posted by clark

i've personally been looking into bracing myself.

my personal opinion is if you do an X brace to connect the frame rails under your S chassis, i think it WILL make a difference. this is only speculation, however i feel others will agree.

i remember something about S15s having addtional bracing in the tranny tunnel and under there more so than S13s and S14s. i searched quick, i can't remember where i saw pictures of that.

if you want to brace, definitly do fender braces and a nismo power brace. i just made my own nismo power brace, and there are huge benefits.

ooohhh i see i see, i just want to get the maximum amount of chassis stiffening and stuff like that without needing a cage. and boltable stuff =) so if i ever wanna sell it of course i can =). i saw that s15 tranny brace before too.

my real question is how would we common folk measure the amount of stiffness increase u know. doubt we'd have the tools to do it though =(

[projectRDM]

There was a Japan company that made a similar piece that was later copied over here, used to see them on Ebay. It bolted into the rails and tied into the front crossmember. It's been a few years sine I've seen anything but a good welder could mock up something quick without having to pay out the ass for ultra rare JDM only parts or their shitty US knockoffs.

[SochBAT]

Do it. Custom, not manufactured.

Chass-stiff + tranny tunnel = not solid.

[ManoNegra]

Friend has the tranny brace, s13
bought decades ago but I forget the brand
IIRC HKS Kansai (sp?) division made bracing products for s-chassis
don't know if they're still available though
also the Nismo 270R came with various chassis bracing pieces worth looking into