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s14vaxlr8 · 02-06-2002, 10:36 PM

well i came across this little civic at the expo tonight while getting gas(green, gs-r rims, body kit), he followed me out, when we pulled up to the light, i just rolled my window down and said "hey you wanna run" he said "how much" at that exact second i thought either 2 things...
1. this guy has no idea about the s14 or
2. he had something i didnt want to know about

lets go with number 2 for shits and giggles
(no bet wagered)
so light green, we roll for bout 10 sec then punch it we cross 2 lights that are green, at this point im saying to myself "why the fuck is this guy next to me still" didnt hear a blow off, i think at the exact moment at top end third we both looked at eachother and then the street, (we kinda did that fast and the furious look, right before the train) and we didnt realize the dip, similtaniously we bottomed out and sparked everywhere, after that i pulled 4th, he slowed down.

i pulled behind a building, first words out of my mouth were "gs-r swap huh"  he said yeah and a couple goodies.  btw he broke his greddy evo exaust loose when he bottomed out . he wanted to run again bc he said his car wasnt warm, i said sure, well he took me the second and third time by about 1-2 car lengths, but i was sputtering for gas too,  respectable run though, then again there is no reason i should have beat him, beings he had the so called "jspec gs-r" (quoted)

sorry so long

cody

nokuntrol · 02-06-2002, 10:41 PM

ahh yes. good post and race. this is a prime example of how we don't alway need to bash on H/A owners.
 well done.

BlankFlip · 02-06-2002, 10:42 PM

i never underestimate a honda here or any car for that matter.

teampulse · 02-06-2002, 10:54 PM

i have driven some civic hatchbackswith b-16 swaps and what not and #### they are fast and will smoke the 240s most of the time. they can be pretty #### quick when they do good stuff to them. good race though

*Grant* · 02-06-2002, 11:24 PM

well said nokuntrol.  those CRX hatchbacks with B16 swaps are not to be messed with either.

rampid360 · 02-06-2002, 11:44 PM

True...on one hand you have a car that has potential to be sickly fast for very cheap.  BUT look at the style factor.  I see my car as an extension of myself.  (I drive a 95 s14)  I mean, 240's are gorgeous cars....There is no way I could drive a CRX...I would hang my head in shame (even if it was a 9 second car) just to be seen rollin in one of those.  Not to mention its FF.  
One day, just to prove my point, i'd like to survey many girls and ask if they would get into a fast crx or a sexy s14

banh mi · 02-07-2002, 01:16 AM

i think any honda with a b-16 swap ain't that impressive...it would still be pretty close...however any honda with a ls vtec conversion we should look out for...

02-07-2002, 09:55 AM

That must have sucked when you hit that dip.

Yeah, that GSR motor will make a Civic fast.

FYI for those who do not know:
J Spec GSR Motor = 180HP/128LBS
US GSR Motor = 170HP/128lbs

thewholefnshow · 02-07-2002, 10:02 AM

Yah, there is a guy with the fugliest honda ever, a base model pinkish crap honda. Hideous, then he pops the hood and you behold a b18c conversion, complete with cai, cams, fuel rail and regulator, ignition, race radiator, and much much more.... spanks everyone, #### he takes wrx's for fun... and then there is the dreaded 1988 gold with a 2000 vr6 modded to the nuts... ah. Sleepers. I love them all.

s14vaxlr8 · 02-07-2002, 11:36 AM

it kinda pissed me off though, because when i asked what he was sellin the car for, because it had a for sale sticker he said " 8,500 for the whole car, 5,500 for the engine", i was was like wtf, i said, "i can prolly get a whole sr installed with fmic for 6 gs"
heres where his knowledge fails.,......he did a thumbs down, my jaw dropped.  i said "are you kidding me, that gotta be one of the best engines i could think of"....he said "Naaa  i got knowledge, thay are shit" the mother fucker SAID THAT.   thats when i knew he was just a rice boy with a swap.   he also said he ran top 13s, not happening bc i was not even a full length behind him top end third..plus i was outa gas..

ne ways,,,,that whole sr quote really mad me mad

cody

s14vaxlr8 · 02-07-2002, 10:16 PM

im still fuckin mad about that, and its been 24 hours

wonton744 · 02-07-2002, 10:32 PM

I think the fastest honda I've seen was an integra gs with an LS vtec engine.  Stupid sleepers.

keepitmovin · 02-07-2002, 10:51 PM

Hate to ask this but what excactly is a ls vtec swap? I think it has something to do with a vtc head or something. Can some one explain?

*LanceS13* · 02-07-2002, 11:14 PM

It's an 'Teg LS block with a VTEC head.

s14vaxlr8 · 02-07-2002, 11:15 PM

isnt the gs-r a b18...or maybe b16

this civic i ran was a b18swap

*LanceS13* · 02-07-2002, 11:16 PM

the GS-R is a B18...all 'Tegs are.
Only Civics have the B16...and  D16.

keepitmovin · 02-07-2002, 11:57 PM

How much hp does the ls vtec swap give? how much is it? difficult? just wondering.....

tnord · 02-08-2002, 12:13 AM

bout 175 maybe?

on a side note, i don't care what anyone says about honda, in general i like them, but i especially would like to have a '01 prelude type sh, pretty sure they put out 195 hp, maybe 205, it was voted best handling car under 30k by car and driver in like 99 er somethin, we had one at work this summer and i took it out for a spin, pretty #### fast

Archangel · 02-08-2002, 01:02 AM

A friend of mine (my roomate) has a decked out Prelude (99), and he's saving up for a turbo for it. Lude's handle very nice, and are smooth fast cars. Good styling too. The 5th gen prelude (97-01) come with about 195 hp at the crank. (about 155 ft-lbs of torque). With all his mods now, he dynoed 178.3 hp (at the wheels) and 141 ft-lbs of torque. Not to mention it has alot of custom body work, and a nice custom paint job. (Here's some pics, and a mod list if ur interested: <a href="http://www.hondaprelude.com/setups/setupsdsply.asp?id=10306" target='_blank'>http://www.hondaprelude.com/setups/setupsdsply.asp?id=10306</a>
His other car is a 94 Ls integra (daily driver). And, you guessed it, ls vtec head swap. Just the swap itself will get about 190hp at the crank. He has intake, header, exhaust, pulleys, intake manifold, VAFC, and an aftermarket ecu. He's probably getting about 240hp at the crank.* You can get a used gs-r head and put it on a ls for about $1500, but you will need all new headers, intake manifold, etc. So realitically, you might as well by aftermarket parts, so it really ends up coming to about $2500+.
Also, bear in mind that all the stock hoses, gaskets, etc will need to be replaced to handle the extra pressure. (Trust me, he learned the hard way <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>)
<a href="http://www22.brinkster.com/coil222/tegspec.html" target='_blank'>http://www22.brinkster.com/coil222/tegspec.html</a>

*This may sound high, but one of the ls motor's weak points is its air flow system, so I H E will get very nice hp gains. He has not dynoed it.

b18c1ek · 02-08-2002, 06:15 PM

B16A = del sol/Si engine
B18A/B = LS engine
B18C1 = GS-R engine
B18C5 = ITR engine
B20B/Z = CR-V engine

....the one to watch out for is the B20 with a VTEC head... ~220+whp and ~160 wtq    ;-)

S14KAT · 02-08-2002, 06:26 PM

The LS Vtec swap is also refered to as the "Frankenstein swap" if I recall correctly.

02-06-2002, 10:36 PM	#1
s14vaxlr8 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: DC Metro Age: 43 Posts: 522 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well i came across this little civic at the expo tonight while getting gas(green, gs-r rims, body kit), he followed me out, when we pulled up to the light, i just rolled my window down and said "hey you wanna run" he said "how much" at that exact second i thought either 2 things... 1. this guy has no idea about the s14 or 2. he had something i didnt want to know about lets go with number 2 for shits and giggles (no bet wagered) so light green, we roll for bout 10 sec then punch it we cross 2 lights that are green, at this point im saying to myself "why the fuck is this guy next to me still" didnt hear a blow off, i think at the exact moment at top end third we both looked at eachother and then the street, (we kinda did that fast and the furious look, right before the train) and we didnt realize the dip, similtaniously we bottomed out and sparked everywhere, after that i pulled 4th, he slowed down. i pulled behind a building, first words out of my mouth were "gs-r swap huh"  he said yeah and a couple goodies.  btw he broke his greddy evo exaust loose when he bottomed out . he wanted to run again bc he said his car wasnt warm, i said sure, well he took me the second and third time by about 1-2 car lengths, but i was sputtering for gas too,  respectable run though, then again there is no reason i should have beat him, beings he had the so called "jspec gs-r" (quoted) sorry so long cody

02-06-2002, 10:41 PM	#2
nokuntrol Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 424 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ahh yes. good post and race. this is a prime example of how we don't alway need to bash on H/A owners.  well done.

02-06-2002, 10:42 PM	#3
BlankFlip Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Future Posts: 1,627 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i never underestimate a honda here or any car for that matter.

02-06-2002, 10:54 PM	#4
teampulse Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: san Diego, CA Age: 42 Posts: 213 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i have driven some civic hatchbackswith b-16 swaps and what not and #### they are fast and will smoke the 240s most of the time. they can be pretty #### quick when they do good stuff to them. good race though

02-06-2002, 11:24 PM	#5
Grant Premium Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: 聖地牙哥 Posts: 2,647 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Grant Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well said nokuntrol.  those CRX hatchbacks with B16 swaps are not to be messed with either.

02-06-2002, 11:44 PM	#6
rampid360 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 328 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	True...on one hand you have a car that has potential to be sickly fast for very cheap.  BUT look at the style factor.  I see my car as an extension of myself.  (I drive a 95 s14)  I mean, 240's are gorgeous cars....There is no way I could drive a CRX...I would hang my head in shame (even if it was a 9 second car) just to be seen rollin in one of those.  Not to mention its FF.   One day, just to prove my point, i'd like to survey many girls and ask if they would get into a fast crx or a sexy s14

02-07-2002, 01:16 AM	#7
banh mi Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 27 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i think any honda with a b-16 swap ain't that impressive...it would still be pretty close...however any honda with a ls vtec conversion we should look out for...

02-07-2002, 09:55 AM	#8
mastalee Guest Posts: n/a	That must have sucked when you hit that dip. Yeah, that GSR motor will make a Civic fast. FYI for those who do not know: J Spec GSR Motor = 180HP/128LBS US GSR Motor = 170HP/128lbs

02-07-2002, 10:02 AM	#9
thewholefnshow Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 672 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yah, there is a guy with the fugliest honda ever, a base model pinkish crap honda. Hideous, then he pops the hood and you behold a b18c conversion, complete with cai, cams, fuel rail and regulator, ignition, race radiator, and much much more.... spanks everyone, #### he takes wrx's for fun... and then there is the dreaded 1988 gold with a 2000 vr6 modded to the nuts... ah. Sleepers. I love them all.

02-07-2002, 11:36 AM	#10
s14vaxlr8 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: DC Metro Age: 43 Posts: 522 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	it kinda pissed me off though, because when i asked what he was sellin the car for, because it had a for sale sticker he said " 8,500 for the whole car, 5,500 for the engine", i was was like wtf, i said, "i can prolly get a whole sr installed with fmic for 6 gs" heres where his knowledge fails.,......he did a thumbs down, my jaw dropped.  i said "are you kidding me, that gotta be one of the best engines i could think of"....he said "Naaa  i got knowledge, thay are shit" the mother fucker SAID THAT.   thats when i knew he was just a rice boy with a swap.   he also said he ran top 13s, not happening bc i was not even a full length behind him top end third..plus i was outa gas.. ne ways,,,,that whole sr quote really mad me mad cody

02-07-2002, 10:16 PM	#11
s14vaxlr8 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: DC Metro Age: 43 Posts: 522 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	im still fuckin mad about that, and its been 24 hours

02-07-2002, 10:32 PM	#12
wonton744 Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 30 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I think the fastest honda I've seen was an integra gs with an LS vtec engine.  Stupid sleepers.

02-07-2002, 10:51 PM	#13
keepitmovin Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: so cal Posts: 299 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Hate to ask this but what excactly is a ls vtec swap? I think it has something to do with a vtc head or something. Can some one explain?

02-07-2002, 11:14 PM	#14
LanceS13 AutoX Junkie Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: MS Age: 43 Posts: 2,044 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	It's an 'Teg LS block with a VTEC head.

02-07-2002, 11:15 PM	#15
s14vaxlr8 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: DC Metro Age: 43 Posts: 522 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	isnt the gs-r a b18...or maybe b16 this civic i ran was a b18swap

02-07-2002, 11:16 PM	#16
LanceS13 AutoX Junkie Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: MS Age: 43 Posts: 2,044 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	the GS-R is a B18...all 'Tegs are. Only Civics have the B16...and  D16.

02-07-2002, 11:57 PM	#17
keepitmovin Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: so cal Posts: 299 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	How much hp does the ls vtec swap give? how much is it? difficult? just wondering.....

02-08-2002, 12:13 AM	#18
tnord Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,975 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	bout 175 maybe? on a side note, i don't care what anyone says about honda, in general i like them, but i especially would like to have a '01 prelude type sh, pretty sure they put out 195 hp, maybe 205, it was voted best handling car under 30k by car and driver in like 99 er somethin, we had one at work this summer and i took it out for a spin, pretty #### fast

02-08-2002, 01:02 AM	#19
Archangel Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 425 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	A friend of mine (my roomate) has a decked out Prelude (99), and he's saving up for a turbo for it. Lude's handle very nice, and are smooth fast cars. Good styling too. The 5th gen prelude (97-01) come with about 195 hp at the crank. (about 155 ft-lbs of torque). With all his mods now, he dynoed 178.3 hp (at the wheels) and 141 ft-lbs of torque. Not to mention it has alot of custom body work, and a nice custom paint job. (Here's some pics, and a mod list if ur interested: <a href="http://www.hondaprelude.com/setups/setupsdsply.asp?id=10306" target='_blank'>http://www.hondaprelude.com/setups/setupsdsply.asp?id=10306</a> His other car is a 94 Ls integra (daily driver). And, you guessed it, ls vtec head swap. Just the swap itself will get about 190hp at the crank. He has intake, header, exhaust, pulleys, intake manifold, VAFC, and an aftermarket ecu. He's probably getting about 240hp at the crank.* You can get a used gs-r head and put it on a ls for about $1500, but you will need all new headers, intake manifold, etc. So realitically, you might as well by aftermarket parts, so it really ends up coming to about $2500+. Also, bear in mind that all the stock hoses, gaskets, etc will need to be replaced to handle the extra pressure. (Trust me, he learned the hard way <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>) <a href="http://www22.brinkster.com/coil222/tegspec.html" target='_blank'>http://www22.brinkster.com/coil222/tegspec.html</a> *This may sound high, but one of the ls motor's weak points is its air flow system, so I H E will get very nice hp gains. He has not dynoed it.

02-08-2002, 06:15 PM	#20
b18c1ek Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: SoCal Posts: 146 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	B16A = del sol/Si engine B18A/B = LS engine B18C1 = GS-R engine B18C5 = ITR engine B20B/Z = CR-V engine ....the one to watch out for is the B20 with a VTEC head... ~220+whp and ~160 wtq    ;-)

02-08-2002, 06:26 PM	#21
S14KAT Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 123 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The LS Vtec swap is also refered to as the "Frankenstein swap" if I recall correctly.