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Old 05-27-2010, 04:30 PM   #31
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make sure you wear both your shoes not just one when you eye ball the timing,This could throw it off.
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Old 05-27-2010, 09:17 PM   #32
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ok so, once i adjust the cams, as long as there are 20 links between each mating mark, i should be golden right?

i just don't see how the 2 dark links on the timing chain will line up anymore after i adjust the cams, because they line up right now.
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Old 05-27-2010, 11:59 PM   #33
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if that was true, then the bottom jumped.... an you are jacked... but try it anyways, if that is how your tdc looked like in the picture you posted, that is totally not right
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Old 05-28-2010, 07:07 AM   #34
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ok so, once i adjust the cams, as long as there are 20 links between each mating mark, i should be golden right?

i just don't see how the 2 dark links on the timing chain will line up anymore after i adjust the cams, because they line up right now.

They will. You have to keep turning and turning, or the bottom end jumped, but it doesn't matter, you can keep rotating and rotating and eventually the links will be in the right places.


Be careful.....20 PINS BETWEEN the dots. By pin, I mean the rod that goes through 2 neighboring chain links and hold them together. 20 of THOSE between the mating marks.
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Old 05-28-2010, 12:17 PM   #35
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thanks for the help guys especially you jspaeth, i will have a video on Tuesday of the car RUNNING

gonna fix timing and put in a brand new wire harness, lets hope this is the end it all of problems..
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Old 05-31-2010, 08:39 PM   #36
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ok so i removed the chain tensioner, and the upper chain guide, i managed to get the exhaust side to where it needs to be, but holy shit the intake side would not BUDGE, there just isn't enough room/slack on the intake side, so i just put the exhaust side back to how it was and adjusted my cam gears... i took her for a drive and a HUGE difference, my exhaust sounds a lot better, and no more SURGING

but yeah look, no room


but heres how it sits right now

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Well told you that was the problem, but that is just a band aid adjusting your gear like that.... I would really suggest doing it right.... Remove the cam and the caps and rest the timing.... I really doubt you can adjust it like that and be spot on... Put a timing light on it....
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ok so i removed the chain tensioner, and the upper chain guide, i managed to get the exhaust side to where it needs to be, but holy shit the intake side would not BUDGE, there just isn't enough room/slack on the intake side, so i just put the exhaust side back to how it was and adjusted my cam gears... i took her for a drive and a HUGE difference, my exhaust sounds a lot better, and no more SURGING

but yeah look, no room
Honestly, man, you didn't listen to us. We said to "zero" the adjustable cam sprockets, and do it the right way.....

I would need a picture from eye level with the top of the ehad to count the teeth.

Are you sure the first cylinder is at it's highest point (TDC). If so, it's porbably okay.

It would be good to keep cranking it by hand until the mating marks line up, just as a double check.

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Well told you that was the problem, but that is just a band aid adjusting your gear like that.... I would really suggest doing it right.... Remove the cam and the caps and rest the timing.... I really doubt you can adjust it like that and be spot on... Put a timing light on it....
Timing light doesn't have anything to do with mechanical timing, only ignition timing and CAS-related stuff....
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^^ Oh really? Thats interesting, but yeah, he should really do it the right way.....
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well, this is just a quick fix, like i said, i tried to unloop the timing chain off, that shit would NOT come off, i was able to set the exhaust side to 12 o clock, but holy shit, the intake side would not budge at all, there is no room at all for the chain to come off... so i would have to completely remove the timing chain, so im either going to just order a new front cover, or a new timing chain, so i have motivation to do this whole operation.
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Ghahaha Nice man! Yeah for there is 0 room for movement on the intake side.... You have to remove the caps for sure.... Its easiest if you have a buddy with you....
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