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Old 09-12-2010, 06:43 PM   #1
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what about ROTA???? i thought those came out wayyyyy before Varrstoen (at least for me)

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Rotas have a slight variation at least. Can't really fake the funk with those. Varstoens are a much much closer copy. I mean, when people are trying to pass off Varstoens as the real deal, I'd worry.
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I always see these replicas i remember when i wanted real te37 but I now feel like they are played out thanks to all the knock-offs
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I think it's the right thing to do, if a shop sell both items. But I still don't think knock-off are going to kill the originator. IMO the person who buys "knock-offs" never intended to save an buy the real deal. The people who really want it save every penny and buy the real deal.
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I like the idea.
VeilSide has been doing it for a long time too. Although, that doesn't really matter anymore. lol
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best thing yet. more companies need to do this. i think knockoff wheels are buillshit.
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Old 09-12-2010, 11:33 PM   #9
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It's commonsense, IMO. Of course you don't sell two nearly identical products from different companies but with wildly different price points at the same marketplace. It's an obvious conflict of interest... duh. I'm surprised that it was even necessary to put out a memo.
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Does anyone know someone who personally works at mackin that can get me in touch with someone who isn't going to blow me off? All I want is a set of the black/red carbon center stickers for my authentic rays center caps. They keep telling me I got to spend another 120 dollars for the black centers.

So I have bootleg stickers on my legit caps and it urks the fuck out of me. Even if people still think they're work wheels.
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maybe everyone else is just playing soft ball ?
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It's a reasonably effective approach for honest dealers.
If you can't enforce copyright laws (which may or not be there),
you can at least do this encourage dealers to act in your best interests.

Now whether or not dealers can get away with simple loopholes is another matter.
I suppose it's not impossible to sell the 'fake Volks' under a different name,
but say share the same warehouse & other company resources.
Unless Volk makes surprise audits of dealers' warehouse & offices, it would be difficult to enforce something like this.
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^^^That's a good point. For example, I know some ppl have ordered Rota's thru Discount Tire, even though Rota isn't listed on their website. I wonder if this would include Discount Tire, who sell Rays and Volks? Not really sure if they order Varrstoens, though...
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if you are reading this and you work at a shop that sells both the real deal and the knock off, you are a retard. No common sense.

This makes total sense. good job mackin
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What seriously tripped me out was that i went to their warehouse once, they had 19" replicas with Rays Engineering and MONOBLOCK cast into the wheels. Apparently they had no intention of selling these but i found it kind of scary.
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maybe those where replicas that they where looking over.

Those replica companies just need to make their own wheel design and push their image as a good quality wheel. If i had my own company, i surely wouldnt want a reputation as being a unoriginal copycat.
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I've read the side of a Rota wheel's box and that shit cracks me up.

I'm just sick of the price raise every fucking year with Mackin and now it's really bad.

So yes I really dislike knock off wheels and believe that they Mackin message is right.

Say no to knock offs.

What gets to me are the people who spend money on parts, paint, and then get knock off wheels.

I remember at FD LBC there was a really cool corolla wagon and everything was done legit, but then I looked at the wheels thinking they were watanabes and instead they were rewinds. Just killed the car for me.
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i like my varrstoen rims, even if they are knock off/ one-off's whatever.
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What seriously tripped me out was that i went to their warehouse once, they had 19" replicas with Rays Engineering and MONOBLOCK cast into the wheels. Apparently they had no intention of selling these but i found it kind of scary.
I've seen pictures of those floating around online as well. It's as if they completely copied the design, and then later just went to the drawing board and just erased the lettering on the drawings, lol
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I see a "knock off" revolution happening, and every one is going to start rocking knock-offs. You don't have to aggree but look around, its already in progress, and the interwebs will spread it. Honestly there is nothing wrong with replica's just don't try to pass it off as the real deal.
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They have every right to do this and I think its a smart move.
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I actually like this idea that they are putting in effect.
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Is it bad that Zilvia allows advertising for these Vorstoen guys on this board?

While were on the topic of conflict of interest LOL, the creation of this thread and advertising for them...
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Zilvia has Extreme Dimensions on board as well. Can't say I blame Zilvia, because it needs the support as well. It'd be hard to turn down money in order to stay running you know? And ultimately, the members are the board are the ones that decide whether or not to support the vendor. With that said...
Seems like the CE28 is the next wheel being copied :/
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What gets to me are the people who spend money on parts, paint, and then get knock off wheels.
THIS! And props to Mackin for doing this. I hope a lot more companies take note of this.
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I see a "knock off" revolution happening, and every one is going to start rocking knock-offs. You don't have to aggree but look around, its already in progress, and the interwebs will spread it. Honestly there is nothing wrong with replica's just don't try to pass it off as the real deal.
Well i guess all we can do is not buy knockoff products. I can say i only own authentic wheels, and i think I'll keep it that way.
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Ive yet to buy a "real" set of rims. I rock the oem's as I save for something baller and I'm glad to say I'm not part of the fake rims train. You get what you pay for even if its looks and isn't something that can break.
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Ive yet to buy a "real" set of rims. I rock the oem's as I save for something baller and I'm glad to say I'm not part of the fake rims train. You get what you pay for even if its looks and isn't something that can break.
Congrats to you, Its better to save up and run legit jdm wheels. So tired of seeing mb's/xxr's/mustang reps on nicely done cars. Like other member said it just ruins the whole build for me. I must say though up here in the northwest there has been a slow progression of people starting to rock legit wheels.
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