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SilviaSliderNj · 11-08-2010, 08:40 AM

Figured I'd post up an ask the zilvia world, I have been doing alot of searching an have come up with no luck.

In 94 I know they only made convertables, Did they ever make a factory two tone convertable? white on top, black or gray on bottom I have never seen a two tone vert untill now, picking this car up today or tomarrow. If they did make a factory two tone vert how rare are they? I know the production numbers of 94, but no where did is see two tone...

For 1994:
338 white with federal emissions. (color code 326)
331 red with federal emissions. (color code AG2)
224 red pearl with federal emissions. (color code AH3)
265 black with federal emissions. (color code KH3)
85 white with california emissions. (color code 326)
61 red with california emissions. (color code AG2)
42 red pearl with california emissions. (color code AH3)
46 black with california emissions. (color code KH3

axiomatik · 11-08-2010, 10:53 AM

Not that I know of. Convertibles only came with the chuki bumper, and two-tones were only offered with the pignose bumper. At least in the US. Whether or not Nissan offered convertibles with the Silvia front end and two-tone in Japan, I don't know.

SilviaSliderNj · 11-08-2010, 11:11 AM

car has never been painted talking to the original owner. I have never seen one before, nor have i seen any on the internet. Thats why im stumpd

could this have been a car factory orderd in two tone? Ive only seen coupe with factory two tone.

**ThatGuy** · 11-08-2010, 11:15 AM

That's definitely not OEM.

Perhaps some idiot salesman at the original dealership tried to dish out a "custom" packages or something.

There is no way in HELL that Nissan authorized that though.

Plus, it appears to be a black and white color scheme, also never authorized by Nissan, thus NOT OEM.

SilviaSliderNj · 11-08-2010, 11:22 AM

I been talkin to the owner, he told me this is how he bought the car from nissan, he bought the car at the end of 1994 an has had it ever since.

**ThatGuy** · 11-08-2010, 11:27 AM

Like I said, the dealer might have thought it was "brilliant" marketing or something.

Perhaps it got damaged in shipping, so they had a local bodyshop fix and repaint it on the cheap, and opted for a hideous two-tone that has no bodyline to follow on the front bumper.

It didn't roll off the assembly line looking like that though.

SilviaSliderNj · 11-08-2010, 11:37 AM

thanks for the help, just trying to find out as much as I can, before I buy it, then atleast I have a foot to stand on now when i talk him down on price being they never came two tone.

Flicktitty · 11-08-2010, 11:43 AM

i doubt they woulda done a two tone car. i agree with what "thatguy" said about a dealership "option"

whats with the sticker on the gas door and hte trunk?

SilviaSliderNj · 11-08-2010, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Flicktitty

i doubt they woulda done a two tone car. i agree with what "thatguy" said about a dealership "option"

thats more what i been thinking

whats with the sticker on the gas door and hte trunk?

no clue, ricer sticker 50+ rwhp lol

Going to pickup tomarrow Ill make sure to get some good photos of it

Flicktitty · 11-08-2010, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SilviaSliderNj

no clue, ricer sticker 50+ rwhp lol

Going to pickup tomarrow Ill make sure to get some good photos of it

something seems fishy "original owner" rare 2 tone vert. plus some goofy stickers on the car... something isn't adding up.

SilviaSliderNj · 11-08-2010, 12:01 PM

original owner, car was given to his daughter for a couple years to drive, then she went to college, gave the car back to her father then he park the car in march, guy just deside to sell it since its been sitting, so I guess im in luck for finding it since i already have a 94 vert, 92 rhd coupe,96 zenki,93 coupe could use another one to the collection.

He said, he has the original window stick an all the paper work from buying the car from 94, so i guess i will see tomarrow if hes bullSh*ting me or not.

Pandooski · 11-08-2010, 01:32 PM

2 tone paint only came out 89-92's from my understanding "pignose"

after taht. chuki fronts: coupe, fastbacks or verts never came 2-tone.

ki_JDM_ds · 11-08-2010, 01:44 PM

You should paint the lower portion the factory gold.

SilviaSliderNj · 11-08-2010, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Pandooski

2 tone paint only came out 89-92's from my understanding "pignose"

after taht. chuki fronts: coupe, fastbacks or verts never came 2-tone.

wow noob u can read barely.... but dont know what ur talkin bout if u know 240sx u would know pignose cars were only made in 89-90. 1991 is the the first year of the chuki...

SilviaSliderNj · 11-08-2010, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ki_JDM_ds

You should paint the lower portion the factory gold.

thats pretty nice, maybe if i deside to redo the car over an repaint it.. still debaiting on what I want to do with this one, I think its going to be the new daily driver just to get around town point a-b kinda car

***CrimsonRockett*** · 11-08-2010, 01:55 PM

If the car is from Jersey, I wouldn't doubt if it had rust. Maybe they tried to cover it up by painting the lower section?

But, yeah. That's definitely not factory. Silvia S13's and Pignose S13's came Two-Tone. Nothing else.

SilviaSliderNj · 11-08-2010, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CrimsonRockett

If the car is from Jersey, I wouldn't doubt if it had rust. Maybe they tried to cover it up by painting the lower section?

But, yeah. That's definitely not factory. Silvia S13's and Pignose S13's came Two-Tone. Nothing else.

thank you!

axiomatik · 11-08-2010, 02:54 PM

the picture of the front end makes it painfully obvious that it is not a factory paint job. they got to the front bumper and then just dipped the line down below the turn signal since the chuki bumper has no natural place to have the colors meet.

It may very well have been bought from the original dealer like that, but the two-tone job would have been done by the dealer, not the factory. I think a few hatches left dealer lots with two-tone paint the same way.

Z_Spool · 11-08-2010, 02:54 PM

Another thing to do when you go to look at it is check the oem color code listed in the door jamb. Then you'll at least know how it rolled off the line.

SilviaSliderNj · 11-08-2010, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Z_Spool

Another thing to do when you go to look at it is check the oem color code listed in the door jamb. Then you'll at least know how it rolled off the line.

got that on my check list already.

SilviaSliderNj · 11-10-2010, 06:58 AM

the end to a good story, was going back an forth with the owner on price, the car was running when he parkd it then his gurlfriend must have showd the car off the someone that wanted to buy it they have pulled all the main fueses so the car would not start. Then the owner calld me an said the car wouldnt start an couldnt figure out what it was so i offerd him a really low price he took it. got to work this morning poped open the main fues box under the hood saw all the missing fueses, so i had some extra ones put them in... Car fired right up light a dream, power top works also...just thought everyone would get a kick out of this story..

Matej · 11-10-2010, 07:03 AM

SilviaSliderNj · 11-10-2010, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Matej

thanks you, now seeing the car in person it was painted after the fact. thanks again to everyone that helpd me figure this out

11-08-2010, 08:40 AM	#1
SilviaSliderNj Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Dirty jersey Age: 37 Posts: 578 Trader Rating: (22) Rides Gallery: SilviaSliderNj Feedback Score: 22 reviews	factory two tone color question, Convertable? Figured I'd post up an ask the zilvia world, I have been doing alot of searching an have come up with no luck. In 94 I know they only made convertables, Did they ever make a factory two tone convertable? white on top, black or gray on bottom I have never seen a two tone vert untill now, picking this car up today or tomarrow. If they did make a factory two tone vert how rare are they? I know the production numbers of 94, but no where did is see two tone... For 1994: 338 white with federal emissions. (color code 326) 331 red with federal emissions. (color code AG2) 224 red pearl with federal emissions. (color code AH3) 265 black with federal emissions. (color code KH3) 85 white with california emissions. (color code 326) 61 red with california emissions. (color code AG2) 42 red pearl with california emissions. (color code AH3) 46 black with california emissions. (color code KH3 __________________

11-08-2010, 10:53 AM	#2
axiomatik Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: ATL Posts: 4,702 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Not that I know of. Convertibles only came with the chuki bumper, and two-tones were only offered with the pignose bumper. At least in the US. Whether or not Nissan offered convertibles with the Silvia front end and two-tone in Japan, I don't know. __________________

11-08-2010, 11:11 AM	#3
SilviaSliderNj Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Dirty jersey Age: 37 Posts: 578 Trader Rating: (22) Rides Gallery: SilviaSliderNj Feedback Score: 22 reviews	car has never been painted talking to the original owner. I have never seen one before, nor have i seen any on the internet. Thats why im stumpd could this have been a car factory orderd in two tone? Ive only seen coupe with factory two tone. __________________

11-08-2010, 11:15 AM	#4
ThatGuy Admin Asshole Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Retired Age: 45 Posts: 20,394 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ThatGuy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	That's definitely not OEM. Perhaps some idiot salesman at the original dealership tried to dish out a "custom" packages or something. There is no way in HELL that Nissan authorized that though. Plus, it appears to be a black and white color scheme, also never authorized by Nissan, thus NOT OEM. __________________ "Speak softly,..." -Pres. Teddy Roosevelt "Be polite, be professional, ..." -Gen. James Mattis

11-08-2010, 11:22 AM	#5
SilviaSliderNj Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Dirty jersey Age: 37 Posts: 578 Trader Rating: (22) Rides Gallery: SilviaSliderNj Feedback Score: 22 reviews	I been talkin to the owner, he told me this is how he bought the car from nissan, he bought the car at the end of 1994 an has had it ever since. __________________

11-08-2010, 11:27 AM	#6
ThatGuy Admin Asshole Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Retired Age: 45 Posts: 20,394 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: ThatGuy Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Like I said, the dealer might have thought it was "brilliant" marketing or something. Perhaps it got damaged in shipping, so they had a local bodyshop fix and repaint it on the cheap, and opted for a hideous two-tone that has no bodyline to follow on the front bumper. It didn't roll off the assembly line looking like that though. __________________ "Speak softly,..." -Pres. Teddy Roosevelt "Be polite, be professional, ..." -Gen. James Mattis

11-08-2010, 11:37 AM	#7
SilviaSliderNj Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Dirty jersey Age: 37 Posts: 578 Trader Rating: (22) Rides Gallery: SilviaSliderNj Feedback Score: 22 reviews	thanks for the help, just trying to find out as much as I can, before I buy it, then atleast I have a foot to stand on now when i talk him down on price being they never came two tone. __________________

11-08-2010, 11:43 AM	#8
Flicktitty Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Wisconsin Age: 38 Posts: 3,686 Trader Rating: (13) Feedback Score: 13 reviews	i doubt they woulda done a two tone car. i agree with what "thatguy" said about a dealership "option" whats with the sticker on the gas door and hte trunk? __________________ 2JZ-GTE Swapped S13 Coupe - 1994 Supra Turbo

11-08-2010, 12:01 PM	#11
SilviaSliderNj Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Dirty jersey Age: 37 Posts: 578 Trader Rating: (22) Rides Gallery: SilviaSliderNj Feedback Score: 22 reviews	original owner, car was given to his daughter for a couple years to drive, then she went to college, gave the car back to her father then he park the car in march, guy just deside to sell it since its been sitting, so I guess im in luck for finding it since i already have a 94 vert, 92 rhd coupe,96 zenki,93 coupe could use another one to the collection. He said, he has the original window stick an all the paper work from buying the car from 94, so i guess i will see tomarrow if hes bullSh*ting me or not. __________________

11-08-2010, 01:32 PM	#12
Pandooski BANNED Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: 92704, So. Cal. Posts: 10 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	2 tone paint only came out 89-92's from my understanding "pignose" after taht. chuki fronts: coupe, fastbacks or verts never came 2-tone.

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ki_JDM_ds Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Wichita, Kansas Age: 37 Posts: 1,085 Trader Rating: (56) Feedback Score: 56 reviews	You should paint the lower portion the factory gold. __________________

11-08-2010, 02:54 PM	#18
axiomatik Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: ATL Posts: 4,702 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	the picture of the front end makes it painfully obvious that it is not a factory paint job. they got to the front bumper and then just dipped the line down below the turn signal since the chuki bumper has no natural place to have the colors meet. It may very well have been bought from the original dealer like that, but the two-tone job would have been done by the dealer, not the factory. I think a few hatches left dealer lots with two-tone paint the same way. __________________

11-08-2010, 02:54 PM	#19
Z_Spool Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Highlands Ranch, CO Age: 39 Posts: 1,507 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Another thing to do when you go to look at it is check the oem color code listed in the door jamb. Then you'll at least know how it rolled off the line.

11-10-2010, 06:58 AM	#21
SilviaSliderNj Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Dirty jersey Age: 37 Posts: 578 Trader Rating: (22) Rides Gallery: SilviaSliderNj Feedback Score: 22 reviews	the end to a good story, was going back an forth with the owner on price, the car was running when he parkd it then his gurlfriend must have showd the car off the someone that wanted to buy it they have pulled all the main fueses so the car would not start. Then the owner calld me an said the car wouldnt start an couldnt figure out what it was so i offerd him a really low price he took it. got to work this morning poped open the main fues box under the hood saw all the missing fueses, so i had some extra ones put them in... Car fired right up light a dream, power top works also...just thought everyone would get a kick out of this story.. __________________

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