oil change woes

[smellslikecurry]

hey i drained out my oil and went to take off my filter and its not budgine, i tried almost everything - poked a hole through with a screwdriver and pulled, used 4 different types of filter wrenches, it wont come out, anyone know what to do

[bruinbear714]

Originally Posted by smellslikecurry

hey i drained out my oil and went to take off my filter and its not budgine, i tried almost everything - poked a hole through with a screwdriver and pulled, used 4 different types of filter wrenches, it wont come out, anyone know what to do

Before you mangle the oil filter any more, try using the plier-type oil filter wrench to remove it.

And next time, tell the guy who's doing the oil change to not overtighten the oil filter.

[smellslikecurry]

lol i did use that type of oil filter wrench and it didnt help at all...thanks for the advice though anyone else have any ideas

[zero.counter]

Have you tried the strap wrench with the rubber grip inside? Its $10 from Pep Boys and the grip portion of the wrench has a "SUPERIOR ATTACK!"

[smellslikecurry]

tried that too doesnt work

[zero.counter]

What about spraying some PB Blast all around the filter's mounting. Let it sit, and then try the strap again...

[smellslikecurry]

thanks ill try that now

[NISMO_drift]

fuck that old oil filter. you're not using it again. This happens to me all the time. The angle is wierd so no filter wrenches can get a good enough grip on it. SO.. Grab the biggest channel locks you can find, squeeze the fuck out of the filter and twist it loose. Like i said, you're not reusing it; so who cares if it's mangled.

[smellslikecurry]

haha its mangled to shit i tried everything im gnna try the channel locks and hten im gnna try take the whole oil flange off i hate this fucking filter grrrrr

[kandyflip445]

When you put the new one on put a little oil on the gasket and only hand tighten. Also, make sure all of the old gasket comes off. I think the screwdriver should have worked. Are you by any chance are you weak?lol

[mjjstang]

Hey, yah I was gonna say take the whole oil filter assembly thing off of the engine, and If you still cant get the filter off, or mess the thing up. Ive got one off a 91 ka that ill send you if you pay for shippin. just a last ditch effort thing.

[smellslikecurry]

haha i dont think its a weakness issue- ive had 3 people try it, none of which are weak, they all said theyve never seen anything like it. Anyway ill try tomorrow thanks guys

[crioten]

when you smashed the screwdriver through it, did you use a hammer and hit on it? make sure its a big enough screwdriver...also make sure the engine is cool enough...

damn good reason im buying an oilfilter relocation kit

[smellslikecurry]

im going to try a bigger screwdriver - this one went straight through but u dont think it was thick enough

also the car wasnt on all day and all night so it was pretty cool

im going to try again today

[element240]

did you use a filter wrench that uses a ratchet/filter socket to take the filter off??
those work like a charm if the filter isn't rounded off.

[smellslikecurry]

time to go get a bigger channel lock...

[mellojoe]

yikes

who tightend it? Thats ridiculous.

hand snug/firm (not GRIP IT AND RIP IT) and then another 1/4 to 1/2 turn. Thats all, really. Oh, and put a little bit of oil around the seal of the filter (I usually just dab my finger in the old stuff I just drained and run it around the seal.)

Try one of those cup style oil filter removal things. You can stick a ratchet or a long handled bar. Get some good leverage.

[mellojoe]

oh, hey, you SURE you are turning it in the proper direction, correct? Righty-tighty / Lefty-loosey and all that.

Right hand rule. Stick your thumb in the direction you want the filter to go (out/down) and curl your remaining 4 fingers up. The direction your fingers are pointing (in that around motion) is the direction you should be turning the filter.

Good luck.

[INeedNewTires]

try getting at it from underneath, and if you use any kind of penetrating lube, you have to tap all around where you sprayed with a metal hammer to get it to soak in. thats how PENETRATING lube works, by tapping. also might be the gasket all corroded and stuck, try slipping a razorblade inbetween it, cut it all up, and then try to remove it. but you might have bent the internals of the filter when you crammed that screwdriver through it so you coulda made the job more difficult. good luck!

[smellslikecurry]

finally got the SOB out! Went bought huge ass channel lock then squeezed the hell out of it, first removed all the oil lines in the way...it didnt grip for awhile but after like four or five turns it started moving a little bit, then i took a torch and melted some of it... the stickers lit on fire haha...dumped some baking soda on it and put the fire out. That melt the rubber seal and then i went back to the channel lock and ripped it out...woo thank god... thanks for all the help guys!!!

[citizen]

Go buy a K&N filter should be model HP-2008. it has a nut on the end (1") for easy removal. And it filters better than crap fram or anything like that.