How are modded 240s tuned? I never see a dyno sheet in the for sale section.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by SoBay240guy

you are right a DYNO sheet/pull should come with any car with more than bolt-ons that is being sold as running, otherwise who knows what kind of basket case you are really getting,,,, it's for sale for a reason right???

You make a dyno sheet sound like a vehicle inspection.

Maybe you should ask to see the Car Fox.

[SoBay240guy]

maybe (obviously) you speak from 0 experience,

If you have a dyno sheet and it has a phone number on it you call and ask for a copy of the file, any reputable shop will provide it with the OP's permission, the file contains all the info you need to verify that no scaling or correction factors are included and the viewing software is usually avail free on the web... the file also contains all logged parameters such as A/F and boost.

You show your lack of actual knowledge every time you post maybe you should lurk more and troll less, all I see from you is misinformation and thought processes that go off half-cocked.

[landins13]

having a dyno showing 300whp isnt going to tell you that the kid like to peg the rev limiter and go into boost in stop and go traffic. If theyre claiming that the car made a certain number and thats the motivation for your purchase then yeah a dyno sheet would be good to see but most of the time with these cars if you are looking at a $8k car its cleaner than it is fast and your buying it because its pretty.

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by SoBay240guy

maybe (obviously) you speak from 0 experience,

If you have a dyno sheet and it has a phone number on it you call and ask for a copy of the file, any reputable shop will provide it with the OP's permission, the file contains all the info you need to verify that no scaling or correction factors are included and the viewing software is usually avail free on the web... the file also contains all logged parameters such as A/F and boost.

You show your lack of actual knowledge every time you post maybe you should lurk more and troll less, all I see from you is misinformation and thought processes that go off half-cocked.

Sounds like your the one running around half-cocked. Out causing a ruckus cause I hurt your buddies feelings.

Once again, your making it sound like a dyno test is going to be some sort of magical guaranty.

As I and others have stated, it's not. It's actually bad advice to tell someone they should expect a dyno sheet. A dyno us not required to properly tune a car.

A track slip will be just as useful.

You want some real advice? Compression check, oil check, vehicle inspection (buyers expense) and search the user name on forums.

When you find 30 threads from Billy240 about his wiring nightmares and they end with "fuck it I'm selling this pos" and his for sale thread is "runs perfect, getting out of the game want to buy a house"...

[simmode1]

^^^Sage advice right thurrr...

[SoBay240guy]

Originally Posted by Corbic

Sounds like your the one running around half-cocked. Out causing a ruckus cause I hurt your buddies feelings.

Once again, your making it sound like a dyno test is going to be some sort of magical guaranty.

As I and others have stated, it's not. It's actually bad advice to tell someone they should expect a dyno sheet. A dyno us not required to properly tune a car.

A track slip will be just as useful.

You want some real advice? Compression check, oil check, vehicle inspection (buyers expense) and search the user name on forums.

When you find 30 threads from Billy240 about his wiring nightmares and they end with "fuck it I'm selling this pos" and his for sale thread is "runs perfect, getting out of the game want to buy a house"...

more of the same from this guy i see...

all of what you listed is called common sense, not advice....

a dyno is required to properly tune a vehicle but we all get that you don't understand how they work, that's fine, you don't get alot obviously...

[drift freaq]

If someone is selling a high ticket i.e. higher priced car with big HP numbers then of course a buyer should desire to see a dyno sheet proving the numbers. One preferably done more recently as well. On the sellers part its actually a really good tool to show justification for your asking price. As I put these parts into in my build to achieve this HP.

As for the comment about Billy240 fucking up his wiring and saying fuck it I am selling it. Well its up to the buyer to have the knowledge to know what they are looking at.

Indeed a car could have a great engine with great numbers and a dyno sheet and shit wiring.
Do you buy the car based solely on the dyno sheet? No. Can it be a a important factor in the decision based on taking other things into assessment? Yes.
Do you buy it solely on it looking pretty? Well if you do your an idiot. LOL

Seriously anyone spending big money on a car with a lot of stuff put into it should A: have the knowledge to asses the quality and condition of all components or B: take the car to someone who can do this for them.


All of this comes down to educated purchases. Can a Dyno sheet be useful? Sure, every little thing that gives the buyer info towards their purchase is of value.

Which of course leads to Caveat emptor

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by SoBay240guy

a dyno is required to properly tune a vehicle but we all get that you don't understand how they work, that's fine, you don't get alot obviously...

Ah, I see you have never heard of a "street tune".

[SoBay240guy]

I've heard of unicorns, but no one can give me an imperical measurement of the length or taper of the horn,

have you ever heard of doing things the right way instead of half assing it???

and if you are stupid enough to think Juan has any feeling left you are even stupider than I took you for...

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by SoBay240guy

I've hear of unicorns, but no one can give me an imperical measurement of the length or taper of the horn,

have you ever heard of doing things the right way instead of half assing it???

and if you are stupid enough to think Juan has any feeling left you are even stupider than I took you for...

You earned it.

[ManoNegra]

Originally Posted by SoBay240guy

and if you are stupid enough to think Juan has any feeling left you are even stupider than I took you for...

hey hey hey... that was mean

lol

Corbic - I've never cared enough to point it out but you have a tendency to run
your mouth about things you don't clearly know about or understand.

It's one to thing to be ignorant and happy to remain so
but if you're going to speak like you're an authority don't be surprised if people call you out on your bullshit.

And no, my feelings aren't hurt. I simply pointed you out to a friend so he too could have a laugh.

edit.

really??? U Mad gif is the best you can do?

[SoBay240guy]

you wish i was mad...you're all cute when you can't even retort,

never mind not being able to address any of the actual calling out of your ignorance...go back to the fashion thread where subjective is OK but quit trying to pass off information you don't even have,

[Corbic]

Originally Posted by ManoNegra

really??? U Mad gif is the best you can do?

That's all the effort he deserves at this point.

The fact remains a dyno sheet is not a true indicator of a cars health or condition.

Few car owners will supply one.

You can tune a car on the street. Some would argue it's better as it takes into account real driving conditions. A street tune is just as "safe" as a dyno tune, the benefit of dyno is only your ability to maximize your tune by finding the perfect timing and AFR.

A dyno tune is not $50, a dyno run is closer to $50. There is a difference.

If this us ignorance, great, it's blissful. If I'm standing by my assertions it's because Sobee failed to make any rational or convincing arguments.

He needs to chill the fuck out already.

[SoBay240guy]

Originally Posted by Corbic

the benefit of dyno is only your ability to maximize your tune by finding the perfect timing and AFR.

A dyno tune is not $50, a dyno run is closer to $50.

but you said dyno's are useless for tuning are you confused again sweetheart, if you're gonna be ignorant atleast be consistent

no-one said a tune was $50, you shouldn't have to tune a car at the time of sale, you should only need to provide a logged pull...

[Phlip]

Enough with the damned argument.

OP: if you have any further question on this subject and care to discuss it without the dickswinging contest that ensued in this thread, please feel free to start another.