is this car good?

[Hornlesscow]

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

Paying for a car before you inspect it is always a fucking EXCELLENT IDEA!!! Also, anybody trying to sell something are always honest. They always show you whats wrong with the car and wont fuck you over at all...EVER!!! Car wont have rust since its from PA and I bet since he said then engine rebuilt and blue printed (for no fucking reason at all because blue printed engine are cheap to do when all you need is a rebuild), that this car runs fucking perfect!!! A couple light bulbs burnt out, thats definitely not a big deal. I bet the shitty electrical issue that almost every S13 hatches have a tendency to have when water gets into the tail lights or bad grounds doesnt apply to this car. Also, lowering springs on stock shocks will never ever blow the suspension!!! Lastly, using paint from Advance Auto is legit, they sell the best quality paint anywhere. This car definitely sounds like the best car for you!!!

i appreciate your sarcasm but i will not be paying for the car until i go down next sunday and check it out and besides as long as it runs im fine yeah i might have to invest a grand but im ok with that since almost all the cars i have found were around 3k

i emailed him and this is what he said

Dear hornlesscow,

Sorry I really don't have time to work on it I work 6 days a week. If I were to inspect it I would keep the car. I would have to insure and register it so I'd end up spending a lot to do so. I'd say 200 and you could have it aligned with a machine, two wires hooked up and a tie rod end installed which run $12 on eBay. Thanks

- carbaughautojames

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From: hornlesscow
To: carbaughautojames
Subject: Vehicle condition: hornlesscow sent a message about Nissan : 240SX #300657382517
Sent Date: Feb-05-12 08:37:24 PST

Dear carbaughautojames,

also i have read the description but "should" is very uneasing especially seeing as i have to drive from maine to get the car and i hope it doesn't have any issues since this will be my daily and i know around 2k is no big deal but i have been saving for 2 and a half years and as sad as that sounds i only have around 2k and i plan on going to college next year so i need something reliable and i hope im right when i say this car is great. would you replace the lights and tie rod then get an inspection if i offer to pay on top of the sale price? only if i win that is. and if i do i wont be able to pick it up until next sunday anyway.

oh and im not worried about getting it inspected cuz i could pass it myself if something unimportant is wrong with it as i have a sticker license.

[DJ-of-E]

Is it just me or am I getting a feeling that we're being trolled real badly and real hard.




By the way, I bought my first 240sx for $2800 in 2003...I had $2200 worth of repairs afterwards. FUUUUUUUUU!!!!

[Hornlesscow]

trust me there is no trolling here in fact i have talked to the buyer and hopefully im going down to PA this sunday to pick it up then trust me you will not hear me talking about is this good any more it will be nothing but i juts did this to my ka or check this out or you should try this!!!!

[Kiro1968]

Wow what a rust bucket, not only does it have rust on the quarter panel but rust on the inside panel (floor extension panel), means wheel wells will have rust, the whole rear end, I wouldn't be surprise if the hatch has rust, the floor also, rust on the frame rails, front aprons. You'll have rust under the paint also.

Buy a toyota or a honda for reliability and not have to worry about fixing it at all until your done with college and have a good paying job before picking up a project. You have little money and your going to college, having a project like this you'll be focus on the project and less on class and your studies.

[laurentj23]

I m putting money that this kid will buy the car next sunday and post it fs in her in about a month.

[Hornlesscow]

no it didnt happen and im sorry i posted it here because i have a feeling someone elseon this site bought it(not one of you guys) but the person who did just made an ebay account.

oh and laurent i understand where you are coming from but please dont be so quick to make judgments and this is coming from the most judgmental guy in the world. i assure everyone on this site i am not like every other honduh ricer out there. although i appreciate a nice body kit i dont believe the car should have one untill it can back it up under the hood. and what is so wrong with me buying a car like this??? ever since i was young my 2 favorite cousins who i looked up to were mechanics and knew a thing or 2 about cars and i really wanted to be like them but never had the patience. i really want to get my hands inside of an engine but no one will let me and although i wont right away but getting my own cheap car will allow me to do just that so please look at it from my point of view, a 12 year old dreaming to one day be able to do anything to a car without any help from anyone, but then i turned 16 and my dream died when my dad said the mainecare wont allow us to have more than 2 cars and the only thing i could do was watch my sister enjoy her car while i do minor sound system installations into her car while she is gone then take everything out before she comes back, and now i am going to college and i finally have a chance to get a car(maybe if mainecare finally has a heart about this) and you guys are giving me shit for it. im used to my dad constantly saying saying its too much money even though my car is $7000 less than my sisters car and im the one paying and he saying i will have to pay for this and that even though he payed for my sisters and she never dropped a dime meanwhile im working 6 days a week and going to high school busting my ass to buy my very own car and make my dream come true. so thanks guys thanks for giving me shit. and to those of you who supported me but just not the cars i chose i would really like to say thanks because i am soo glad to see there is some people on this site i am going to get a long with and maybe one day race

[DJ-of-E]

Originally Posted by Hornlesscow

ever since i was young my 2 favorite cousins who i looked up to were mechanics and knew a thing or 2 about cars and i really wanted to be like them but never had the patience.

Honestly, if you could give us the piece of mind that you'll take those two favorite cousins with you to inspect the car. I'm pretty darn freakentastically sure they know the ins and outs of cars better than you and will make a much better sound judgement.

Originally Posted by Hornlesscow

im used to my dad constantly saying saying its too much money even though my car is $7000 less than my sisters car and im the one paying and he saying i will have to pay for this and that even though he payed for my sisters

You're dad's looking out for you. A $9000 is "usually" a much better conditioned car than a $2000 car. Also, don't be deaf about your dad's advice. He lived a god damn long enough to know a car being pain in the ass costs a lot more than nine f***in thousand dollars. I've had my car stalled on a highway before and a big rig nearly reared me...I would've died and my own dad would've see my funeral.

Originally Posted by Hornlesscow

buy my very own car and make my dream come true

I, if not most of us, have been in your shoes before. We didn't give you blatant advice because we're elitists. We actually give a "flying f***" that you do a sensible route when your young

My dream is to buy and tune my 240sx. Done at age 19....what now? If that was all that is to my dream, I would've still worked at Best Buy. I nearly missed studying abroad in Japan because the $$$ spent on the 240sx w/ ka-t. It was worth selling the 240sx w/ ka-t cuz I concentrated better at school and got "plenty" of fun in Japan.

Originally Posted by Hornlesscow

so thanks guys thanks for giving me shit.

You could thank us by using commas, periods, and such in your posts.

Also, there is nothing wrong waiting until after college to get into this hobby. I did and now I drive a 2010 Nissan 370z all paid for and a budget to make a steady project with the 240sx without worrying so damn much about being broke.

[Hornlesscow]

Originally Posted by DJ-of-E

Honestly, if you could give us the piece of mind that you'll take those two favorite cousins with you to inspect the car. I'm pretty darn freakentastically sure they know the ins and outs of cars better than you and will make a much better sound judgement.

i really would like to, but life happens and now those two are a**holes.

Originally Posted by DJ-of-E

You're dad's looking out for you. A $9000 is "usually" a much better conditioned car than a $2000 car. Also, don't be deaf about your dad's advice. He lived a god damn long enough to know a car being pain in the ass costs a lot more than nine f***in thousand dollars. I've had my car stalled on a highway before and a big rig nearly reared me...I would've died and my own dad would've see my funeral.

you would think so wouldn't you, but he wont even help me! The only reason he MIGHT pay for insurance is because i told him if i have to pay, there is no way in hell i can afford college.

Originally Posted by DJ-of-E

I, if not most of us, have been in your shoes before. We didn't give you blatant advice because we're elitists. We actually give a "flying f***" that you do a sensible route when your young

i completely understand, but i have my heart set on a 240 and i would do anything to make it happen. i plan on keeping it stock for a while until i get comfortable in college, and summer vacations.

Originally Posted by DJ-of-E

You could thank us by using commas, periods, and such in your posts.

Also, there is nothing wrong waiting until after college to get into this hobby. I did and now I drive a 2010 Nissan 370z all paid for and a budget to make a steady project with the 240sx without worrying so damn much about being broke.

sorry about my bad grammar, but i type so much that all that stuff just slips my mind. The thing about waiting is right now is the best time for me, because once i start my career in medicine i will have no time to do anything. Now please no one start with "you will be in debt" because i will budget all my money to make things work out for me, and as soon as i buy my car the most i will spend is a grand then its nothing but saving for college, plus i will be working full time at the dealer during summer.

[justinbyrant]

you need to stop paying so much attention to the price of the cars you are looking at, look more at weather they have been modified AT ALL, plus if the car is modified more than like lets say exhaust and an intake, and other little bolt on crap and its less than 3k then as a general rule of thumb something is seriously wrong with it. idealy if you have the money for it a super clean excelent running s13 should run 2500-3000

the most reliable 240 i have ever owned was a bone stock 240sx, bought it with a bad clutch for 1700 and didn't have to put any more money into it other than oil and gas for 2 years, i bought a 89 240 with a dual cam swap less than 3 months after getting rid of my first one and spent 1500 on misc crap that wasn't done right.

plus you need to pay attention to the quality of the parts that are on these cars, ebay coilovers? wtf?!? if they aren't willing to spend extra money on suspension to do it right what makes you think they spent the money on good engine parts and shit? plus the one had a welded diff, you do not want that in a daily, trust me.

and last stop trying to get a turbo car, i don't know how many cars you have owned but it sounds to me like this will be your first real car, trust me you do not under any circumstances need a 200+ hp rwd car as your first car, you will kill yourself or someone else, start with a single cam or dual cam, all you need is some suspension work and diff work and single cams drift just fine, learning to drift in a less powerful car will help your technique anyways, get yourself a stock 89 or 90 single cam 240 and make sure it runs good, work on it being a reliable safe car first, then build your suspension and brake, and only then work on power, don't ever go fast if you cant do it safely with the ability to stop

[Hornlesscow]

i would really love to buy a stock one but as you may know they are pretty hard to find around my area.

[touge_g35]

Originally Posted by Hornlesscow

last thing i need is to be labeled a a rice burner lol.

Even with an 86 and 240 my friends still think that my car is a ricer...but they're not car guys at all so just assume when you go japanese for a race car, it's ricer.
If I don't have god awful over-exaggerated body kits, stripes, fart can mufflers, some spoiler that looks like a gillete shaving blade and lambo doors; then I have a car.

[J90lude]

This post is similar to one of my old post. Anyway, kid let me say this. It would be a lot better to buy a stock 240. Remember real projects are built not bought. Do it the right way kid. Another thing buy a car with your own hard working money instead of family giving you money. You'll just hear them nagging about the situation, 'Oh I paid for this, I paid for that". Believe me you don't want that. Your young, so be patient. I got my first project car at 17, but it took over a year to get it running. Have to have patience kid.

[J90lude]

Originally Posted by DJ-of-E

Is it just me or am I getting a feeling that we're being trolled real badly and real hard.




By the way, I bought my first 240sx for $2800 in 2003...I had $2200 worth of repairs afterwards. FUUUUUUUUU!!!!

Hahaha

[Frank_Jaeger]

I bought my second 240 for $900 a year and a half ago. It runs good and I beat on it. No rust Florida car. At least 210k miles on it. Autotragic.

Maintenance yo.

I'm a poor college kid and if I can do it so can you. Buy a bone stock car, OP. Don't try to get a deal. The price might be worth the parts but you will not have a reliable car.

[jilo]

put it this way, everyone that owns a 240 is telling you to wait. if you asked for the advice and you really needed the input you should take what is said like the word of god. i myself have spent waaay too much money on cars in my life and wish i didnt. a car will always depreciate its value no matter what, buy something stock to drive back and forth and wait untill you KNOW what to do to actually go through with it. 5-9k is a lot of money to waste on a car. if youre buying it because its something you really want riht now, wait a year and see if you still want it that bad. trust me, once you get into college youre priorities are going to change real quick.

i personally get into the same thought process that you seem to. you get something stuck in your head that you dont really need, get your heart set on it, and figure out a way to make it work. trust me from experience on my part, if you have to ask advice and figure out a way to make something work, its not a good idea to go through with. i guarantee you will cause trouble for yourself in the long run. if you are going to school for a career in medicine, by the time you have a bachelors degree youll be able to afford a few of these things a year. trust me, wait and make a correct decision. you dont NEED a 240, you just want one real bad. if you take your time, read, learn and get prepared, the outcome will be far better in the long run. the down side of you uying one of these cars now with limited time, funds, and knowledge could mean you end up with no money and a rusty pile of shit that youre into for thousands. trust me you dont want that, ive gont one in my driveway right now. cars are cool, but in the long run, what do you really NEED a 240 for? if you havent owned one, driven one, or spent serious time wrenching on one, you dont have a real need for one, just a serious want. trust all of us when we tell you that good things come to people who wait. really good things come to people who wait, do their homework, and do things in the proper order.

i think most people here would agree that we'd love to see you wait, learn, graduate, and then build a sweet ass 240 down the road rather than waste your money on an old ass nissan and screw up your future. what matters now is school, concentrate on that and when youre sitting in your dorm, do a shitload of reading on these cars. that way when it comes time to jump into the fire of fixing prolems, and building a car youll be ready to take the bull by the horns.

best of luck to you in your future, which ever way you go.

[Walperstyle]

Hornlesscow,

You obviously made up your mind before you came to this forum, so either jump into it or don't.

Some of us have owned several S-Chassis cars (as well as many others). If you valued some of our opinions, then you would learn to listen.

If you plan on getting a 240sx, and you have a budget of $3500. You literally should have $9000 in the bank for all the un-forseen things that will come up. Trust me.


PS, Don't buy a Caged car for the street. Its actually more dangerous and probably against the law in some states.