stock clutch vs "stage 4" ?

[Purestock240]

looking online for a lightweight flywheel for my ka24e, there is alot of deals on packages of stage 4 clutches and 11lb flywheels

is it worth it getting the clutch or just sticking with the flywheel and saving money?

[R33E8]

It depends if you are stock or making (or plan on making) a lot of hp..

I have a stage 4 clutch.. It's not as bad as everyone makes it out to be once you get used to it.. You need a lot of finesse to slip it for smooth starts and shifts..

[Purestock240]

im not concerned about slippage or anything, just if its lighter than the oem clutch, or a more centered weight.

[nomoremk2]

What are you using the car for? You won't want an unsprung clutch in your daily. It'll get old real fast and you'll eat up flywheels. If you're drifting this car go upgraded clutch, oem flywheel. You want weight behind your clutch kicks. However if you're drag racing the car or just looking for a general improvement I'd look elsewhere before digging into the trans.

[Purestock240]

its an oval track race car with a single cam in it, throw it in whatever gear for the track and go, so it needs to be as light as possible

[Purestock240]

being easy to drive and shifting doesnt matter at all

[nomoremk2]

Then you've already answered your own question. Look at a fidanza for the flywheel, they have replaceable face plates. I'd recommend ACT for the clutch, they make good kits. If you've never driven a solid disk before you should try and find a buddy who has one and check it out. Engagement on a 4 puck unsprung will be ungodly rough.

[WESamiss]

i would never use a product that describes its performance aspect with the word "stage" it makes me think its marketed towards ricer idiots that dont know much about how cars work.

just my honest opinion

[nomoremk2]

Hi Florida

[Purestock240]

still nobody has answered the question,

is the clutch its self any lighter, not the flywheel but the clutch,

[jilo]

i would imagine it would be but not a signifigant amount, the pucks on the end of the clutch still carry decent weight so it may equal out. i would thing a carbon clutch or a very small multi plate clutch would be best for you. i cant remember what they are called but there are small diameter multi plate clutch and flywheel setups for road racing. i take it you want the car to rev as fast as possible and arent concerned with torque loss?

[Purestock240]

Originally Posted by jilo

i would imagine it would be but not a signifigant amount, the pucks on the end of the clutch still carry decent weight so it may equal out. i would thing a carbon clutch or a very small multi plate clutch would be best for you. i cant remember what they are called but there are small diameter multi plate clutch and flywheel setups for road racing. i take it you want the car to rev as fast as possible and arent concerned with torque loss?

pretty much,

the more funded teams in v8 classes run multi disk 5 inch clutches,
however im looking to stay in the $500 range not the $3000 range

[dontxploitme]

i'm pretty damn sure a stage 4 clutch is not gonna be lighter than an oem. i have a stage 3 6 puck clutch and oem feels like slicing butter compared to my clutch.

[AsleepAltima]

i have a "stage 3" 6 puck spec clutch. in all honesty, it seems lighter than the oem clutch, but what does that matter? it has more holding power than the oem - thats what matters to me. also, lightened flywheels are nice, but theyre noisy and sound funny. also, not the best thing for torque.

[Kingtal0n]

Originally Posted by Purestock240

its an oval track race car with a single cam in it, throw it in whatever gear for the track and go, so it needs to be as light as possible

A Aluminum flywheel for the weight reduction aspect would be nice, I dont know anything about Oval track though, so I would only mention this: Aluminum is probably not a good idea if there is alot of slippage going on. I cannot imagine there would be in Oval track, but in drifting for instance, you probably would not want an Aluminum flywheel.

oval track sounds like constant engagement, and a single cam KA sounds like < 150 horsepower. For the sake of cost, I would just use a brand new OEM clutch. The reliability of the OEM part is good, and the fact that you have no torque to throw at it means that it will never slip when you are driving around in an oval.

[Purestock240]

zero slippage