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RanciD · 06-17-2004, 08:03 PM

I need a new clutch slave and master cylinder for my s13. Autozone sells them for $14.99 and $17.99. OEM parts will cost $40 and $86. Would it be worth paying that much extra for the OEM parts? I got those OEM prices off CourtesyNissan.com but I'd imagine prices would be similar at dealerships here (and if not I could just order them on courtesynissan).

Thanks.

kandyflip445 · 06-18-2004, 04:53 AM

I think the ones from Autozone might be remanufactured. Ask them at the counter. The OEM will be new.

rrobe99999 · 06-18-2004, 06:43 AM

I wouldn't pay $40 for a slave cylinder. Generic parts will work. You need OEM for critical stuff like oil and fuel filters, alternators, AC parts, engine accessories.

aznpoopy · 06-18-2004, 07:10 AM

another alternative is getting the nissan repair kits... i think its $15 for the m/c repair kit and $6 for the s/c. if u do it yourself, at least u'll know it was remanufactured properly.

uiuc240 · 06-18-2004, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by rrobe99999

I wouldn't pay $40 for a slave cylinder. Generic parts will work. You need OEM for critical stuff like oil and fuel filters, alternators, AC parts, engine accessories.

I have never bought any of that crap OEM. The reman stuff is just fine. Yes, you will occassionally get something that doesn't measure up, but you can get bad OEM parts too. I've never bought an OEM filter...what a rip! And it's inconvenient to get them too! I just mosey into my LAPS and buy some Mobil 1 and a Mobil 1 filter. Works great. Same for the fuel filters. Alternators? You buy OEM ones? Man, send me some of your money. Do you buy OEM brake pads and drive belts too? What about Nissan brake fluid and coolant?

Geesh.

Go buy the cheap parts and send me the money you just saved.

Eric

Bbandit · 06-18-2004, 08:38 AM

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...slave+cylinder

rrobe99999 · 06-18-2004, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by uiuc240

I have never bought any of that crap OEM. The reman stuff is just fine. Yes, you will occassionally get something that doesn't measure up, but you can get bad OEM parts too. I've never bought an OEM filter...what a rip! And it's inconvenient to get them too! I just mosey into my LAPS and buy some Mobil 1 and a Mobil 1 filter. Works great. Same for the fuel filters. Alternators? You buy OEM ones? Man, send me some of your money. Do you buy OEM brake pads and drive belts too? What about Nissan brake fluid and coolant?

Geesh.

Go buy the cheap parts and send me the money you just saved.

Eric

Yes, OEM belts should also be used. Fluids are generic, but I also like Mobile 1 oil. The Mobil 1 oil filter costs more than the OEM but might be a worthwile upgrade. I haven't tried it yet. I get cheap autozone brake pads 'cus I've got the 26mm Z32 rotors up front that tend to warp. I end up replacing the pads before they are worn out 'cus I have to get the the rotors turned. I reccomend aftermarket pads like Metal Matrix if you want ones that last a long time. Autozone alternators are crap. Maybe I've just had bad luck, but the extra money for OEM is worth the labor I save having to repeatedly replace crappy alternators with lifetime guarantees.

old_s13 · 06-18-2004, 10:05 AM

Geesh.

Go buy the cheap parts and send me the money you just saved.

Eric

Or, enjoy using cheap shit and let people use what they want to use. The only items that come from autozone on my s13 would be: starter, alternator, some fluids. I use OEM gaskets, belts, filters, master/slave cylinders, etc etc.. most of the stuff on my car is OEM. Why? Because just about everything you get from autozone and pepboys is absolute trash. My saying is that they come with a "lifetime warranty" because you'll spent a lifetime changing the parts.

OEM baby.. its the way to go. I mean, have you even seen how shitty the aftermarket belts are compared to the OEM ones? They're dry and loud, they suck ass.

AKADriver · 06-18-2004, 10:12 AM

Depends on the aftermarket belts. Dayco belts are the industry standard. My car has Dayco belts, they're quiet and they work great.

old_s13 · 06-18-2004, 03:35 PM

learn...

its ALL about OEM.

so many parts just dont meet, let alone exceed the performance of OEM.

TurDz · 06-18-2004, 03:48 PM

I gotta agree with old_s13 today since I've had a lot of so-so experiences with non-OEM stuff that claims to meet or exceed oem standards as they say. Nissan OEM is pretty good, since all I've had are Nissans. The parts performed as they should and caused no problems, especially in the LONG RUN. many of you may claim to have no probs at all, and that's great. On average though, you can't get much better parts for maintenance than Nissan OEM.

nightwalker · 06-18-2004, 03:50 PM

...unless you've spent years of trial and error figuring out what IS as good as OEM...

I have non-oem slave cylinder and still works fine (w/ many clutch kicks)...($11) but the company that distributes them uses OEM cores, and rebuilds them to better than OEM specs... it didn't come from auto-zone. That's all I can say. YEAH, go support your local small parts shop, they're the ones who will get you good stuff if you want to save money.

old_s13 · 06-18-2004, 06:59 PM

I have non-oem slave cylinder and still works fine (w/ many clutch kicks)...($11) but the company that distributes them uses OEM cores, and rebuilds them to better than OEM specs...

how can it be BETTER than OEM specs? its not science, the slave cylinder is just a single piston that pushes on the clutch fork. SO, is it any different than OEM? if so, how is it better? take both apart and show full comparison pics.

when shopping for master cylinders, i got a chance to compare cheap aftermarket with expensive aftermarket, and then.. with OEM. So, I saw the difference in quality. The cheap one was made very shoddily. The more expensive one was basically a remanufactured OEM unit.. and of course, new OEM is exactly that.

- Mike

AKADriver · 06-18-2004, 07:34 PM

They can use better than OEM quality seals for the rebuild, and match the tolerances tighter between the piston and the bore...

kandyflip445 · 06-18-2004, 10:33 PM

I'm about to get new OEM belts because the ones I bought from Autozone keep stretching and slip all the damn time. Gates belts are awesome belts but they don't have them there. For alternators I'd go with OEM too, my brother has replaced too many on his Lexus with remanufactured ones. For gaskets I would go with OEM for most but Felpro is a really good gasket company and they do make a headgasket for our cars, for that it would probably whatever is easier to get. I don't think anyone uses OEM fluids....I sure don't. For filters I go to boards and ask around to see what is good. Right now I'm using K&N's for Oil and Air and they're workin pretty good.

On a side note for oil filters, some manufactures had FRAM oil filters stock(relabled with the appropriate OEM badge). Would that be better than "cheap" aftermarket stuff? Well, it still depends, they were made in two different factories, and for one reason or another one was better than the other.

TurDz · 06-18-2004, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by kandyflip445

On a side note for oil filters, some manufactures had FRAM oil filters stock(relabled with the appropriate OEM badge). Would that be better than "cheap" aftermarket stuff? Well, it still depends, they were made in two different factories, and for one reason or another one was better than the other.

FRAM is crap. Check on the page below. There is an actual forum for just oil analysis. They're very meticulous about every detail. They gather tests from Blackstone laboratories and prove or disapprove of oil filters.

http://forums.maxima.org/forumdisplay.php?f=70

caution...server may be really slow at times.

RanciD · 06-19-2004, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Bbandit

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...slave+cylinder

Wow.. after reading that thread I think I'm going to order the OEM cylinders. Thanks a lot for the advice everyone.

ledzeppelin240 · 06-19-2004, 03:07 AM

OEM is tubular...Everything on my car is OEM and is working great. Crap oil filters are only good if u change the oil every 900km...Same with crap oil(when i was breaking in the rebuilt engine). I just feel much better with some OEM stuff knowing that there was millions put into it by Nissan. Even thought they somehow manage to make timing chain guides out of plastic at first...

holisticbeatz · 06-19-2004, 03:09 AM

as long as it gets the job done.. OEM or not..

kandyflip445 · 06-19-2004, 05:06 AM

[QUOTE=TurDz]FRAM is crap. QUOTE]

That's what I was saying....not all OEM stuff is good.

Try this forum.http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/...cgi?category=1

06-17-2004, 08:03 PM	#1
RanciD Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Nashville Posts: 375 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	OEM parts worth the price? I need a new clutch slave and master cylinder for my s13. Autozone sells them for $14.99 and $17.99. OEM parts will cost $40 and $86. Would it be worth paying that much extra for the OEM parts? I got those OEM prices off CourtesyNissan.com but I'd imagine prices would be similar at dealerships here (and if not I could just order them on courtesynissan). Thanks. __________________ '92 240SX, '07 G35S 6MT, '09 CBR600RR

06-18-2004, 04:53 AM	#2
kandyflip445 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arden, NC Age: 40 Posts: 4,460 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kandyflip445 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I think the ones from Autozone might be remanufactured. Ask them at the counter. The OEM will be new. __________________ My 240 vBgarage

06-18-2004, 08:38 AM	#6
Bbandit Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Texas and now Jakarta Age: 43 Posts: 2,674 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Bbandit Feedback Score: 0 reviews	http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...slave+cylinder __________________ ==>>TGL GARAGE<<==.. RIP! S13 coupe KA-T @ 0.5 Bar = SOLD! A31 Cefiro + SR = Current

06-18-2004, 03:50 PM	#12
nightwalker Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bay area Age: 46 Posts: 2,146 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	...unless you've spent years of trial and error figuring out what IS as good as OEM... I have non-oem slave cylinder and still works fine (w/ many clutch kicks)...($11) but the company that distributes them uses OEM cores, and rebuilds them to better than OEM specs... it didn't come from auto-zone. That's all I can say. YEAH, go support your local small parts shop, they're the ones who will get you good stuff if you want to save money. __________________ In life, we often cast the line of hope fishing for the best possible opportunity. Sometimes with enough effort, the things we catch are nothing short of amazing.

06-18-2004, 10:33 PM	#15
kandyflip445 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arden, NC Age: 40 Posts: 4,460 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kandyflip445 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I'm about to get new OEM belts because the ones I bought from Autozone keep stretching and slip all the damn time. Gates belts are awesome belts but they don't have them there. For alternators I'd go with OEM too, my brother has replaced too many on his Lexus with remanufactured ones. For gaskets I would go with OEM for most but Felpro is a really good gasket company and they do make a headgasket for our cars, for that it would probably whatever is easier to get. I don't think anyone uses OEM fluids....I sure don't. For filters I go to boards and ask around to see what is good. Right now I'm using K&N's for Oil and Air and they're workin pretty good. On a side note for oil filters, some manufactures had FRAM oil filters stock(relabled with the appropriate OEM badge). Would that be better than "cheap" aftermarket stuff? Well, it still depends, they were made in two different factories, and for one reason or another one was better than the other. __________________ My 240 vBgarage

06-18-2004, 06:43 AM	#3
rrobe99999 Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Destin, Fl Posts: 262 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I wouldn't pay $40 for a slave cylinder. Generic parts will work. You need OEM for critical stuff like oil and fuel filters, alternators, AC parts, engine accessories.

06-18-2004, 07:10 AM	#4
aznpoopy Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New Jersey Age: 44 Posts: 5,013 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	another alternative is getting the nissan repair kits... i think its $15 for the m/c repair kit and $6 for the s/c. if u do it yourself, at least u'll know it was remanufactured properly.

06-18-2004, 10:05 AM	#8
old_s13 BANNED Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Angeles, CA. Posts: 2,824 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Geesh. Go buy the cheap parts and send me the money you just saved. Eric Or, enjoy using cheap shit and let people use what they want to use. The only items that come from autozone on my s13 would be: starter, alternator, some fluids. I use OEM gaskets, belts, filters, master/slave cylinders, etc etc.. most of the stuff on my car is OEM. Why? Because just about everything you get from autozone and pepboys is absolute trash. My saying is that they come with a "lifetime warranty" because you'll spent a lifetime changing the parts. OEM baby.. its the way to go. I mean, have you even seen how shitty the aftermarket belts are compared to the OEM ones? They're dry and loud, they suck ass.

06-18-2004, 10:12 AM	#9
AKADriver Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 43 Posts: 3,517 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Depends on the aftermarket belts. Dayco belts are the industry standard. My car has Dayco belts, they're quiet and they work great.

06-18-2004, 03:35 PM	#10
old_s13 BANNED Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Angeles, CA. Posts: 2,824 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	learn... its ALL about OEM. so many parts just dont meet, let alone exceed the performance of OEM.

06-18-2004, 03:48 PM	#11
TurDz Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 1,618 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I gotta agree with old_s13 today since I've had a lot of so-so experiences with non-OEM stuff that claims to meet or exceed oem standards as they say. Nissan OEM is pretty good, since all I've had are Nissans. The parts performed as they should and caused no problems, especially in the LONG RUN. many of you may claim to have no probs at all, and that's great. On average though, you can't get much better parts for maintenance than Nissan OEM.

06-18-2004, 06:59 PM	#13
old_s13 BANNED Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Angeles, CA. Posts: 2,824 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I have non-oem slave cylinder and still works fine (w/ many clutch kicks)...($11) but the company that distributes them uses OEM cores, and rebuilds them to better than OEM specs... how can it be BETTER than OEM specs? its not science, the slave cylinder is just a single piston that pushes on the clutch fork. SO, is it any different than OEM? if so, how is it better? take both apart and show full comparison pics. when shopping for master cylinders, i got a chance to compare cheap aftermarket with expensive aftermarket, and then.. with OEM. So, I saw the difference in quality. The cheap one was made very shoddily. The more expensive one was basically a remanufactured OEM unit.. and of course, new OEM is exactly that. - Mike

06-18-2004, 07:34 PM	#14
AKADriver Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 43 Posts: 3,517 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	They can use better than OEM quality seals for the rebuild, and match the tolerances tighter between the piston and the bore...

06-19-2004, 03:07 AM	#18
ledzeppelin240 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Sinse Posts: 688 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	OEM is tubular...Everything on my car is OEM and is working great. Crap oil filters are only good if u change the oil every 900km...Same with crap oil(when i was breaking in the rebuilt engine). I just feel much better with some OEM stuff knowing that there was millions put into it by Nissan. Even thought they somehow manage to make timing chain guides out of plastic at first... __________________ Anyway, no drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If we're looking for the source of our troubles, we shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power. Looking for: JDM S13 OEM Sideskirts

06-19-2004, 03:09 AM	#19
holisticbeatz Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2003 Location: CALIFORNIA Posts: 988 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	as long as it gets the job done.. OEM or not.. __________________ Trust and I don't mean GReddy.

06-19-2004, 05:06 AM	#20
kandyflip445 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arden, NC Age: 40 Posts: 4,460 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kandyflip445 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	[QUOTE=TurDz]FRAM is crap. QUOTE] That's what I was saying....not all OEM stuff is good. Try this forum.http://theoildrop.server101.com/cgi/...cgi?category=1 __________________ My 240 vBgarage