Drift entrance techniques/form

[KA240SX808]

although downshifting to first may work. I vote against that for the sake of the first gear Synchro. Our trans don't take first gear downshifts very well. At least for what I've exp. and seen.

[iamtheyi]

Originally Posted by tauntdevil

What gear would you be in once you transitioned for the shack? Sounds like you needed to downshift or setup the turn before hand to let you leave it in higher rpms so you have enough power to get somewhat through the turn.

Also, your friends camera makes the video look like an old 2005 ish video or like the old Drift101 videos. haha

I'm in second gear. I enter third, downshift to second on the first transition. No downshift again. I really don't want to downshift to first. That sounds retarded lol.

I know. Friends camera sucks something terrible when I look at the footage. Didn't realize it was this bad. Probably going to pick up something else soon during the Christmas season. Should've gotten one on Black Friday but meh.

[vibe240]

downshifting into 1st ? not unless you have a limitless supply of transmission

drifting in 3rd gear in a ka is definitly possible , downshift in second then clutch kick till your leg cant do it anymore.

[iamtheyi]

I was also running 70psi in the rear

[KA240SX808]

What size in the Rear?

[iamtheyi]

Running 215/45/17 all around

[vibe240]

with my ka I was running about 45-60 psi depending on the tire size and course. With my sr , 32-45psi with 205-245 r17

[KA240SX808]

You should have no problem with a few clutch kicks if your running 215's @ 70psi.
I did fine on 225's @ 50psi.
Granted not on that track but tight radius turns in 2nd were no problem.

[jtaylor]

If you watch videos or read of drifters with all skill levels, it's all preference about set up. Youtube the drift king. He will have a Toyota 86 and will walk you through techniques. A huge advantage will be the VLSD. A few if you can spare the money, so one can always be getting rebuilt and one on standby and the other getting the life sucked from it. If drifting on the weekends your rear diff will last about 6 months give or take. Everyday about a month. Buy good tires for the front and get some used tires for the rear and go practice. Then when your skills start improving then worry about sway bars, coilovers, strut bars, camber, toe, and so on. Till then just get the basics down.

[whyteboi]

Why do people still mess with VLSD? If you can't afford an actual diff why not just weld yours for close to nothing and then know its locked when you need it, since it's locked all the time.

[h2v7]

^ yea i know at midvale you need like a nice 2way nismo or welded only

[jtaylor]

Using the VLSD is good to try on since they are abundant and pretty good when rebuilt. The Nismo ones are becoming more rare, just the name alone is why the get bought.

[iamtheyi]

Mine is welded... The Drift Bible is incredibly retarded in teaching someone the basics of drifting. He's using footwork and steering that is beyond comprehension to the average driver.

VLSD isn't great for drifting. Doesn't lock hard enough for stock KA.

[jtaylor]

Yeah the drift bible was pretty lame but did have a few good pointers. I dont think the vsld is to bad. just need a few upgrades for the motor and you should be able to break traction.

[zenki 95]

Originally Posted by jtaylor

Yeah the drift bible was pretty lame but did have a few good pointers. I dont think the vsld is to bad. just need a few upgrades for the motor and you should be able to break traction.

Give or take the videos in general, they are informational and you have to see what they are doing. What happens if you continue drifting.... In time you will buy better parts to fit comfort and goals you will require to advance in skill. On the welded diff, I know they are fairly easy to find open for welding. I have one in my s14 and another going into my vert soon. If done right, (I'm a certified welder) they are awesome 100% Lock. I don't worry about the "bomb in my axle" because mine is solid. If all fails I will throw everything away since I can't disassemble it and i completely fused everything for reassurance in reference to just welding the corners. I will post pics if needed.
Love this thread btw

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[Grenade180sx]

For those with VLSD , run a heavy weight gear oil such as 85-140 most VLSD lock up better with them.

i ran Irwindale course(big bank) with a Vlsd and did just fine.

[tauntdevil]

Originally Posted by iamtheyi

I'm in second gear. I enter third, downshift to second on the first transition. No downshift again. I really don't want to downshift to first. That sounds retarded lol.

I know. Friends camera sucks something terrible when I look at the footage. Didn't realize it was this bad. Probably going to pick up something else soon during the Christmas season. Should've gotten one on Black Friday but meh.

I wouldnt recommend downshifting into first. Second is normally where I stay. I normally run 40-50psi in my tires but I also use 205-245 wide tires depending on the track. When you transition for the shed, try clutch kicking it through the transition. That should be able to bring your RPMs up and keep the wheels spinning through that corner. Try it next time you are out. The weight shift should make the wheels spin a little easier and with teh clutch kick, will allow them to slide out more through the drift.

Camera look is interesting. I would keep it.

Originally Posted by iamtheyi

Mine is welded... The Drift Bible is incredibly retarded in teaching someone the basics of drifting. He's using footwork and steering that is beyond comprehension to the average driver.

VLSD isn't great for drifting. Doesn't lock hard enough for stock KA.

The drift bible does do the basics but it also shows a car with 200+ power. They have SR's in their S series cars so they have more power than our 120ish (if lucky) whp KA cars.

[TTnickdizzle]

Originally Posted by Grenade180sx

For those with VLSD , run a heavy weight gear oil such as 85-140 most VLSD lock up better with them.

i ran Irwindale course(big bank) with a Vlsd and did just fine.

Riley i dont think the weight of the oil has anything to do with the VLSD locking up. the VSLD locks up by a viscous silicone oil which is sealed inside the diff itself. that silicone fluid is completely seperate from the 75w 90 or whatever is inside the diff housing. Once the silicone fluid is shot the whole diff is shot. i havent found anyone that replaces the silicone fluid as i believe its an unservicable part.

Hey are you still over a adams? almost finished working out all the issues in the Z and should be out there soon. see you there.

-Nick

[Grenade180sx]

Originally Posted by TTnickdizzle

Riley i dont think the weight of the oil has anything to do with the VLSD locking up. the VSLD locks up by a viscous silicone oil which is sealed inside the diff itself. that silicone fluid is completely seperate from the 75w 90 or whatever is inside the diff housing. Once the silicone fluid is shot the whole diff is shot. i havent found anyone that replaces the silicone fluid as i believe its an unservicable part.

Hey are you still over a adams? almost finished working out all the issues in the Z and should be out there soon. see you there.

-Nick

good to know nick, i still go over there occasionally, i now work over at Falken tire, just let me know when your going again dude and ill swing by!

[Chase_Lovett]

pull the e brake and powover!

[iamtheyi]

Originally Posted by Chase_Lovett

pull the e brake and powover!

you are so fucking original.

[bc.]

Originally Posted by Grenade180sx

For those with VLSD , run a heavy weight gear oil such as 85-140 most VLSD lock up better with them.

i ran Irwindale course(big bank) with a Vlsd and did just fine.

If you really want to refresh a worn VLSD, shim it. I shimmed mine with some factory shims almost as tight as it could go and still being able to assemble it, I locks almost like a 2-way but it is much more drivable than a welded on the street.

This diff will not last forever though, it is not designed to be this tight, but neither will any VLSD...

[Chase_Lovett]

Originally Posted by iamtheyi

you are so fucking original.

haha someone had to say it.

[eDmSiL80]

Hey iamtheyi I met you at the 711 in brea lol. Pretty cool you drift. As for that vid you just have to clutch kick a bit more after transition. Try to keep the revs and wheel speed up and possibly a bit shallower angle. Hmu next time u slide, ill be good once I get my s13.

[vibe240]

So I sold my s14 for a jdm ae86 ... cant wait to see the differance between the 2 cars on the track . I'm putting my sr in the AE .

[KA240SX808]

SR86 is mad fun. Stock SR with a GTS 4.3 Clutch Rear End is ridiculous.

[jasoncanseeoh]

FOR THOSE WITH A VERTICAL (Hydro) EBRAKE:

Do any of you guys have issues like me getting used to the setup?
I have a vertical installed and I'm so used to pulling my stock ebrake and it's horizontal position, my first instinct is to pull down there. We had a few sessions a while ago and whenever I had to pull the ebrake mid-drift, I automatically reached down there opposed to reaching for my hydro.

I understand it may just take some getting used to and whatnot, but it just feels so different compared to the stock one. Pulling back instead of pulling up is just odd and has such a different feel. I know I can just buy a horizontal one, etc. But, I already have this one welded in. I'm doing my best to get used to it, although I just wanted other's opinions.

So for those with a vertical, what did you do to get used to the setup? Was it weird for you at first too?

Any input is appreciated.

[240dream]

Hows this alignment look? this is for my s14 drift car ka-t 300hp with 18x10 225 40 all around

[iamtheyi]

besides the camber up front almost being a full degree off it's alright.

[di-devol]

^Yea, go back and tell them to fix it, and that would be toe out in the rear as well?