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9524tee · 08-06-2004, 04:25 PM

"just venting" i hate my tires ... kumho suck my balls , with your sloppy sidewalls and horrid grip , and your insanely crappy wet traction .

G_Fish240 · 08-06-2004, 04:40 PM

get different ones.

wootwoot · 08-06-2004, 05:30 PM

kumho ecsta's?
if thats what your talking about im impressed by the performance for 45 bucks per tire. what'd ya expect? cheap tires=moderate performance

Gladman · 08-06-2004, 05:43 PM

Good driver can make any tire seem like a good tire, tires are a small portion of handling limits. Ie. Learn how to drive

thx247 · 08-06-2004, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gladman

Good driver can make any tire seem like a good tire, tires are a small portion of handling limits. Ie. Learn how to drive

Negative ghost rider. The pattern is full.

pruto · 08-06-2004, 06:11 PM

45 bucks per tire? what size? geez.

as for good driver can make any tire seem like a good tire... maaaybe. BUT a good set of tires is probably the most important mod, and goes a long way to giving the driver control of the car. bad tire = bad imput and bad response, nevermind the grip, and well, thats not the best condition for anyone to learn on or have fun with. yes, good driver could probably take that handicap and beat the crap out of me with hoosiers or something, BUT learning on shitty tires only makes the learning curve steeper, and prolong the learning process and really piss you off.

Of course, thats the extreme. he is talking about khumos and not junkyard tires. but half the people on this forum thinks kumhos might as well be junkyard tires.

plus, please, this is a forum about 240s and modding them in addition to driving them. You can say that about everything.

you don't need a SR, learn how to drive, you don't need coilovers, learn how to drive. you don't need a 240sx, learn how to drive your mom's camry. you don't need _s_h_i_t_. But in the end, not all of us want to be super awesome drivers, some just want to mod their cars to make driving it a enjoyable experience.

you get my point. yes, you can probably make that age old good driver statement about anything and be correct. but what the hell would be the point to this webforum?

95: you learned your lesson, wear these out, or sell them, buy something else, and never buy kumhos again if you think they suck so bad.

just so that you know, my first set of tires sucked too, i just didn't know any better =)

wootwoot · 08-07-2004, 01:20 AM

235/40-16.
they are on my gti but i dont consider it a bad tire at all for how much i paid. the gti doesnt do much but chill so it doesnt need anything great =)

KOUKI KA-T · 08-07-2004, 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gladman

Good driver can make any tire seem like a good tire, tires are a small portion of handling limits. Ie. Learn how to drive

I think the only person owned in that comment was yourself.

Any way I don't like the Kumho's either, not the worst tire I've ever driven on but one of the cheapest so you kinda get what you pay for. Look into some Es100's, a little pricier but a pretty nice tire that comes in a very wide selection of sizes.

driftmayhem · 08-07-2004, 09:43 AM

the best tires I ever ran were dunlop sp w10's not so great for the weather but great for drifting and hard launches.

Bbandit · 08-07-2004, 10:00 AM

kumho sucks donkey balls...
If you're into autoX or any other motorsport event.... avoid kumhos.
they like to delaminate themselves...

kidinthehall · 08-07-2004, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bbandit

kumho sucks donkey balls...
If you're into autoX or any other motorsport event.... avoid kumhos.
they like to delaminate themselves...

Tell that to everyone winning races on Kumho victoracers.

The "ecsta 712" is a piece of shit though

kidinthehall · 08-07-2004, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gladman

Good driver can make any tire seem like a good tire, tires are a small portion of handling limits. Ie. Learn how to drive

Hi, my name is Gladman, and its amazing my brain possesed enough power to type this post.

citizen · 08-07-2004, 12:19 PM

if you're on a budget falken azenis. if not geforce ta k/d. es100s are ok for street and pussy driving, but for the money azenis is superior. i had some w10s back in the day and liked those also.

kandyflip445 · 08-07-2004, 01:01 PM

Actually, if you had the money, I would go with Bridgestone Potenza S-03 Pole Positions

Gladman · 08-07-2004, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kidinthehall

Hi, my name is Gladman, and its amazing my brain possesed enough power to type this post.

I've seen people at Auto-X that can run all season costco tires, and beat guys running R-comp.

Its all driver.

KA24DESOneThree · 08-07-2004, 11:15 PM

I'd have to see that to believe it. I'd also like to see the suspension setups compared. There's only so much a driver can do, dammit.

Personally, my favorite tires EVER have been Falken Azenis Sports. I hate the Ecsta Supra 712s that are on my dad's M3... horrible tire. I believe I wrote a review here earlier.

orange-grey · 08-07-2004, 11:53 PM

It would help to mention exactly which Kumhos. The MX is a very sticky tire and I know many people that autocross on them. You can't just say Brand X sucks because you got the cheapest ones and were disappointed.

wootwoot · 08-08-2004, 12:20 AM

thats why i assumed the ecsta's. also, dont the falken sports wear extremly quick? i dont mean to jack the thread and all but i dont want to start another as well

**mrmephistopheles** · 08-08-2004, 01:08 AM

i hate your tires too.

kidinthehall · 08-08-2004, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gladman

I've seen people at Auto-X that can run all season costco tires, and beat guys running R-comp.

Its all driver.

Why dont you compare shit that actually makes sense.

same car, same driver, costco tire vs R compound. R compound WILL be faster.

Saying "It's all driver"..........is retarded.

andrave · 08-08-2004, 03:03 PM

switch. I hated most of the tires I use (though bfs touring TA's are excellent rain tires with full tread depth) but I switched to falken azenis sport RT's...
they are 62 dollars each, which is mid range for a 205/50/15 ish tire. I coulda got cheap hancook or kumho or expensive bridgestone, bfg g force, etc...
I just got them though.

08-06-2004, 04:25 PM	#1
9524tee Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Lexington KY Posts: 545 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i hate my tires "just venting" i hate my tires ... kumho suck my balls , with your sloppy sidewalls and horrid grip , and your insanely crappy wet traction .

08-06-2004, 04:40 PM	#2
G_Fish240 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Sacramento Age: 39 Posts: 634 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	get different ones. __________________ Sacramento touge and drift MakotoS13: Spreading BS and being an ass on zilvia since June 2004

08-06-2004, 06:11 PM	#6
pruto Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Los Angeles Age: 43 Posts: 982 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	45 bucks per tire? what size? geez. as for good driver can make any tire seem like a good tire... maaaybe. BUT a good set of tires is probably the most important mod, and goes a long way to giving the driver control of the car. bad tire = bad imput and bad response, nevermind the grip, and well, thats not the best condition for anyone to learn on or have fun with. yes, good driver could probably take that handicap and beat the crap out of me with hoosiers or something, BUT learning on shitty tires only makes the learning curve steeper, and prolong the learning process and really piss you off. Of course, thats the extreme. he is talking about khumos and not junkyard tires. but half the people on this forum thinks kumhos might as well be junkyard tires. plus, please, this is a forum about 240s and modding them in addition to driving them. You can say that about everything. you don't need a SR, learn how to drive, you don't need coilovers, learn how to drive. you don't need a 240sx, learn how to drive your mom's camry. you don't need _s_h_i_t_. But in the end, not all of us want to be super awesome drivers, some just want to mod their cars to make driving it a enjoyable experience. you get my point. yes, you can probably make that age old good driver statement about anything and be correct. but what the hell would be the point to this webforum? 95: you learned your lesson, wear these out, or sell them, buy something else, and never buy kumhos again if you think they suck so bad. just so that you know, my first set of tires sucked too, i just didn't know any better =) __________________ Paul Black and Red

08-07-2004, 10:00 AM	#10
Bbandit Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Texas and now Jakarta Age: 43 Posts: 2,674 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Bbandit Feedback Score: 0 reviews	kumho sucks donkey balls... If you're into autoX or any other motorsport event.... avoid kumhos. they like to delaminate themselves... __________________ ==>>TGL GARAGE<<==.. RIP! S13 coupe KA-T @ 0.5 Bar = SOLD! A31 Cefiro + SR = Current

08-07-2004, 01:01 PM	#14
kandyflip445 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arden, NC Age: 40 Posts: 4,460 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kandyflip445 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Actually, if you had the money, I would go with Bridgestone Potenza S-03 Pole Positions __________________ My 240 vBgarage

08-06-2004, 05:30 PM	#3
wootwoot Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: sarasota florida biatch Age: 39 Posts: 3,850 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	kumho ecsta's? if thats what your talking about im impressed by the performance for 45 bucks per tire. what'd ya expect? cheap tires=moderate performance

08-06-2004, 05:43 PM	#4
Gladman Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Vancouver Age: 39 Posts: 287 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Good driver can make any tire seem like a good tire, tires are a small portion of handling limits. Ie. Learn how to drive

08-07-2004, 01:20 AM	#7
wootwoot Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: sarasota florida biatch Age: 39 Posts: 3,850 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	235/40-16. they are on my gti but i dont consider it a bad tire at all for how much i paid. the gti doesnt do much but chill so it doesnt need anything great =)

08-07-2004, 09:43 AM	#9
driftmayhem Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: texas Age: 42 Posts: 25 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	the best tires I ever ran were dunlop sp w10's not so great for the weather but great for drifting and hard launches.

08-07-2004, 12:19 PM	#13
citizen Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,240 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: citizen Feedback Score: 0 reviews	if you're on a budget falken azenis. if not geforce ta k/d. es100s are ok for street and pussy driving, but for the money azenis is superior. i had some w10s back in the day and liked those also.

08-07-2004, 11:15 PM	#16
KA24DESOneThree Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: SD County SoCal Age: 39 Posts: 2,564 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: KA24DESOneThree Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I'd have to see that to believe it. I'd also like to see the suspension setups compared. There's only so much a driver can do, dammit. Personally, my favorite tires EVER have been Falken Azenis Sports. I hate the Ecsta Supra 712s that are on my dad's M3... horrible tire. I believe I wrote a review here earlier.

08-07-2004, 11:53 PM	#17
orange-grey Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 94 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	It would help to mention exactly which Kumhos. The MX is a very sticky tire and I know many people that autocross on them. You can't just say Brand X sucks because you got the cheapest ones and were disappointed.

08-08-2004, 12:20 AM	#18
wootwoot Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: sarasota florida biatch Age: 39 Posts: 3,850 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thats why i assumed the ecsta's. also, dont the falken sports wear extremly quick? i dont mean to jack the thread and all but i dont want to start another as well

08-08-2004, 01:08 AM	#19
mrmephistopheles Magnanimous Justice Distribution Service Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: BFE Age: 23 Posts: 14,372 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: mrmephistopheles Feedback Score: 9 reviews	i hate your tires too.

08-08-2004, 03:03 PM	#21
andrave BANNED Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Burton WV Posts: 2,350 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	switch. I hated most of the tires I use (though bfs touring TA's are excellent rain tires with full tread depth) but I switched to falken azenis sport RT's... they are 62 dollars each, which is mid range for a 205/50/15 ish tire. I coulda got cheap hancook or kumho or expensive bridgestone, bfg g force, etc... I just got them though.