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drftwerks · 08-30-2004, 10:52 PM

I think it would be a pretty rad (lack of a better word) swap, 240 hp, relaibility, smog legal (more than a sr), and best of all 9,000 RPM Red Line, i mean its of course better than a NA SR, but the s13 (coupe) is probably jsut as light asa S2K so what do you think?

Bryon
(not commercial, lol)

aim - drftwerks

nismo skyline · 08-30-2004, 11:01 PM

the f20c is torqueless, and we all know torque=fun

DRFT · 08-30-2004, 11:17 PM

this has been done already. some dude in texas

RedSuns · 08-30-2004, 11:18 PM

255hp....148ft-lbs

not worth it at all

RedSuns · 08-30-2004, 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DRFT

this has been done already. some dude in texas

i hope you are joking

drftwerks · 08-30-2004, 11:30 PM

ok same tq as twin cam ka, put a sc on it then what?

RedSuns · 08-30-2004, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drftwerks

ok same tq as twin cam ka, put a sc on it then what?

and an s13 SR at 14psi will still move faster....

drftwerks · 08-30-2004, 11:41 PM

haha yea,i dont know i jsut like NA

AKADriver · 08-30-2004, 11:53 PM

The 240SX is too heavy to really make use of the F20C. Considering we weigh about the same as an S2000, the result is... a car that accelerates like an S2000 (good, but not blistering) and handles like a 15 year old car (again, good, but not blistering).

The F20C would BAD ASS in a super light little car like an AE86, 510, Starlet, etc.

OptionZero · 08-30-2004, 11:54 PM

because...?

stinky_180 · 08-31-2004, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by RedSuns

i hope you are joking

He isn't joking, I saw this a thread on Freshalloy about a few months ago showing the Honda powered 240sx.

Also there is Honda powered Toyota Corolla GT-S
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=883383&page=1

DRFT · 08-31-2004, 12:11 AM

yup the f20 86 is in the same town as me!

AKADriver · 08-31-2004, 12:36 AM

that's what I'm talking about. F20C in an AE86 is a GOOD idea. Those cars came with a 112hp/105lb-ft 1.6L stock. The F20C is a huge power and torque increase.

SW20Racer · 08-31-2004, 01:33 AM

it is a huge increase for the 86 yes, but for all the money you spent on that total swap you could put in a hybird 4ag and get the same-if not better- results cheaper...

edit: im not saying the swap isnt cool or anything dont get me wrong, i like the innovation behind it, but there are more cost effective ways to achieve the same end. cool? yes. practical? not even a little bit.

mav1178 · 08-31-2004, 01:36 AM

What would be perfect (and street legal) is a F20C engine w/ Comptech supercharger.... drop the weight of the S13 by 200-300lbs, perfect time-attack car.

-alex

nissandrift · 08-31-2004, 07:30 AM

nothing compares to the KA-t that my freind is putting into his 86, suprisingly the KA is only like 20 or so pounds heavier than the 4ag.

Mr. Badlose · 08-31-2004, 10:34 AM

I think it's a good idea, making the swap complete could be a nightmare though.

Reliable engine, high-rev power. Would be fun. Like Alex suggested, a charger would seal the deal.

drftwerks · 08-31-2004, 10:36 AM

yea gabes car is sooo nice, and you can never build a 4ag i dont care wich, to make as much power w/ reliability, as a stock or near stock F20C.

Bryon

Rennen · 08-31-2004, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mav1178

What would be perfect (and street legal) is a F20C engine w/ Comptech supercharger.... drop the weight of the S13 by 200-300lbs, perfect time-attack car.

-alex

close.....

What would be perfect for the s2k engine would be a Lotus Super 7 replica body by Caterham or someone, perfect everything-racing car

.... until it rains.

like this:

On a slightly related note, I picked up a copy of SCC the other day. They did a "time attack"

what a bunch of pussies. NO pushrods, NO flat 6s. Sounds like someone was scared of real cars.

HyperTek · 08-31-2004, 11:45 AM

id rather 13bt rotary into s13. or sr20 into s30 (my dream) over an f20 int0 s13 (id rather have the s2k that it comes in)

wootwoot · 08-31-2004, 12:52 PM

th new lotus elise should have used the f20c. one thing though, is that engine code still used? i mean it is a 2.2l now

OptionZero · 08-31-2004, 01:06 PM

i dont think it would work in the elise, the elise is MR...unless u had a custom drive train for the F20 to drive the rear wheels while being right behind the driver

AKADriver · 08-31-2004, 01:33 PM

It's F22C for the 2004 S2000 (identifiable by the gold valley cover).

The K20A/K24A transmissions can be adapted to the F20C/F22C. The Elises he's talking about used 200hp K20As, though. They were private imports of the 2nd gen Elise into the US before it was officially released here with a Toyota 2ZZ-GE. In Europe they used a Rover engine.

That super seven is the PERFECT place to put an F20C.

drftwerks · 08-31-2004, 04:25 PM

yea that super 7 rocks

RedSuns · 08-31-2004, 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stinky_180

He isn't joking, I saw this a thread on Freshalloy about a few months ago showing the Honda powered 240sx.

Also there is Honda powered Toyota Corolla GT-S
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=883383&page=1

man....some people

drftwerks · 08-31-2004, 10:00 PM

there is also a F20 powered 510, soo nice, ill try to find pics and stuff.

the240sxer95 · 09-01-2004, 03:23 AM

yeah i would love a NA 240.. mMmmm ITB's! but the cost is dammm crazy! might as well go KAT for more power and less cost

F3600 · 09-01-2004, 06:38 AM

damn at first i was thinking you were all talking about the FJ20DET lol... that would be nice in an s13 but not a f20C ...

KA24DESOneThree · 09-01-2004, 02:00 PM

That looks like Qualcomm in the background of the Super Seven pic.

DRFT · 09-01-2004, 03:38 PM

theres a F20 powered FC too

08-30-2004, 10:52 PM	#1
drftwerks Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: california Posts: 2,343 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	F20 s13?? I think it would be a pretty rad (lack of a better word) swap, 240 hp, relaibility, smog legal (more than a sr), and best of all 9,000 RPM Red Line, i mean its of course better than a NA SR, but the s13 (coupe) is probably jsut as light asa S2K so what do you think? Bryon (not commercial, lol) aim - drftwerks

08-30-2004, 11:18 PM	#4
RedSuns Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Northern VA Age: 43 Posts: 1,865 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	255hp....148ft-lbs not worth it at all __________________ Johnathan 2005 Titan 1996 240SX 1991 240SX 1974 260Z 1996 Honda CBR 600 F3

08-31-2004, 10:36 AM	#18
drftwerks Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: california Posts: 2,343 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	yea gabes car is sooo nice, and you can never build a 4ag i dont care wich, to make as much power w/ reliability, as a stock or near stock F20C. Bryon __________________ giantroboteyes.wordpress.com/

08-31-2004, 11:45 AM	#20
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,224 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	id rather 13bt rotary into s13. or sr20 into s30 (my dream) over an f20 int0 s13 (id rather have the s2k that it comes in) __________________ Keep it Classy

08-31-2004, 04:25 PM	#24
drftwerks Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: california Posts: 2,343 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	yea that super 7 rocks __________________ giantroboteyes.wordpress.com/

08-30-2004, 11:01 PM	#2
nismo skyline Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: American Gardens Building West 81st Street Posts: 927 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: nismo skyline Feedback Score: 0 reviews	the f20c is torqueless, and we all know torque=fun

08-30-2004, 11:17 PM	#3
DRFT Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Pow Pow Age: 41 Posts: 3,744 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	this has been done already. some dude in texas

08-30-2004, 11:30 PM	#6
drftwerks Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: california Posts: 2,343 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	ok same tq as twin cam ka, put a sc on it then what?

08-30-2004, 11:41 PM	#8
drftwerks Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: california Posts: 2,343 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	haha yea,i dont know i jsut like NA

08-30-2004, 11:53 PM	#9
AKADriver Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 43 Posts: 3,517 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	The 240SX is too heavy to really make use of the F20C. Considering we weigh about the same as an S2000, the result is... a car that accelerates like an S2000 (good, but not blistering) and handles like a 15 year old car (again, good, but not blistering). The F20C would BAD ASS in a super light little car like an AE86, 510, Starlet, etc.

08-30-2004, 11:54 PM	#10
OptionZero Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 41 Posts: 6,263 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: OptionZero Feedback Score: 2 reviews	because...?

08-31-2004, 12:11 AM	#12
DRFT Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Pow Pow Age: 41 Posts: 3,744 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yup the f20 86 is in the same town as me!

08-31-2004, 12:36 AM	#13
AKADriver Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 43 Posts: 3,517 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	that's what I'm talking about. F20C in an AE86 is a GOOD idea. Those cars came with a 112hp/105lb-ft 1.6L stock. The F20C is a huge power and torque increase.

08-31-2004, 01:33 AM	#14
SW20Racer Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Beaumont Age: 40 Posts: 1,633 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	it is a huge increase for the 86 yes, but for all the money you spent on that total swap you could put in a hybird 4ag and get the same-if not better- results cheaper... edit: im not saying the swap isnt cool or anything dont get me wrong, i like the innovation behind it, but there are more cost effective ways to achieve the same end. cool? yes. practical? not even a little bit.

08-31-2004, 01:36 AM	#15
mav1178 Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Hacienda Heights, CA 91745 Posts: 1,530 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	What would be perfect (and street legal) is a F20C engine w/ Comptech supercharger.... drop the weight of the S13 by 200-300lbs, perfect time-attack car. -alex

08-31-2004, 07:30 AM	#16
nissandrift Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC Age: 41 Posts: 103 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	nothing compares to the KA-t that my freind is putting into his 86, suprisingly the KA is only like 20 or so pounds heavier than the 4ag.

08-31-2004, 10:34 AM	#17
Mr. Badlose Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: CA Posts: 327 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I think it's a good idea, making the swap complete could be a nightmare though. Reliable engine, high-rev power. Would be fun. Like Alex suggested, a charger would seal the deal.

08-31-2004, 12:52 PM	#21
wootwoot Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: sarasota florida biatch Age: 39 Posts: 3,850 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	th new lotus elise should have used the f20c. one thing though, is that engine code still used? i mean it is a 2.2l now

08-31-2004, 01:06 PM	#22
OptionZero Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 41 Posts: 6,263 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: OptionZero Feedback Score: 2 reviews	i dont think it would work in the elise, the elise is MR...unless u had a custom drive train for the F20 to drive the rear wheels while being right behind the driver

08-31-2004, 01:33 PM	#23
AKADriver Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 43 Posts: 3,517 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	It's F22C for the 2004 S2000 (identifiable by the gold valley cover). The K20A/K24A transmissions can be adapted to the F20C/F22C. The Elises he's talking about used 200hp K20As, though. They were private imports of the 2nd gen Elise into the US before it was officially released here with a Toyota 2ZZ-GE. In Europe they used a Rover engine. That super seven is the PERFECT place to put an F20C.

08-31-2004, 10:00 PM	#26
drftwerks Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: california Posts: 2,343 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	there is also a F20 powered 510, soo nice, ill try to find pics and stuff. __________________ giantroboteyes.wordpress.com/

09-01-2004, 03:23 AM	#27
the240sxer95 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2002 Location: cali cali Posts: 1,322 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeah i would love a NA 240.. mMmmm ITB's! but the cost is dammm crazy! might as well go KAT for more power and less cost

09-01-2004, 06:38 AM	#28
F3600 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 364 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	damn at first i was thinking you were all talking about the FJ20DET lol... that would be nice in an s13 but not a f20C ...

09-01-2004, 02:00 PM	#29
KA24DESOneThree Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: SD County SoCal Age: 39 Posts: 2,564 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: KA24DESOneThree Feedback Score: 2 reviews	That looks like Qualcomm in the background of the Super Seven pic.

09-01-2004, 03:38 PM	#30
DRFT Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Pow Pow Age: 41 Posts: 3,744 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	theres a F20 powered FC too