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CHOUKI240 · 09-10-2004, 10:53 AM

My 240 is about ready to get new brake pads. I've searched the forum for threads on which pads are good and bad, but didn't come up with much. A few that came up were Axxis, Hawk and Project Mu. What pads do you guys recommend? include prices if you know them.

1992 240sx Coupe SE w/HUD
81,XXX miles
5spd
Aztec Red

AutoRnD · 09-10-2004, 11:04 AM

ENDLESS VITA NUOVA $120 0-570 Farenheit
ENDLESS SSS $180 30-935 Farenheit

I would rock these if i were you =)

skatanic28 · 09-10-2004, 11:16 AM

i run hawk hps. good street pads for me. great initial bite, low dust, low noise. with my driving style i dont get any fade either. how hard do you drive?

CHOUKI240 · 09-10-2004, 11:23 AM

Ard josh - can you hook it up! i'd be going for the endless vita's. how much can you get them for me? i'm up in vallejo. also what are they made of?

skatanic28 - i've seen the hawks and they're cool, i just wanted to get more opinions on different pads. lets just say i like to drive enthusiastically.

orion::S14 · 09-10-2004, 11:25 AM

Hawk HPS, Axxis Ultimate, or Axxis Metal Master...can't go wrong, and they're reasonably priced.

Great street / track pads, good all around use.

- Brian

msaskin · 09-10-2004, 03:31 PM

Hawk HPS/HP+ or Porterfield R4S.

Endless and Project Mu pads are nothing but a waste of money. Same (sometimes worse) specs than equivalent american made (Hawk/Porterfield) pads. Granted, you don't get the "mad-JdM y0" bling, but then again, you end up with more money in your pocket.

~matt

s14srpilot · 09-10-2004, 03:48 PM

In this case more money in your pocket > "mad-JdM y0" bling

AutoRnD · 09-10-2004, 03:56 PM

msaskin.. have you ever used endless pads? believe me.. ive used them.. compared them to hawk and porterfield.. and its a world of difference...

misnomer · 09-10-2004, 04:03 PM

I just got some axxis ultimates from nopi. . . $35 an axle or so. Rediculous performance for the price. I had my Brembo blanks glowing red, pads on fire, and it still didn't fade (long story). . . They are a bit dusty-- think of it as encouragement to clean more often :P

They have great bite off the bat, very predictable. I loves them.

kandyflip445 · 09-10-2004, 05:31 PM

I bet you're just trying to push your products again.

I like the Hawk HPS.

ZodiacSR · 09-10-2004, 05:58 PM

Axxis Ultimates are awesome "bang for your buck" performance. Misnomer is right about the brake dust, theres quite a bit.

Axxis Metal Masters are good, not as great as Ultimates I think.

KVR no good. Requires warm up and can be very dangerous in very cold weather. Sufficient when warmed up.

I run them with KVR crossdrilled rotors if it matters. These rotors are good as well with almost 3 years of track and mountain abuse.

300ZX 26mm calipers up front
stock calipers in the back

aznpoopy · 09-10-2004, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ard josh

msaskin.. have you ever used endless pads? believe me.. ive used them.. compared them to hawk and porterfield.. and its a world of difference...

lmao... everytime brake pads comes up you push endless pads... are you telling me the japanese have some super special pads that are so superior to the ones we have on these shores?

hawk hps have good bite, but they dust alot. they are also a little slow to bite in the morning when cold. overall they are more then decent pads for the money.i've heard good things about axxis ultimates. any of these pads would be fine for street or some light track duty.

the240sxer95 · 09-10-2004, 08:17 PM

which project mu pads? and how do they compare to ENDLESS?

Sirikool · 09-10-2004, 09:43 PM

I'd go with HAWKS.

nissantuner22 · 09-10-2004, 10:08 PM

im running hawks, love em.

meatish · 09-11-2004, 12:20 AM

Ive been using hawk HPS for a few months now and I love them. Great performance for the value. Try Shox.com for low prices..

TurDz · 09-11-2004, 01:49 AM

I use Porterfield R4S on a Maxima and they've served me great. With a big, open spoke wheel, the extra brake dust they generate is easy to clean off. Sufficiently well in cold weather too.

TheSnail · 09-11-2004, 02:02 AM

The >Green Stuff<

kandyflip445 · 09-11-2004, 03:22 AM

I've heard EBC Green Stuff suck from a lot of people but I don't remember why. What were they like?

Var · 09-11-2004, 12:26 PM

buy Endless but dont buy from josh

I got carbotech on my car they seem to be kickass pads.

TheSnail · 09-11-2004, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kandyflip445

I've heard EBC Green Stuff suck from a lot of people but I don't remember why. What were they like?

I dont know, I never had them. But its a catchy name. Actually, I might of got them a long time ago when I had a dodge stealth. They were like 160$ and had a lifetime waranty, how the hell do brake pads have liftime warranties? I guess you would later be changing rottors instead of pads.

loser101 · 09-11-2004, 02:41 PM

I got Hawk Hp + best thing that i have tried

msaskin · 09-11-2004, 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ard josh

msaskin.. have you ever used endless pads? believe me.. ive used them.. compared them to hawk and porterfield.. and its a world of difference...

I have actually. At various track events on my car I've use the Hawk HT-10, Porterfield R4, and Endless MA22b's.

All of them need to be warmed up (as you can expect with race compound pads) but once there, I've found the Hawks to have a much higher initial braking torque, and generally better "feel" under hard braking. The Porterfields and Endless pads don't seem to offer the same amount of modulation, then again, that could just be my driving/braking style.

Either way, even if the endless pads were a bit better, the fact that they're $300 (!!!!) compared to the $100 I pay for the R4 or HT-10 immediately make them not worth the cost.

~matt

chuy · 09-12-2004, 12:03 PM

HP+ the only down side is the dust it turns red on my spray painted black wheels. Have yet to see brake fade at a race track, stayed on track for 45 min had to get off the car started to overheat.

CHOUKI240 · 09-12-2004, 04:38 PM

yeah...200-300 is alot for pads... i think i'm just gonna get some pepboys pads for now and get some better pads in a few months when I get my tein he coilovers and big brake kit. thanks for all the opinions.

coldfire07 · 09-12-2004, 05:13 PM

My Axxis Ultimates (from www.cobaltfriction.com - one of the best customer service I've dealt with) kick ass on my zenki. I got them for $117 shipped and that included a bottle of SuperBlue fluid. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend them.

KA24DESOneThree · 09-12-2004, 08:09 PM

Axxis Ultimates coupled with Ate Superblue. Great combo.

skatanic28 · 09-12-2004, 09:00 PM

i switched over to ate when i did my pads too. huge difference in pedal feel along with my ss lines. 200 bucks is a lot of cash for pads, but you can get pretty good performance for around 100.

myleftlung · 09-12-2004, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ZodiacSR

KVR no good. Requires warm up and can be very dangerous in very cold weather. Sufficient when warmed up.

Strange, I ran the KVR Carbon Kevlar pads on my old car and I NEVER had a problem. They honestly felt stock beyond the fact that brake fade was almost non-existent. I would be running them on my new car but old car was ABS, and new one is not; therefore my new setup will be HP+ F and the KVR R. You guys think the brake bias will be funky?

aznpoopy · 09-13-2004, 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CHOUKI240

yeah...200-300 is alot for pads... i think i'm just gonna get some pepboys pads for now and get some better pads in a few months when I get my tein he coilovers and big brake kit. thanks for all the opinions.

meh... pepboys sells ebc and hawk hps around where i live. check em out.

09-10-2004, 10:53 AM	#1
CHOUKI240 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: cali_bayArea Posts: 43 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	BRAKES PADS - good vs. bad My 240 is about ready to get new brake pads. I've searched the forum for threads on which pads are good and bad, but didn't come up with much. A few that came up were Axxis, Hawk and Project Mu. What pads do you guys recommend? include prices if you know them. 1992 240sx Coupe SE w/HUD 81,XXX miles 5spd Aztec Red

09-10-2004, 11:04 AM	#2
AutoRnD Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: SF BAY AREA, CA Posts: 2,601 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: AutoRnD Feedback Score: 1 reviews	ENDLESS VITA NUOVA $120 0-570 Farenheit ENDLESS SSS $180 30-935 Farenheit I would rock these if i were you =) __________________ www.AutoRnD.com Nardi, Enkei, Stance, AME Master Distributors for USA Check Out Our Facebook!

09-10-2004, 03:31 PM	#6
msaskin Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Las Vegas, NV / Albany, NY Age: 41 Posts: 268 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: msaskin Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hawk HPS/HP+ or Porterfield R4S. Endless and Project Mu pads are nothing but a waste of money. Same (sometimes worse) specs than equivalent american made (Hawk/Porterfield) pads. Granted, you don't get the "mad-JdM y0" bling, but then again, you end up with more money in your pocket. ~matt __________________ it's not turbo lag...it's foreplay '01 Ford Excursion Limited. Powerstroke Diesel Coming in spring: ???

09-10-2004, 03:56 PM	#8
AutoRnD Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: SF BAY AREA, CA Posts: 2,601 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: AutoRnD Feedback Score: 1 reviews	msaskin.. have you ever used endless pads? believe me.. ive used them.. compared them to hawk and porterfield.. and its a world of difference... __________________ www.AutoRnD.com Nardi, Enkei, Stance, AME Master Distributors for USA Check Out Our Facebook!

09-10-2004, 04:03 PM	#9
misnomer Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Nevada Posts: 2,293 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I just got some axxis ultimates from nopi. . . $35 an axle or so. Rediculous performance for the price. I had my Brembo blanks glowing red, pads on fire, and it still didn't fade (long story). . . They are a bit dusty-- think of it as encouragement to clean more often :P They have great bite off the bat, very predictable. I loves them. __________________ Rowsdower saves us and saves all the world!

09-10-2004, 11:16 AM	#3
skatanic28 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: ny Age: 41 Posts: 443 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i run hawk hps. good street pads for me. great initial bite, low dust, low noise. with my driving style i dont get any fade either. how hard do you drive?

09-10-2004, 11:23 AM	#4
CHOUKI240 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: cali_bayArea Posts: 43 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Ard josh - can you hook it up! i'd be going for the endless vita's. how much can you get them for me? i'm up in vallejo. also what are they made of? skatanic28 - i've seen the hawks and they're cool, i just wanted to get more opinions on different pads. lets just say i like to drive enthusiastically.

09-10-2004, 11:25 AM	#5
orion::S14 Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Orange Park, FL Posts: 1,666 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Hawk HPS, Axxis Ultimate, or Axxis Metal Master...can't go wrong, and they're reasonably priced. Great street / track pads, good all around use. - Brian

09-10-2004, 03:48 PM	#7
s14srpilot BANNED Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Southern CA Posts: 324 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	In this case more money in your pocket > "mad-JdM y0" bling

09-10-2004, 05:31 PM	#10
kandyflip445 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arden, NC Age: 40 Posts: 4,460 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kandyflip445 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I bet you're just trying to push your products again. I like the Hawk HPS. __________________ My 240 vBgarage

09-10-2004, 05:58 PM	#11
ZodiacSR Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 130 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Axxis Ultimates are awesome "bang for your buck" performance. Misnomer is right about the brake dust, theres quite a bit. Axxis Metal Masters are good, not as great as Ultimates I think. KVR no good. Requires warm up and can be very dangerous in very cold weather. Sufficient when warmed up. I run them with KVR crossdrilled rotors if it matters. These rotors are good as well with almost 3 years of track and mountain abuse. 300ZX 26mm calipers up front stock calipers in the back

09-10-2004, 08:17 PM	#13
the240sxer95 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: May 2002 Location: cali cali Posts: 1,322 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	which project mu pads? and how do they compare to ENDLESS?

09-10-2004, 09:43 PM	#14
Sirikool Join Date: May 2004 Location: So Cal Age: 42 Posts: 27 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'd go with HAWKS.

09-10-2004, 10:08 PM	#15
nissantuner22 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Gainesville, Fl Age: 40 Posts: 1,056 Trader Rating: (-1) Feedback Score: -1 reviews	im running hawks, love em. __________________ Current Project: Operation: N/A SR: 93 Silvia Q SR20DE Engine with go fast goodies. , "Common problems 240sx's suffer from are curbs, trees, ditches, and other immovable objects."thx247 "on the tounge... there is no guardrails."- citizen

09-11-2004, 12:20 AM	#16
meatish Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: san diego Posts: 382 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Ive been using hawk HPS for a few months now and I love them. Great performance for the value. Try Shox.com for low prices.. __________________ Mr. Pibb + Red Vines = CRAZY DELICIOUS -Dont wanna be a drifter no more.. Im not a drifter i just crash a lot.

09-11-2004, 01:49 AM	#17
TurDz Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 1,618 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I use Porterfield R4S on a Maxima and they've served me great. With a big, open spoke wheel, the extra brake dust they generate is easy to clean off. Sufficiently well in cold weather too.

09-11-2004, 02:02 AM	#18
TheSnail Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Marietta Georgia Age: 42 Posts: 2,434 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The >Green Stuff<

09-11-2004, 03:22 AM	#19
kandyflip445 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Arden, NC Age: 40 Posts: 4,460 Trader Rating: (1) Rides Gallery: kandyflip445 Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I've heard EBC Green Stuff suck from a lot of people but I don't remember why. What were they like? __________________ My 240 vBgarage

09-11-2004, 12:26 PM	#20
Var Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 43 Posts: 5,032 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Var Feedback Score: 0 reviews	buy Endless but dont buy from josh I got carbotech on my car they seem to be kickass pads. __________________ Hi

09-11-2004, 02:41 PM	#22
loser101 Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: sf Posts: 122 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I got Hawk Hp + best thing that i have tried

09-12-2004, 12:03 PM	#24
chuy Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Colorado some where Age: 48 Posts: 623 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	HP+ the only down side is the dust it turns red on my spray painted black wheels. Have yet to see brake fade at a race track, stayed on track for 45 min had to get off the car started to overheat. __________________ Slide Happy

09-12-2004, 04:38 PM	#25
CHOUKI240 Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: cali_bayArea Posts: 43 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeah...200-300 is alot for pads... i think i'm just gonna get some pepboys pads for now and get some better pads in a few months when I get my tein he coilovers and big brake kit. thanks for all the opinions.

09-12-2004, 05:13 PM	#26
coldfire07 Zilvia Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Dallas, Texas Age: 37 Posts: 209 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	My Axxis Ultimates (from www.cobaltfriction.com - one of the best customer service I've dealt with) kick ass on my zenki. I got them for $117 shipped and that included a bottle of SuperBlue fluid. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend them.

09-12-2004, 08:09 PM	#27
KA24DESOneThree Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: SD County SoCal Age: 39 Posts: 2,564 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: KA24DESOneThree Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Axxis Ultimates coupled with Ate Superblue. Great combo.

09-12-2004, 09:00 PM	#28
skatanic28 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: ny Age: 41 Posts: 443 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i switched over to ate when i did my pads too. huge difference in pedal feel along with my ss lines. 200 bucks is a lot of cash for pads, but you can get pretty good performance for around 100.