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jedc · 10-31-2004, 09:05 AM

I bought a '98 ka that was an auto for my '93 240sx with blown motor. On the back of the crank where the flywheel bolts up, there is a hole with some type of brass fitting in it on my old motor. The new motor has the hole but no fitting. Anyone know what this is and if I'll need it? Also my new motor didn't have an alignment peg where the bellhousing bolts up at the top. Will I need that either?

**Phlip** · 10-31-2004, 09:12 AM

I understand that there is a different bearing/bushing or whatever the fuck it is called on the rear of an auto engine, compared to a 5-speed one... I was lucky enough to have gotten an engine that was initially 5-speed for my engine/driveline swap so this wasn't a question I had to ask exactly.

240dreamer · 10-31-2004, 10:17 AM

That little brass fitting is the pilot bearing. Yes you need it.

**Phlip** · 10-31-2004, 10:59 AM

^^^ Oh shit, now I feel like a DUMBass, PILOT BUSHING!!! Yeah you need it, in fact you need to go down to nissan and give them 10 bucks for a new one, as you should everytime you remove/change the clutch.

jedc · 10-31-2004, 11:56 AM

Thanks a lot guys. What should I do about the alignment stud, try and yank the other one out or get a new one? Anyone ever had to do this?

**Phlip** · 10-31-2004, 05:07 PM

If you are getting another clutch kit, it should also include a clutch alignment tool, and if you aren't, another one shouldn't be terribly expensive.

orion::S14 · 10-31-2004, 07:45 PM

I think he means the alignment stud for the flywheel...it's pressed into the crank.

You'll need to get a new one.

- Brian

**Phlip** · 10-31-2004, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by orion::S14

I think he means the alignment stud for the flywheel...it's pressed into the crank.

You'll need to get a new one.

- Brian

Cool, and in such case, that would be the "thing" that I was speaking of earlier, different from the auto to 5-speed.

jedc · 10-31-2004, 08:20 PM

The alignment "stud" I was talking about is what would align the top part of the bellhousing on the back of the engine. Also, I think what I am looking for is the alignment stud for the crank. It's pressed into a small hole in between some of the bolt holes for the flywheel bolts. Can anyone confirm? I tried pulling them out of the other motor after applying some loosening fluid and they didn't wanna come out.

*crioten* · 11-01-2004, 01:06 AM

the pilot bushing sometimes comes with clutch kits...

**Phlip** · 11-01-2004, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jedc

Also, I think what I am looking for is the alignment stud for the crank. It's pressed into a small hole in between some of the bolt holes for the flywheel bolts. Can anyone confirm? I tried pulling them out of the other motor after applying some loosening fluid and they didn't wanna come out.

"Pulling out" a pilot bushing is nearly fuggin impossible, I have never seen it done... On anything. It's brass, break it out of there and put the new one in.

*crioten* · 11-01-2004, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by PHLIP

"Pulling out" a pilot bushing is nearly fuggin impossible, I have never seen it done... On anything. It's brass, break it out of there and put the new one in.

thats why they have slide hammers, i got mine out

autozone rents them

jedc · 11-01-2004, 09:28 PM

Yes guys, I am replacing the pilot bearing tomorrow as it came with my clutch kit. I will be renting a slide hammer to do it. Also, I need to know if the alignment stud is really necessary. I read that it is there so you put the flywheel on the correct way. Is there anyway to pull it out of the other motor if I need it?

orion::S14 · 11-01-2004, 09:49 PM

Alignment pin for the flywheel is not "necessary"...

If you don't use it, just line the flywheel up with the hole in the crank where the pin should be.

- Brian

10-31-2004, 09:05 AM	#1
jedc Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: South MS Posts: 172 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	New questions involved in auto to manual I bought a '98 ka that was an auto for my '93 240sx with blown motor. On the back of the crank where the flywheel bolts up, there is a hole with some type of brass fitting in it on my old motor. The new motor has the hole but no fitting. Anyone know what this is and if I'll need it? Also my new motor didn't have an alignment peg where the bellhousing bolts up at the top. Will I need that either?

10-31-2004, 09:12 AM	#2
Phlip Yes, I look like that Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In my supervillain's lair Posts: 27,980 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: Phlip Feedback Score: 19 reviews	I understand that there is a different bearing/bushing or whatever the fuck it is called on the rear of an auto engine, compared to a 5-speed one... I was lucky enough to have gotten an engine that was initially 5-speed for my engine/driveline swap so this wasn't a question I had to ask exactly. __________________ Weirdo And I write too!

10-31-2004, 10:17 AM	#3
240dreamer Leaky Injector Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Oklahoma Age: 44 Posts: 101 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	That little brass fitting is the pilot bearing. Yes you need it. __________________ 89 240sx Hatch 06 Honda CBR600 F4i

10-31-2004, 10:59 AM	#4
Phlip Yes, I look like that Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In my supervillain's lair Posts: 27,980 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: Phlip Feedback Score: 19 reviews	^^^ Oh shit, now I feel like a DUMBass, PILOT BUSHING!!! Yeah you need it, in fact you need to go down to nissan and give them 10 bucks for a new one, as you should everytime you remove/change the clutch. __________________ Weirdo And I write too!

10-31-2004, 05:07 PM	#6
Phlip Yes, I look like that Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In my supervillain's lair Posts: 27,980 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: Phlip Feedback Score: 19 reviews	If you are getting another clutch kit, it should also include a clutch alignment tool, and if you aren't, another one shouldn't be terribly expensive. __________________ Weirdo And I write too!

10-31-2004, 11:56 AM	#5
jedc Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: South MS Posts: 172 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thanks a lot guys. What should I do about the alignment stud, try and yank the other one out or get a new one? Anyone ever had to do this?

10-31-2004, 07:45 PM	#7
orion::S14 Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Orange Park, FL Posts: 1,666 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I think he means the alignment stud for the flywheel...it's pressed into the crank. You'll need to get a new one. - Brian __________________ www.KA24DEvelopment.com

10-31-2004, 08:20 PM	#9
jedc Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: South MS Posts: 172 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The alignment "stud" I was talking about is what would align the top part of the bellhousing on the back of the engine. Also, I think what I am looking for is the alignment stud for the crank. It's pressed into a small hole in between some of the bolt holes for the flywheel bolts. Can anyone confirm? I tried pulling them out of the other motor after applying some loosening fluid and they didn't wanna come out.

11-01-2004, 09:28 PM	#13
jedc Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: South MS Posts: 172 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yes guys, I am replacing the pilot bearing tomorrow as it came with my clutch kit. I will be renting a slide hammer to do it. Also, I need to know if the alignment stud is really necessary. I read that it is there so you put the flywheel on the correct way. Is there anyway to pull it out of the other motor if I need it?

11-01-2004, 09:49 PM	#14
orion::S14 Nissanaholic! Join Date: May 2003 Location: Orange Park, FL Posts: 1,666 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Alignment pin for the flywheel is not "necessary"... If you don't use it, just line the flywheel up with the hole in the crank where the pin should be. - Brian __________________ www.KA24DEvelopment.com