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Old 03-29-2018, 08:56 AM   #781
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Remember that time when he said Mexico will pay for the wall??

Yeah, that was a big fucking lie. Now he wants the people of the US (through the military), and their hard earned tax payer dollars, to pay for the wall.

Anyone tired of winning yet??
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Remember that time when he said Mexico will pay for the wall??

Yeah, that was a big fucking lie. Now he wants the people of the US (through the military), and their hard earned tax payer dollars, to pay for the wall.

Anyone tired of winning yet??
Not yet. Literally bought a car because of the tax break, helping the better than expected booming economy.

Also how upset were you with all of Obama’s lies? Just curious.
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Not yet. Literally bought a car because of the tax break, helping the better than expected booming economy.

Also how upset were you with all of Obama’s lies? Just curious.
.......And how upset were you when Cambridge Analytical used your own biases and outrageous lies in Ads to swing the vote by 70K in those swing states??

But I guess the $1.50 you saved on your monthly paycheck allowed you to buy that brand spanking new Porsche $150,000 GT3 RS. To me, that's a solid financial decision

But hey, its cool. Since we are talking about a border wall, that trump blatantly lied about when telling us all that Mexico will pay for it, and then turns around and is trying to put his hands in that same pocket you used to pull the cash to your new car..........yep, keep pivoting to a none point as compared to admitting.........HE LIED!!!

Because you know, Border Wall = Tax Cut

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But hey, its cool. Since we are talking about a border wall, that trump blatantly lied about when telling us all that Mexico will pay for it, and then turns around and is trying to put his hands in that same pocket you used to pull the cash to your new car..........yep, keep pivoting to a none point as compared to admitting.........HE LIED!!!

Because you know, Border Wall = Tax Cut
Mexico was never going to pay for that wall. It was the stupidest thing that anyone was stupid enough to ever believe. At this point, even people in his own party are using whatever means they can to not-so-subtly suggest to him to let it the fuck go. This is probably in hopes that his supporters feel properly betrayed when it never materializes and the US voting public puts them out of their (The GOP's) hair.
Instead of taking the hint, this guy instead decides to try to change the story and say that it should be the military's bill to foot since, you know, they are the ones holding all the cash now. This will never get any better.
And it is ALL Obama and Hillary's fault, remember that and don't let anyone ever let anyone convince you to forget it.
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......but But BUT!!! What about her emails?? We never found her EMAILS!!! That's what we should focus on,

That and the deep state. yeah, the deep state!!

P.S To personally attack the same people tasked with protecting you and your family?? What a fucking shitty and potentially suicidal move. Literally suicidal........

Just dumb........
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.......And how upset were you when Cambridge Analytical used your own biases and outrageous lies in Ads to swing the vote by 70K in those swing states??

But I guess the $1.50 you saved on your monthly paycheck allowed you to buy that brand spanking new Porsche $150,000 GT3 RS. To me, that's a solid financial decision

But hey, its cool. Since we are talking about a border wall, that trump blatantly lied about when telling us all that Mexico will pay for it, and then turns around and is trying to put his hands in that same pocket you used to pull the cash to your new car..........yep, keep pivoting to a none point as compared to admitting.........HE LIED!!!

Because you know, Border Wall = Tax Cut

I’d share how much we’re saving each month with the new tax but that’s none of your damn business. I can confirm it’s more that $1.50.

And Obama’s lies. Repeatedly. Not sure what planet you live on, but in my world I’m aware politians lie. On both sides of the isle. Get off your high horse and back to reality.
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You do realize Obama is NOT our president right?? Shit, he hasn't been our president in more than a year.........if you haven't realized.

Now with that said, why the hell are you still on his dick?? If he lies now, how does that affect your financial bottom line?? Your family?? Your alarm clock?? Shit, if HRC lies, how in the world does that affect anything in your universe?? The answer is: It doesn't. And that's a fact no matter how you want to twist it. However, in hindsight, I can equate your constant pivot to Obama as that girlfriend who broke up with you and told you "its her not you". NO matter how much you tell yourself she is an asshole, you have shrine of her in your basement and just can't quit she was so good. Then you constantly try to compare her to your new squeeze but with disastrous results. I guess we can hold Obama in that same light right??

trump is your president. And when he lies, your life IS affected.......no matter how many times you tell yourself it's Obama's fault. Obama has been out of the lime light for almost a year doing his own thing. Get off it already. You should probably take a page out of his book and focus on current issues. And not focus on NON issues from the past. You constantly fail to give Obama credit for the current economy among other things, but please do tell me otherwise........

And yet, you still choose to not accept your president lies.

You know the situation is critical if no lawyer within 500 miles of lawyer city DC wants to be honored by serving the president. That's a big fucking deal.....Like YYUUUUGGGEEEELLLYYYY Big. Like, the Biggest. Like the best Biggest of the Bestest of deals.......

But please do tell, with that in mind, how I am not living in reality........
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You do realize Obama is NOT our president right?? Shit, he hasn't been our president in more than a year.........if you haven't realized.

Now with that said, why the hell are you still on his dick?? If he lies now, how does that affect your financial bottom line?? Your family?? Your alarm clock?? Shit, if HRC lies, how in the world does that affect anything in your universe?? The answer is: It doesn't. And that's a fact no matter how you want to twist it. However, in hindsight, I can equate your constant pivot to Obama as that girlfriend who broke up with you and told you "its her not you". NO matter how much you tell yourself she is an asshole, you have shrine of her in your basement and just can't quit she was so good. Then you constantly try to compare her to your new squeeze but with disastrous results. I guess we can hold Obama in that same light right??

trump is your president. And when he lies, your life IS affected.......no matter how many times you tell yourself it's Obama's fault. Obama has been out of the lime light for almost a year doing his own thing. Get off it already. You should probably take a page out of his book and focus on current issues. And not focus on NON issues from the past. You constantly fail to give Obama credit for the current economy among other things, but please do tell me otherwise........

And yet, you still choose to not accept your president lies.

You know the situation is critical if no lawyer within 500 miles of lawyer city DC wants to be honored by serving the president. That's a big fucking deal.....Like YYUUUUGGGEEEELLLYYYY Big. Like, the Biggest. Like the best Biggest of the Bestest of deals.......

But please do tell, with that in mind, how I am not living in reality........
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.......about the response I expected. I am sure the face palm is a shot across the trump bow because you are finally going to accept trump lies as well, he IS the topic of discussion and not some former president. Good. Glad we are on the same page

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Devil's advocate here.


I get an extra $100 a month from the tax bill in take home money.


On the subject of the wall, I agree with Phlip. It was asinine to believe he would make a foreign country pay for the wall.


I have major doubts now he will get it built since the omnibus bill specifically excludes funds for said wall.
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.......about the response I expected.

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I have major doubts now he will get it built since the omnibus bill specifically excludes funds for said wall.
I think it is a setup. They specifically included the language to get his panties in a bunch, which seems to happen so easily. Then he takes to doing stupid shit like included in the link with which I bumped this thread this morning. THEN he actively attempts to do some shit that, constitutionally, he cannot do.
Then, in the shame of having accomplished next to nothing he said he would in the campaign trail, they get to primary him if he hasn't resigned before 2020.
Personally, I prefer him being primaried and/or losing an election to him resigning and landing us with any amount of time in a Pence presidency.
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Devil's advocate here.


I get an extra $100 a month from the tax bill in take home money.


On the subject of the wall, I agree with Phlip. It was asinine to believe he would make a foreign country pay for the wall.


I have major doubts now he will get it built since the omnibus bill specifically excludes funds for said wall.
And I will play Devil's advocate as well

1) the tax bill is sunsets in 2025 for everyone but the top 5%. Not permanent. Also, there is a good chance those same savings just evaporated after the 1.3 Trillion spending bill. Essentially, they were banking on folks seeing a minor increase in their paycheck until right after 2018 midterms. Who is going to pay for all this spending since now earnings are negative for the tax cut?? To be entirely honest, $100 is peanuts in the grand scheme of things. Now, does it help individuals?? abso freacking lutely. No denying that for sure. Is it permanent?? I wouldn't bet on it
Remember; your health insurance for instance is still going up (just one example). And the reason it is continually increasing is not solely based on the ACA. That's a fact.
Your monthly increased intake will evaporate very quickly.

P.S Those Tarriffs trump lackadaisically signed?? Drove up metal costs some 12%- 30% literally immediately based off which metal is in question (and that is taking into account US production). Yeah, those super Rays wheels just went up in price. Yeah, $100 just evaporated in shipping costs........And no, the US production will never suffice the commodity deficit. Also, we have a trade positive with Canada (which trump lied to the Canadian president about..........and I have no idea why lied about it!)

2) Still no where close to what the top percent is making in regards to the tax plan. Still lopsided.

But either way, my point is; trump lies. Simple. Pivoting to taxes, Obama and how many tattoos Chris Brown has was never the topic of discussion.
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With these raw material tariffs, our economy is going to be so, so, so fucked.

Hey Trump supporters, why do you hate capitalism?
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With these raw material tariffs, our economy is going to be so, so, so fucked.

Hey Trump supporters, why do you hate capitalism?
The costs of the tariffs will be met with an increase in the costs of EVERYTHING dependent on those raw goods, which is eventually every. fucking. thing. The argument could become "well more people will buy American," but the fact remains that buying American for these kinds of things has always been noticeably more expensive.
So everything people THINK they got back on the GOP Tax $cam will be offset by the increase of the cost of everything we want and need.
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Rust belt fails to accept automation and cheap child labor over in China. But....... it's Obama's fault!!! Because he has control over how China produced anything....while also not being our current president.

All the cheap goods trump supporters and in all honesty the entire North America enjoy was NOT produced in America. Start producing in America?? Yeah now no one can afford anything


Remember people; child Chinese labor and automation in the case of robots don't have labor unions, need vacation with pay or need health insurance....that get rolled into production costs

You can't have your cake and eat it as well. But yeah, Obama is to blame..it's always Obama right?
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Well, I haven't felt any of trumps mistakes all of you leftist complain so much about. What I did feel was the penalty I was charge with when I did my taxes this year. It adds up after a few years, and this year it really bothered me. But it can't be obama's fault, right?

And honestly I was never a big fan of him, but seeing how the loosing candidate keeps acting so long after loosing, I think we made the right choice.
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You do know the tax hit you took this year is the gop/ trump plan right? So essentially you're entire first statement is based off a falsehood. The tax plan was changed late last year and why the filling date was pushed back and also why the IRS was scrambling to update the code.

So thank your glorious leader for screwing you over.....I guess the gop plan worked as intended....

And I'm not a leftist BTW, but thanks for basing your assertions on nothing...

Also the losing candidate was HRC, no Obama.....

Not trying to be a dick, but I'm struggling to understand your post due to incorrect and inconsistent information.
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Care about yourself in the here and now if you like.
$50 on a paycheck seems like "oh my god, Trump loves us!" No, he loves that media that created him more than he will EVER love you. Scroll up to post 793 in this very thread for why 9,100 is SO worth it to you that you'll pawn the bill for that shit off on your kids for the rest of forever. The public debt doesn't just go away, and like anyone who has been late on a credit card will tell you that shit tends to come back uglier than it left you. THis administration is angering republicans in congress with this fuckery. This will not end pretty and I would sooner throw the $50 more in my paycheck than to see my daughter's generation footing the bill for it. Hell, I did more for myself than your president did in -- gasp -- working hard and earning a promotion.
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But Phlip, I bought a new car! El presidente must be doing something right for that to happen. He MUST! Obama doesn't have a birth certificate, so he is the reason we were fucked for 8 years man. Don't you see it?
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I was refering to the obamacare penalty and to sore looser hillary...
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Did a bit of digging on the insurance fee
It's 695 or 2.9% whichever is higher. So that equates to $58 a month, way cheaper than if you actually purchased insurance. And better yet, when you go to the ER or a doctors visit, you can kindly pass off the bill to the tax payer as by law, no hospital can turn you away. Great, thanks for being the tax burden which necessitated such a change and what all the trump supporters complain about.....essentially themselves indirectly

....In all honesty they should have charged what would be equivalent to the lowest health insurance premium so atleast people properly pay their way

HRC has been out of the lime light until a few weeks ago. I would also be pissed if I learned the election was essentially tosses by data mining by Cambridge Analytica because people have inherent biases...again non starter about HRCs behavior

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Why do you automatically assume I wouldn't pay my er bill? hahaha
And my penalty was more than that. So I paid that and my bills, yet free loaders keep freeloading and reproducing...
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So you have enough to pay an easy 5000 ER bull but not willing to pay health insurance or get pissed when paying a penalty?

An ambulance ride is at minimum 1-1500 without actually getting into the hospital.

Yep free loaders. My grand mother who has been out of work for several years (after working for 55 years prior) who can't afford an ambulance ride because she lost all her 401k in the stock market crash is a free loader?

There are lots more people on the world apart from your supposed freeloaders... but yep free loaders
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So you have enough to pay an easy 5000 ER bull but not willing to pay health insurance or get pissed when paying a penalty?

An ambulance ride is at minimum 1-1500 without actually getting into the hospital.

Yep free loaders. My grand mother who has been out of work for several years (after working for 55 years prior) who can't afford an ambulance ride because she lost all her 401k in the stock market crash is a free loader?

There are lots more people on the world apart from your supposed freeloaders... but yep free loaders
You're responding to a guy who doesn't realize he is one of the very 'freeloaders' he detests so much.

Remember, "“Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.”"
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But Phlip, I bought a new car! El presidente must be doing something right for that to happen. He MUST! Obama doesn't have a birth certificate, so he is the reason we were fucked for 8 years man. Don't you see it?
Thought we weren’t bringing up Obama anymore. Why are you so fixated on him? Lol.




See what I did there?

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Thought we weren’t bringing up Obama anymore. Why are you so fixated on him? Lol.




See what I did there?

Also, sorry in advance if that wasn’t the hard hitting deep response you were looking for (but should be expecting).
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Why are you here posting as compared to enjoying that brand new car trump and his team afforded you?

I know if I had a shiny new item I wouldn't be wasting my time on Zilvia hahahahah!
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