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Mr. Spool · 10-25-2004, 10:20 PM

is it possible to use an altima engine block in our 240s, they look like they would go in pretty much the same, just would need to change the intake manifold and exhaust manifold, and possibly the oil pan.

devonkyle77 · 10-25-2004, 10:28 PM

dude its fwd

s13driver · 10-25-2004, 10:29 PM

i've ask the same question like maybe..... 3 years ago ??? don't remember but the answer is No, because of the different location for the engine mount or something like that.. don't really remmember... lol

Mr. Spool · 10-25-2004, 10:31 PM

thats the other thing that I couldnt figure out, generally nissan makes there engines somewhat universal, kinda like there cars. Ie if your car is an automatic it will take a stick swap like butta.
Maybe I should go out side and see if there are bolt holes for our engine mounts, or if its possible.

**mrmephistopheles** · 10-25-2004, 10:45 PM

nope. 678910

Thunderchicken · 10-25-2004, 10:46 PM

Why would you want to do this? Just wondering.

FastBack 240 · 10-25-2004, 10:54 PM

No. Coolant lines are totally dif.

rainier · 10-25-2004, 11:12 PM

no it wont work. but if anyone ever finds out how to do it then ill change my mind.

***S14DB*** · 10-25-2004, 11:20 PM

Nissan FWD and RWD blocks are always different. Alot of the parts are the same but the block will never bolt upto the engine mounts and/or the tranny. With the altima engine it's the engine mounts and the Head is different. The Distributor is mounted on the end of the engine not the side.

andrave · 10-25-2004, 11:41 PM

eh, the corolla guys seem to have got real good at putting FWD engines into RWD cars, so its def. doable. I say give it a shot. Get out the digicam, the measuring tape, and the notebook, go to a couple junkyards.. buy an FSM, whatever.

**mrmephistopheles** · 10-26-2004, 12:57 AM

that's because Toyota and Nissan are different manufacturers.

Andrew Bohan · 10-26-2004, 01:48 AM

if you're going to do such a difficult swap, please do it with an engine that's worth it.

atom · 10-26-2004, 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by andrave

eh, the corolla guys seem to have got real good at putting FWD engines into RWD cars, so its def. doable. I say give it a shot. Get out the digicam, the measuring tape, and the notebook, go to a couple junkyards.. buy an FSM, whatever.

But that's because they are forced to. If there were rwd 20V 4ag engines they wouldn't go through the hassle of converting a fwd engine to rwd. It's not like rwd KA's are super rare anyways, especially since the Silvia/SR bandwagon is at maximum overdrive............

Mr. Spool · 10-26-2004, 06:37 AM

The reason why i was contimplating it, is becouse there are tons of non beat on ultima blocks all over the place, and they carried the ka24de engine into the 2000, so finding a low millage relitively new block is deffinitly possible. But odviously the install would not be worth it even if it was possible to pull off.

**mrmephistopheles** · 10-26-2004, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Spool

they carried the ka24de engine into the 2000

So? KA's were put into Frontiers until '03, iirc.

97DubTruck · 10-26-2004, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by mrmephistopheles

So? KA's were put into Frontiers until '03, iirc.

and xterras until 02. (my friend wanted to put the greddy kit on his dads '02)

s14srpilot · 10-26-2004, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by i'm driftaholic

if you're going to do such a difficult swap, please do it with an engine that's worth it.

Swap in a pulsarGti-R sr20det

urbanimpakt · 10-26-2004, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by atom

But that's because they are forced to. If there were rwd 20V 4ag engines they wouldn't go through the hassle of converting a fwd engine to rwd. It's not like rwd KA's are super rare anyways, especially since the Silvia/SR bandwagon is at maximum overdrive............

so true.

I say go for it man try the swap if I had the garage and time I would think about it.

RBS14 · 10-26-2004, 12:09 PM

wait...... so why is putting an altima ka in a 240 such a "crazy idea"?

oh yea, it's not.

deviousKA · 10-26-2004, 07:21 PM

Its been done, i use altima heads on my hybrid engines.

**mrmephistopheles** · 10-26-2004, 07:31 PM

i'm talking about the blocks, not the heads.
I've seen SR20VE heads (FWD) used on RWD SRs.
FWD KA or SR blocks were not designed to be interchangable. TOO MUCH is different.
People need to stop citing Toyota motors because it's apples and oranges. That's like comparing the food served to the US Army and the Iraqi Army. Same meal being served to same type of people - TOTALLY different stuff.

4AGs swap over WAY more easily because 4AG blocks were designed independent of chassis necessity.

***S14DB*** · 10-26-2004, 07:39 PM

Yeah it's easy to do. Just drill and tap new engine mounting points. Then move to the bell housing...

HyperTek · 10-26-2004, 11:56 PM

why? does the altima engine make more hp?

Mr. Spool · 10-27-2004, 06:03 AM

yeah what would the different head do?

AZiaNDriftRaceRX · 03-04-2005, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrave

eh, the corolla guys seem to have got real good at putting FWD engines into RWD cars, so its def. doable. I say give it a shot. Get out the digicam, the measuring tape, and the notebook, go to a couple junkyards.. buy an FSM, whatever.

umm no!
they hav different 20V motors for the 4ag!
my friend got a 20v on his ae86 BUT! its from a ae101 NOT a ae111
[sry ppl..i hang out around alot of toyo ppl! xP]

dude..y not jus get a freakin stock ka24de? its dirt cheap..literally!
y would u want to go through the hassle of using an FF motor??
ahh well...do wut u want..but b prepared for obstacles!
=p

***S14DB*** · 03-04-2005, 03:49 PM

Stop posting in old threads NOW!!!

10-25-2004, 10:20 PM	#1
Mr. Spool Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: East Side, Michigan Age: 44 Posts: 622 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	crazy, idea, altima engine in 240 is it possible to use an altima engine block in our 240s, they look like they would go in pretty much the same, just would need to change the intake manifold and exhaust manifold, and possibly the oil pan. __________________ 96' SE Turbo'd Super 60, S-AFC, SMIC, 370cc Injectors, Open Air BOV, Warblo 255 pump, Stage 3 Clutch Kyb agx, Sportline Springs Full body kit, Bomex rear, Drift sides, r34 front gunmetal rims, yok tires

10-25-2004, 10:28 PM	#2
devonkyle77 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: md Age: 41 Posts: 3,091 Trader Rating: (3) Rides Gallery: devonkyle77 Feedback Score: 3 reviews	dude its fwd __________________ WTB-NARDI wheel & NRG 2.8 QR

10-25-2004, 10:29 PM	#3
s13driver Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: BrokenlanD Posts: 625 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i've ask the same question like maybe..... 3 years ago ??? don't remember but the answer is No, because of the different location for the engine mount or something like that.. don't really remmember... lol __________________ it is so hard to educate the uneducated.

10-25-2004, 10:31 PM	#4
Mr. Spool Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: East Side, Michigan Age: 44 Posts: 622 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thats the other thing that I couldnt figure out, generally nissan makes there engines somewhat universal, kinda like there cars. Ie if your car is an automatic it will take a stick swap like butta. Maybe I should go out side and see if there are bolt holes for our engine mounts, or if its possible. __________________ 96' SE Turbo'd Super 60, S-AFC, SMIC, 370cc Injectors, Open Air BOV, Warblo 255 pump, Stage 3 Clutch Kyb agx, Sportline Springs Full body kit, Bomex rear, Drift sides, r34 front gunmetal rims, yok tires

10-25-2004, 10:54 PM	#7
FastBack 240 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Motor City......MI Age: 39 Posts: 859 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	No. Coolant lines are totally dif. __________________

10-25-2004, 10:46 PM	#6
Thunderchicken Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NY Posts: 23 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Why would you want to do this? Just wondering.

10-25-2004, 11:12 PM	#8
rainier Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Diego / Santa Ana Age: 38 Posts: 2,093 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	no it wont work. but if anyone ever finds out how to do it then ill change my mind. __________________

10-25-2004, 11:20 PM	#9
*S14DB* AFC #1 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 昨晩あなたのお母さんの家 Posts: 20,181 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Nissan FWD and RWD blocks are always different. Alot of the parts are the same but the block will never bolt upto the engine mounts and/or the tranny. With the altima engine it's the engine mounts and the Head is different. The Distributor is mounted on the end of the engine not the side. __________________ Comments should be taken as Opinions not as Statements of Fact

10-25-2004, 11:41 PM	#10
andrave BANNED Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Burton WV Posts: 2,350 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	eh, the corolla guys seem to have got real good at putting FWD engines into RWD cars, so its def. doable. I say give it a shot. Get out the digicam, the measuring tape, and the notebook, go to a couple junkyards.. buy an FSM, whatever.

10-26-2004, 01:48 AM	#12
Andrew Bohan Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 8,331 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	if you're going to do such a difficult swap, please do it with an engine that's worth it.

10-26-2004, 06:37 AM	#14
Mr. Spool Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: East Side, Michigan Age: 44 Posts: 622 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The reason why i was contimplating it, is becouse there are tons of non beat on ultima blocks all over the place, and they carried the ka24de engine into the 2000, so finding a low millage relitively new block is deffinitly possible. But odviously the install would not be worth it even if it was possible to pull off. __________________ 96' SE Turbo'd Super 60, S-AFC, SMIC, 370cc Injectors, Open Air BOV, Warblo 255 pump, Stage 3 Clutch Kyb agx, Sportline Springs Full body kit, Bomex rear, Drift sides, r34 front gunmetal rims, yok tires

10-26-2004, 12:09 PM	#19
RBS14 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Santa Cruz/San Diego Posts: 2,271 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	wait...... so why is putting an altima ka in a 240 such a "crazy idea"? oh yea, it's not. __________________

10-26-2004, 07:21 PM	#20
deviousKA Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Idaho Posts: 437 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Its been done, i use altima heads on my hybrid engines.

10-26-2004, 07:39 PM	#22
*S14DB* AFC #1 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 昨晩あなたのお母さんの家 Posts: 20,181 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Yeah it's easy to do. Just drill and tap new engine mounting points. Then move to the bell housing... __________________ Comments should be taken as Opinions not as Statements of Fact

10-26-2004, 11:56 PM	#23
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,224 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	why? does the altima engine make more hp? __________________ Keep it Classy

10-27-2004, 06:03 AM	#24
Mr. Spool Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: East Side, Michigan Age: 44 Posts: 622 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeah what would the different head do? __________________ 96' SE Turbo'd Super 60, S-AFC, SMIC, 370cc Injectors, Open Air BOV, Warblo 255 pump, Stage 3 Clutch Kyb agx, Sportline Springs Full body kit, Bomex rear, Drift sides, r34 front gunmetal rims, yok tires

03-04-2005, 03:49 PM	#26
*S14DB* AFC #1 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 昨晩あなたのお母さんの家 Posts: 20,181 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Stop posting in old threads NOW!!!