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Old 11-03-2005, 10:44 AM   #91
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well ill be the first to say that my xbox was messed up, it froze up every 10 minutes on just about every game i owned. I had to take it in and spend money on a new one. I also have owned a playstation 2 for about 3 times as long as the xbox and it never gave me a single problem.
That is funny cause every last person I know with an XBox has problems with it. My PS2 on the other hand that I bought on day one, which are supposed to be prone to problems has ran like a top since day one.
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You don't think that if they are not successful in the Japanese parket AGAIn they will back out? I'm still up in the air about this too I guess. But I don't think they can keep producing councils if they don't ever get the success over seas. There's more money over there to be made then in America.
Yeah they're basically wrapping $100 bill around every system sold... kinda sad... but then it's a marketing tactic and a chance to get a sliver of the $ out there that Sony grabs from the rest... a sliver to them is a lifetime of wealth to everyone on this forum LOL!!!
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i've had my xbox since a couple of months after release. only problems i have is that its picky about the discs that it reads. any little scartch and it will just keep saying errors. i just eject and close a couple of times and its fine. my friends have gone through 5 ps2's between the 2 of them. i guess that's a sony tactic lol
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Wow, seems to be a lot of die-hards game fanatics. I'm keen on watching this unfold and thought I'd throw my pennies into the mix

1) Everyone who's fond of the X-Box 360 hasn't gone into detail of which system they're getting? The $299 bare-bones or the $399 "deluxe" one?

If I remember what I read in the article, the $399 system comes w/ the 20 GB HD (no HD in barebones version, which is odd cuz the original comes with a 10 GB HD) and also a free year? (maybe 3 months) of X-Box Live Gold

There's X-Box Live Silver, but that's free to everyone who owns an X-Box, to buy random crap, but no playing X-Box games online.

2) Going further into that X-Box Live thing... that's the only reason most people are into X-Box. I have both and I wouldn't mind playing X-Box Live, its got great support, many people are using/playing it so finding a game is not hard. Everyone's using the same hardware (unlike different PC's) and the only issue is bandwidth so it does kind of even the playing field here.

I've always been a fan of the Playstation and was really excited that they added the HDD and Broadband Adapter, but Sony's lack of infrastructure in creating an online world never materialized. MS jumped on that w/ XB Live and now they dominate the market.

Sony has plans for an online community, a free one at that too --- but I can't see it coming close to the details/features XB Live has included. I think the only reason MS is selling their system to Japan is because of tradition. I think MS already knows they make the money selling the XB Live service in the US -- its greatest market (and if they get a few more subscribers in Asia... more money to them)

As for games, MS has picked up a lot of developers to produce games for them. I think the way business is now, a company can't bet on a certain developer to take the lead (aka EA/Square/Konami etc during the last generation) and hope that their "exclusives" sell enough for them to make a profit too. Now game companies realize that they have to produce for all systems to actually break even/make a profit --- game development costs keep rising (some are pricier than movies) and selling to all system owners increases their audience and sales numbers.

Lastly, I thought I'd ask this question:

What's the next Gen DVD Format going to be? Both Sony and MS have taken their respective, conflicting sides and I fear that this might be a "betamax" situation that can affect Sony's future.

I for one, don't care as long as 1 format is agreed on. Both have their merits but it seems like this can tear people apart not only for backwards compatibility but also in the future production of DVD movies and their use in certain DVD players.

Its such a waste but all factors I put above (and more if people want to add them) will definitely play a part in the future leader of the console wars.

and just for Kazuo --- Yes, the Revolution will contain a feature for downloadable content... basically their entire NES/SNES library of games perfectly emulated on the Revolution for a fee per d/l probably. (What that is, I dunno... but it makes me wonder if they can appeal to kids and adults looking for nostalgia?)

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Yes, I'm buying the $399 version. Which besides teh HDD it also comes with a wireless controller (regular system comes with a wired one), HDTV cable, and an extra faceplate. The HDD is $100 by itself, the controller is $39.99, faceplate is $19.99 and the cables are like $29.99. So the extra $100 is worth it. You'd have to be a moron to get the $299 version. Either that or your parents are buying it for you.
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you also get a really nice dvd player controller thing. and a headset. you also have backwards compatability with some games when u have a hdd
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Yes, I'm buying the $399 version. Which besides teh HDD it also comes with a wireless controller (regular system comes with a wired one), HDTV cable, and an extra faceplate. The HDD is $100 by itself, the controller is $39.99, faceplate is $19.99 and the cables are like $29.99. So the extra $100 is worth it. You'd have to be a moron to get the $299 version. Either that or your parents are buying it for you.
yeah exactly 400+ here i come.


and who knows what ps3 will be priced at..

and agent was right...sony just doesnt grasp the whole online play thing at all.
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i loved perfect dark for 64. i hope the new one is just as good.
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i loved perfect dark for 64. i hope the new one is just as good.
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i would love to get these new systems but i cant afford no 400 bux. i'll probably get a used one after the fever dies down.
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Oh and as far as price for PS3, I wouldn't doubt it being $499. No big deal to me. I'll still get it. If it's worth it I'd pay probably up to a $1000 depending on certain things.
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Oh and as far as price for PS3, I wouldn't doubt it being $499. No big deal to me. I'll still get it. If it's worth it I'd pay probably up to a $1000 depending on certain things.
I never touch my ps2 only my xbox and I used to be all about the sony systems saying how much better they are then microsoft but I think I have been converted. I prob. wont buy a ps3 the only game I really care for on the system is gran turismo series and the d1 game. And now they have forza for xbox which is better than gt its just a loosing battle for me and sony. I will probably buy the new revolution since I am starting to miss some of the nintendo classics. Im playing mario 64 right now and I always love mario kart.
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Forget console.

It's all about a FX-55 matched up with SLI 7800GTX playing F.E.A.R. at above 1600x1200. And getting 80+ FPS.

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The PS3 is using 2 graphics cards from iNvidia that retail right now for $500 a piece!!!
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you also get a really nice dvd player controller thing. and a headset. you also have backwards compatability with some games when u have a hdd
I think you just sold me on xbox 360
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and I dont get all this xbox breaks, no PS2 breaks shit. I've had xbox and ps2 forever now and neither has ever given me grief.
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^^^Me too. Ive worked on soooo many xboxs and only one of them ive seen problems with. It worked fine, but one of the capicitors on the inside started to leak.

I also have 2 ps2. Used on a regular basis just like my xbox and neither of them gave up on me.
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Oh and if your not convinced next gen graphincs arn't gonna rawk. Look at these pics from NBA 2K6!!!! I'm not a basketball game fan, but this is awsome looking.


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and I dont get all this xbox breaks, no PS2 breaks shit. I've had xbox and ps2 forever now and neither has ever given me grief.
probably b/c most of the ppl out there are fucking idiots and don't take care of their stuff. They'll spill shit on it, or always leave it on so it eventually burns out. Then they blame microsoft or sony saying they suck and their products are built crappily, to shift blame and try to get a free one.
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Old 11-07-2005, 10:38 AM   #117
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Day 1? Yeah I'll have one on day one...

Day -1, -2, and -3 as well.

Thanks Pepsi/Mountain Dew for giving me one on the 19th :-P
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Day -1, -2, and -3 as well.

Thanks Pepsi/Mountain Dew for giving me one on the 19th :-P
Yea I know someone who won one too. Too bad it's the gay basic system.
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Yea I know someone who won one too. Too bad it's the gay basic system.
It's not the basic system it's the full bundle. My friend also won one and called and asked.
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