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S13Grl · 02-12-2002, 06:27 PM

Due to the  minimal bends and the price, I think I might go with this exhaust. Does anyone have anything good or bad to say about this particular one. Is it worth it to spend the extra $100 for the extra pipe? Thanks in advance.

Irena

Da808aZnRaVr · 02-12-2002, 06:47 PM

i had a single apex n1...when i say had i mean i still have the single one on my car but i had a shop weld another pipe with another single n1 right next to the existing one so i have dual n1's right now...but they r a lot bigger and louder than the dual n1s that come straight from apex...i love the n1 and would not get any other exhaust for my car...oh yeah my car is a 95 jus to let u know...i would say spend the extra hundred and get the single n1...u wont regret it...the only thing, which some may say is a downside but personally i like it, is that when u downshift the n1 will sort of make a poppin noise sort of like its backfiring but not that loud...i personally like that sound and think this exhaust is the best!!!

DuffMan · 02-12-2002, 06:52 PM

The N1 single I think was dynoed in SCC a while back. I don't have it though, but I think they got a good gain.

The Dual is supposed to have more backpressure at low RPMs but still have plenty of flow (even more than the single) at high rpms. At least thats what Apexi says, but they could be just BSing.

To me it's worth it to get dual, just to not look like all the Honda guys with their $75 "Performance Muffler" on their stock piping.

S13Grl · 02-12-2002, 06:58 PM

The dual has more bends in it and therefore has more backpressure and also more low-end power. I was thinking of getting the single due to the lack of backpressure and for the price as well. I really pity anyone who thinks a hatchback 240 with an Apex'i N1 Exhaust looks like someone with a "performance muffler" on their civic. Not trying to offend you, Duffy!

DuffMan · 02-12-2002, 07:06 PM

I don't it think it looks like a riced up Civic, but everyone else will. Not everyone knows what 240sx or N1 exhaust is. If there were more of us, and less of them, it wouldn't be such a big deal.

Maybe I just care too much about what everyone else thinks.

Anyways, the dual has a larger diameter and the single has less bends. Which will produce more HP? Also which would be better with an SR?

S13Grl · 02-12-2002, 07:10 PM

I dont' know which would be better with an SR nor do I care <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>. Not quite Anti-SR but actually Pro-KA. The Dual has about 5.5" of displacement (diameter) together. The Single is 2.75". Still not bad with a turbo app.

DuffMan · 02-12-2002, 07:16 PM

I like the KA too, but mines got 125,000 miles on it, so slapping a turbo on it would be cruel to the poor thing.

S13Grl · 02-12-2002, 07:29 PM

Or you can just get another low-mileage KA from someone who's swapping for an SR and plant it in there. There's also the option of getting new/forged pistons, piston rings and connecting rods as well as having a valve-job done in addition with some new re-ground cams. That's all something anyone who wants to make some serious power would want to do with their KA. Or so you would think. The car that I'm buying has 107K on it. I'm not planning on turboing it unless I've at least had someone look at the internals. Actually, I'll probably test the compression and see if there might have been any damage to begin with before I think of anything else. But I don't think that motor is gonna stay in there. And if it does, the internals are definitely going... at least some of them.

Supposedly, the '91-'93 KAs had better pistons then the '95-'98 KAs. I've been told that the stock internals on '91-'93 KAs can safely handle up to 10psis of boost before any danger. The '91 is known to have good cams. I don't know much else about internals, unfortunately. But anyway... unless the compression is way off and you know of some knocks... I'd say get a new motor. Otherwise, just do a rebuild on the old one.

boost · 02-12-2002, 07:37 PM

2 mufflers = twice the weight. most people don't care though. i like the dual muffler look but i'll go single tip whenever i decide to start modifying mine.

BadMoJo · 02-12-2002, 08:00 PM

Well, i have had my N1 dual for a few weeks now. I love it. I was thinkin about getting the single, but I am glad i went with the dual. It looks great and sounds sweet. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

bing · 02-12-2002, 08:08 PM

S13grl... lets get a group buy going so we can get a better deal..

i want one too, tak posted in the for sale's an Apexi N1 single for just under $500 shipped, thats the best i've seen and i need exhaust pretty bad,

i want the single, i've got a dual tip muffler now and i dont know i wanna go single

BlankFlip · 02-12-2002, 08:46 PM

i'm thinkin' the n1 dual w/ some silencers would be good for n/a. i think i might do that later.

bing · 02-12-2002, 08:57 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from bing on 8<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>8 pm on Feb. 12, 2002
S13grl... lets get a group buy going so we can get a better deal..

i want one too, tak posted in the for sale's an Apexi N1 single for just under $500 shipped, thats the best i've seen and i need exhaust pretty bad,

i want the single, i've got a dual tip muffler now and i dont know i wanna go single
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sorry that was 5zigen catback 2.5 for $485 shipped..

i know i saw it for $500 some where, i'll find it again

bing · 02-12-2002, 09:13 PM

Autocarparts.com - $500 shipped
digital racer - same thing

drift freaq · 02-13-2002, 01:29 AM

S13grl, If your going to Turbo I would say forgot the N1 go Blitz Nur spec they are the schiznit for turbo setups. Otherwise 5zigen is the bomb too.

DuffMan · 02-13-2002, 02:07 AM

Boostdynamics has the single for 400 and the dual for 500. Actually I think the dual should only be like 50 bucks more but so many places are out of stock that it's being marked up.

oberkill · 02-13-2002, 06:53 AM

Look for a special on the N1 duals shortly at boost dynamics!! And they will be in stock!

Alan

Krunko · 02-13-2002, 09:23 AM

I ordered my n1 dual from rollhard a few days before christmas...I still havn't gotten it. :-(  It's been on backorder for way too long.

BadMoJo · 02-13-2002, 12:03 PM

same here, look around at other places that might have it in stock. I ordered mine from them same time you did, but i found it somewhere else and had it at my door a week later. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>  i had to pay a hair more, but at least I got it.

bing · 02-13-2002, 01:30 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from oberkill on 6:53 am on Feb. 13, 2002
Look for a special on the N1 duals shortly at boost dynamics!! And they will be in stock!

Alan
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what would the N1 singel be with shipping dude, thats way cheaper than anyone else so far...

are they instock, how long from ordering to doorstep???

S13Grl · 02-14-2002, 07:02 PM

If anything, I'd like to buy it from BoostDynamics. Of course, I hope you guys could cut us a GOOD deal <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>. Any info?

bing · 02-14-2002, 07:11 PM

i e-mailed boost dynamics, they havent got me back yet, but i had a problem with my e-mail today so i dont know...

i cant stop thinking about it though.....

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh (runs into a wall and falls uncontious on the floor)

240 2NR · 02-14-2002, 10:20 PM

In my personal opionion, if you want a single can look, get the 5Zigen fireball.  Better NA exhaust, and looks.  The dual is just an awsome looking exhuast and for the fact that it is only available for  the 240 and the Rx-7 should be enough reason to get it (you'll never see a civic sweating your style).  I don't think the low end gains match the fireballs, but up top should be about the same and it sounds so sweet.

Will boost dynamics have a 5Zigen fireball sale too?  Who can post the lowest price?  You or autoimaging?  Will anyone cut me a deal if I get a B&M SS at the same time? :wink:

MorganS13 · 02-15-2002, 12:04 PM

PLUS the rx-7 version of the N1 Dual comes out each side at the factory points, not at one point like the 240.  but unfortunately i'm sure u guys have started to see the universal dual mufflers now available.  I saw an integra with one of these the other day, it came out straight back however, not at an angle like N1s.  

Sick240 · 02-16-2002, 09:33 PM

I bought the N1 single from enjuku racing, and it was waiting at my doorstep 3 days later, it was marked at $400, but I cant tell you exactly how much shipping is because I ordered that and a Header at the same time, sorry, see ya

02-16-2002, 09:33 PM	#25
Sick240 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 114 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I bought the N1 single from enjuku racing, and it was waiting at my doorstep 3 days later, it was marked at $400, but I cant tell you exactly how much shipping is because I ordered that and a Header at the same time, sorry, see ya __________________ 90 240sx Coupe

02-12-2002, 06:27 PM	#1
S13Grl Married to the Mob Join Date: Dec 2000 Age: 44 Posts: 3,670 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Due to the  minimal bends and the price, I think I might go with this exhaust. Does anyone have anything good or bad to say about this particular one. Is it worth it to spend the extra $100 for the extra pipe? Thanks in advance. Irena

02-12-2002, 06:47 PM	#2
Da808aZnRaVr Zilvia Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: hawaii Age: 42 Posts: 153 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i had a single apex n1...when i say had i mean i still have the single one on my car but i had a shop weld another pipe with another single n1 right next to the existing one so i have dual n1's right now...but they r a lot bigger and louder than the dual n1s that come straight from apex...i love the n1 and would not get any other exhaust for my car...oh yeah my car is a 95 jus to let u know...i would say spend the extra hundred and get the single n1...u wont regret it...the only thing, which some may say is a downside but personally i like it, is that when u downshift the n1 will sort of make a poppin noise sort of like its backfiring but not that loud...i personally like that sound and think this exhaust is the best!!!

02-12-2002, 06:52 PM	#3
DuffMan Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: in a cardboard box Posts: 2,517 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The N1 single I think was dynoed in SCC a while back. I don't have it though, but I think they got a good gain. The Dual is supposed to have more backpressure at low RPMs but still have plenty of flow (even more than the single) at high rpms. At least thats what Apexi says, but they could be just BSing. To me it's worth it to get dual, just to not look like all the Honda guys with their $75 "Performance Muffler" on their stock piping.

02-12-2002, 06:58 PM	#4
S13Grl Married to the Mob Join Date: Dec 2000 Age: 44 Posts: 3,670 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The dual has more bends in it and therefore has more backpressure and also more low-end power. I was thinking of getting the single due to the lack of backpressure and for the price as well. I really pity anyone who thinks a hatchback 240 with an Apex'i N1 Exhaust looks like someone with a "performance muffler" on their civic. Not trying to offend you, Duffy!

02-12-2002, 07:06 PM	#5
DuffMan Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: in a cardboard box Posts: 2,517 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I don't it think it looks like a riced up Civic, but everyone else will. Not everyone knows what 240sx or N1 exhaust is. If there were more of us, and less of them, it wouldn't be such a big deal. Maybe I just care too much about what everyone else thinks. Anyways, the dual has a larger diameter and the single has less bends. Which will produce more HP? Also which would be better with an SR?

02-12-2002, 07:10 PM	#6
S13Grl Married to the Mob Join Date: Dec 2000 Age: 44 Posts: 3,670 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I dont' know which would be better with an SR nor do I care <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>. Not quite Anti-SR but actually Pro-KA. The Dual has about 5.5" of displacement (diameter) together. The Single is 2.75". Still not bad with a turbo app.

02-12-2002, 07:16 PM	#7
DuffMan Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: in a cardboard box Posts: 2,517 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I like the KA too, but mines got 125,000 miles on it, so slapping a turbo on it would be cruel to the poor thing.

02-12-2002, 07:29 PM	#8
S13Grl Married to the Mob Join Date: Dec 2000 Age: 44 Posts: 3,670 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Or you can just get another low-mileage KA from someone who's swapping for an SR and plant it in there. There's also the option of getting new/forged pistons, piston rings and connecting rods as well as having a valve-job done in addition with some new re-ground cams. That's all something anyone who wants to make some serious power would want to do with their KA. Or so you would think. The car that I'm buying has 107K on it. I'm not planning on turboing it unless I've at least had someone look at the internals. Actually, I'll probably test the compression and see if there might have been any damage to begin with before I think of anything else. But I don't think that motor is gonna stay in there. And if it does, the internals are definitely going... at least some of them. Supposedly, the '91-'93 KAs had better pistons then the '95-'98 KAs. I've been told that the stock internals on '91-'93 KAs can safely handle up to 10psis of boost before any danger. The '91 is known to have good cams. I don't know much else about internals, unfortunately. But anyway... unless the compression is way off and you know of some knocks... I'd say get a new motor. Otherwise, just do a rebuild on the old one.

02-12-2002, 07:37 PM	#9
boost Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: cupertino Posts: 232 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	2 mufflers = twice the weight. most people don't care though. i like the dual muffler look but i'll go single tip whenever i decide to start modifying mine.

02-12-2002, 08:00 PM	#10
BadMoJo Nissanaholic! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Luis Obispo, Ca Age: 43 Posts: 1,931 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Well, i have had my N1 dual for a few weeks now. I love it. I was thinkin about getting the single, but I am glad i went with the dual. It looks great and sounds sweet. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

02-12-2002, 08:08 PM	#11
bing Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ontario canada Posts: 2,699 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	S13grl... lets get a group buy going so we can get a better deal.. i want one too, tak posted in the for sale's an Apexi N1 single for just under $500 shipped, thats the best i've seen and i need exhaust pretty bad, i want the single, i've got a dual tip muffler now and i dont know i wanna go single

02-12-2002, 08:46 PM	#12
BlankFlip Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: The Future Posts: 1,627 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i'm thinkin' the n1 dual w/ some silencers would be good for n/a. i think i might do that later.

02-12-2002, 08:57 PM	#13
bing Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ontario canada Posts: 2,699 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from bing on 8<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>8 pm on Feb. 12, 2002 S13grl... lets get a group buy going so we can get a better deal.. i want one too, tak posted in the for sale's an Apexi N1 single for just under $500 shipped, thats the best i've seen and i need exhaust pretty bad, i want the single, i've got a dual tip muffler now and i dont know i wanna go single </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> sorry that was 5zigen catback 2.5 for $485 shipped.. i know i saw it for $500 some where, i'll find it again

02-12-2002, 09:13 PM	#14
bing Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ontario canada Posts: 2,699 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	Autocarparts.com - $500 shipped digital racer - same thing

02-13-2002, 01:29 AM	#15
drift freaq R.I.P. Aya, always love Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Feliz/Hollywood Posts: 18,564 Trader Rating: (215) Rides Gallery: drift freaq Feedback Score: 215 reviews	S13grl, If your going to Turbo I would say forgot the N1 go Blitz Nur spec they are the schiznit for turbo setups. Otherwise 5zigen is the bomb too.

02-13-2002, 02:07 AM	#16
DuffMan Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: in a cardboard box Posts: 2,517 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Boostdynamics has the single for 400 and the dual for 500. Actually I think the dual should only be like 50 bucks more but so many places are out of stock that it's being marked up.

02-13-2002, 06:53 AM	#17
oberkill Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 314 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: oberkill Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Look for a special on the N1 duals shortly at boost dynamics!! And they will be in stock! Alan

02-13-2002, 09:23 AM	#18
Krunko Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Sherman Oaks, CA Posts: 349 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I ordered my n1 dual from rollhard a few days before christmas...I still havn't gotten it. :-(  It's been on backorder for way too long.

02-13-2002, 12:03 PM	#19
BadMoJo Nissanaholic! Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: San Luis Obispo, Ca Age: 43 Posts: 1,931 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	same here, look around at other places that might have it in stock. I ordered mine from them same time you did, but i found it somewhere else and had it at my door a week later. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>  i had to pay a hair more, but at least I got it.

02-13-2002, 01:30 PM	#20
bing Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ontario canada Posts: 2,699 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Quote: from oberkill on 6:53 am on Feb. 13, 2002 Look for a special on the N1 duals shortly at boost dynamics!! And they will be in stock! Alan </td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> what would the N1 singel be with shipping dude, thats way cheaper than anyone else so far... are they instock, how long from ordering to doorstep???

02-14-2002, 07:02 PM	#21
S13Grl Married to the Mob Join Date: Dec 2000 Age: 44 Posts: 3,670 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	If anything, I'd like to buy it from BoostDynamics. Of course, I hope you guys could cut us a GOOD deal <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>. Any info?

02-14-2002, 07:11 PM	#22
bing Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ontario canada Posts: 2,699 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	i e-mailed boost dynamics, they havent got me back yet, but i had a problem with my e-mail today so i dont know... i cant stop thinking about it though..... ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh (runs into a wall and falls uncontious on the floor)

02-14-2002, 10:20 PM	#23
240 2NR Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Denver Posts: 1,131 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	In my personal opionion, if you want a single can look, get the 5Zigen fireball.  Better NA exhaust, and looks.  The dual is just an awsome looking exhuast and for the fact that it is only available for  the 240 and the Rx-7 should be enough reason to get it (you'll never see a civic sweating your style).  I don't think the low end gains match the fireballs, but up top should be about the same and it sounds so sweet. Will boost dynamics have a 5Zigen fireball sale too?  Who can post the lowest price?  You or autoimaging?  Will anyone cut me a deal if I get a B&M SS at the same time? :wink:

02-15-2002, 12:04 PM	#24
MorganS13 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Midwest Posts: 707 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	PLUS the rx-7 version of the N1 Dual comes out each side at the factory points, not at one point like the 240.  but unfortunately i'm sure u guys have started to see the universal dual mufflers now available.  I saw an integra with one of these the other day, it came out straight back however, not at an angle like N1s.