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[JEdubz]

okay obviously I dont know everything ... but this guy just doesn't use logic in some points... I mean... if FWD was so fast then why do the super car manufacturer's never use it? It's worth a good laugh if you have time



heres somewhere in the middle of it.. i will paste the begining stuff at the end if you still feel like reading...


Mazda MX6 PLAYA: FWD  is awesome
J E Dubz: lol FWD sucks shit


we later got into comparing the skyline to the gti (i dont know why)


J E Dubz: lol... im not going to argue with you anymore
J E Dubz: use fucking logic
J E Dubz: the reason they dont make FWD super cars is because it sucks...
J E Dubz: it always will
J E Dubz: The reason they make FWD economy cars is because it's safe in the rain. But dont tell me that super car manufacturers just make their cars RWD because they don't know the things you talk about.
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: i am  douche
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: ok  man  that  is when yo use physics
J E Dubz: once again you are thinking that you are ahead of the whole world
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: and timing  and when you  pay attention to the times of cars
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: no i dont man
J E Dubz: do you think enzo ferrari dint use phsycis when he made all his cars
J E Dubz: ?
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: but i know how racers meake adjustments to there times and shit
J E Dubz: Yes, and those racers watch fast and the furious and read super street or just look at pictures.
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: w/e man im not gonna argue with you  you think you know everything
J E Dubz: I DONT THINK I KNOW ANYTHING
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: yes you do  everything i say is wrong
J E Dubz: I JUST KNOW THAT THE WHOLE WORLD ISNT MISTAKEN, AND THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT ARE RIGHT ARE YOU AND YOUR VW FRIENDS
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: i dont even watch that movie
J E Dubz: YES YOU DO
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: i havent even seen it
J E Dubz: SHUT UP
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: you shut up  
J E Dubz: listen im blocking you
J E Dubz: because you really need to just stop and think... if FWD was good... there would be FWD super cars toping the charts.
Mazda MX6 PLAYA signed off at 5:41:47 PM.



heres what happene later...



J E Dubz: and an FC3S is a turbo second gen RX-7
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: after i get my mototr they wont have shit on me
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: im gdetting  A GTR racing motor
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: with 210 stock
J E Dubz: lol
J E Dubz: GTR racing?
J E Dubz: are we talking a KL-ZE?
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: after a little tuning and a larger turbo and  about 18 psi and a shot of NOS itll run well over 300 hp
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: nope its a GTR
J E Dubz: GTR as in nissan?
J E Dubz: sr20det is 247 hp just to let you know
J E Dubz: if you have an s15 one
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: no as in mazda
J E Dubz: GT-R is nissan... its the nissan skyline badge... but okay maybe mazda just used the label in something
J E Dubz: and why do you want n20... its horrible for ur car i would never run it
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: no GTR not GT-R
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: no its not not after tuning a race motor
J E Dubz: lol yes it is... no matter what you do it's still harder on your internals
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: well you dont wanna run it all the time itll run your mototr hotter than hell
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: itl run easy 10
J E Dubz: what is the displacement on this engine u talk about
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: not sure yet
J E Dubz: lol good luck...
J E Dubz: im not trying to insult you but it seems like you are getting a little too much from F&F than pure logistics
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: after i buy it im gonna completely make it all race
J E Dubz: a 300 hp RWD silvia weighs less than an MX-6 and it wouldnt run a 10
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: no im not sure i wanna put a  shot  on
J E Dubz: and its RWD so u can count in faster
Mazda MX6 PLAYA:  but i know a lot about motors
J E Dubz: if you knew alot about them you would be calling them engines
J E Dubz: because motor means it's not powered by gas
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: no i  ont wanna type engines
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: no man listen
J E Dubz: alright... im just saying it doesnt look well when you put it like that...but okay
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: i buy the ENGINE
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: deck it all out in racing mods
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: lighten the chasis since it almost wieghs 2 tons
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: without N20
J E Dubz: omg
J E Dubz: 2 tons?
J E Dubz: 2 tons is 4,000 lbs
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: yes 3525
J E Dubz: an mx-6 is not 4,000 lbs tho
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: yes it is man
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: look in the dorr jam
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: door*
Mazda MX6 PLAYA:  i know what im talking about ,an
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: man
J E Dubz: wtf... u must have like a sack of bricks under your car to have it be 4000
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: no my car has everyhting
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: im gonna take out all the window motors and ac
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: and all the usless stuff
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: if i get the weight to  3000 at least  without nitrous itll run  close 10
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: an RX-7 can only get about 350 hp max
J E Dubz: omg
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: with stock engine
J E Dubz: lol...
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: unlees you  put a lrger turbo and boost the psi on it
J E Dubz: ummm yeah... what else would u do.. its not like your gonna get an extra 100 hp in bolt ons
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: they are so light in the rear they wont keep traction at all
J E Dubz: of course you would need more boost
J E Dubz: lol... they are touring cars
J E Dubz: do you watch option much?
J E Dubz: or any japanese GT touring
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: no
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: nope
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: why/
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: ?
J E Dubz: well you need to to understand FD potential
J E Dubz: because you have alot way off... there are plenty of rx-7s producing over 800 rwhp
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: no listen man
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: here listen
J E Dubz: im listenin
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: thta stuff is taken and rebuilt over
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: that int from man.
J E Dubz: yeah...they have new internals
J E Dubz: they are still rotary
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: who on the street has a 800 hp RX-7 rotary
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: no they are
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: they are thhe same style
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: but its all done diff
J E Dubz: omg they are all rotaries
J E Dubz: the most powerful ones are tri-rotor
J E Dubz: but they still are rotary
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: yea named rotary  but as you can see opne rotary  has 320 hp and the other has 800 hp
J E Dubz: ummm 255 is actually FD3S in over here
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: sorry
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: it was an estimate
J E Dubz: yeah but one is stock
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: ok  that is what im sayong
J E Dubz: the other one has more vicious LSD, different interneal ported everything , bigger single turbos
Mazda MX6 PLAYA:  those RACING rx's have way diff thongs done
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: the rear of those cars are weighted
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: so they stick to the  ground
J E Dubz: they have downforce provided by wings and under body lips in touring cars
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: yea duh !
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: they are also weighted in the rear
J E Dubz: and so
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: strret  rx  have none of that
J E Dubz: not all street rx-7s like re amiyamas are weighted and they can go a hell of alot faster than any FWD economy car you name
J E Dubz: weight in the rear is so easy to achieve
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: 320 hp shotting froma  stock 7 makes it hard to keep the rear down
J E Dubz: and if you watch option you understand why alot of people dont want weighted backs
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: i knw a dude with a 1998 RX7 and he is hitting over 320 and can barely keep it donw
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: back to the 6
J E Dubz:  i really dont undersand what you mean by keeping it down... areyou tlaking in drag races or in turns
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: no  leavoing the line
they fish all around
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: to much  Hp for the light  rear 7
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: back to the 6
J E Dubz: ...
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: if i dont go  with  the GTR motor i can always put and EIP tunig VR w/ TT form a Volkswagon into it
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: that is 658 hp
J E Dubz: yeah... and why would you do this to a car like the 6 is my question
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: VR6 sorry
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: why not
J E Dubz: the 6 isnt even a performance car...
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: why would you  deck out a civic?
J E Dubz: i wouldnt
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: or an eclipse
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: $$$ is the issue
J E Dubz: and eg-6 ctr's are alot more performance than a 6
J E Dubz: lol dont even compare a DSM with a 6
J E Dubz: mx-6's have nothing on ecclipse GS-X nothing ... never had anything on them and never will.
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: DUH
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: AWD
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: fuck yea
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: or a GS-T
J E Dubz: GS-t is still has way more potential than a 6
J E Dubz: we have a deckable street ride
J E Dubz: i would never try to make a car like this which is FWD, has many poor qualities, and try to turn it into a race car
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: and yeah if i threw in the VW engine  in it  it would kick it ass on thee 1/4 mile
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: 658 hp from the engine
J E Dubz: that has nothing to do with an mx-6
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: or i would go srtaight fot the GTI VR6
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: wel its a MX56 isnt
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: it?
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: MX6
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: with a VW engine
J E Dubz: umm its an mx6 body with a completely different engine and drive train
J E Dubz: how is that a 6..thats like stephen papadakis civic which is really a prelude with a civic frame on top of it
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: all thatis diff is the engine and trans
J E Dubz: and drive train to the wheels
J E Dubz: that is what a car is
J E Dubz: the only thing left besides that is metal and fiber glass for looks
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: well you know what  a VW fits right down into it all
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: so it  pretty much goes all together
J E Dubz: lol
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: why not deck out a 6?
J E Dubz: because it has crap potential
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: ok  sure
J E Dubz: we are talking about a heavy , poor suspension, FWD car
Mazda MX6 PLAYA: for a street car
J E Dubz: you arent doing street car mods... you are talking about things that you can not achieve...be realistic.. I used to be like you... until I figured out how cars work.




oh well if any of this made sense I dont care i just thought it was funny afterward..