Weight obsession - part weights on S13

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Originally Posted by SoSideways

If it's VVL then he definitely should be around 8000-8500rpm all day.

If it has a DE bottom end, then forget it, 9000rpm all day.

Well, VE's really die off hardcore on stock cams much north of the stock limit, but I can totally understand if upgraded valvetrain.

The NX initially went to 8200 IIRC with the DE and S5's. We never got a chance to really play with the rev limit on the dyno before he was sold on going vvl hehe.

WITH that said however, the VVL even with the same header and intake made better power all around and much more torque. As mucdh as I love a nice DE, the VVL is bar none the N/A 2.0 choice.

Originally Posted by racepar1

Just because you found some internet video where the z-s are spanking the s2k's does not make it universally true. From my own personal experience running track events I can assure you that it is usually the opposite of what you are claiming that is true. Let's not forget that the "Street RWD" record at buttonwillow is held by the Evasive S2K, not any z chasis. Personally I would rather own the z then the s2k, but I cannot disrespect the little Honda's capabilities.

I can totally agree to this, even with equal drivers. I too would take a Z before an S any day of the week, but when it comes to a HPDE type car, the S is 90% of the time the better car.