stealth paint

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So, me and Citizen were debating the factual use of having stealth paint.

I argued that submarine paint would work correctly at difusing radiowaves, ie. police speeding radars.

Citizen argues that radar difusing paint would not work.

if anyone can give correct, and true input, it would be great appreciated.

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Socheat Men: get marine-grade paint
Socheat Men: fuck if you get sent to fed prison
Socheat Men: Fuck the Man
AnomalyApparent: wtf is marine grade paint asshole
MjJStAnG: yah asshole
Inuyasha2049: thats what i want to know
MjJStAnG: explain
Socheat Men: its the same kinda paint you use on a submarine dipshits
MjJStAnG: and then
Socheat Men: anti-detectable
Socheat Men: ie. you can't get radar'd
AnomalyApparent: ok dipshit i work on a boat and there isnt marine grade paint
Socheat Men: regardless
AnomalyApparent: dumbfuck
Socheat Men: its not available to the public
Socheat Men: reject
MjJStAnG: u mean the same shit they put on the stealth bomber and it washed off on the first test flight in the rain, and they had to go back to the drawing boards
Socheat Men: the only way to get it is to steal it
Socheat Men: IF YOU WORK FOR THE MILITARY
Inuyasha2049: i can get a rocket launcher....
MjJStAnG: can i go to walmart and steal it
Inuyasha2049: my step dad has one
MjJStAnG: my dad got a 10 percent discount at home depot cuz he used to be in army,
MjJStAnG: does that count for anyting
Socheat Men: There were a shitload of cases back a few years
Inuyasha2049: im hungey
Socheat Men: guys got busted for using submarine paint
MjJStAnG: me too im goin to castle peac out nuccas
Socheat Men: on their cars
Socheat Men: sent to federal prison for a long time
MjJStAnG: socheat save the rest of this chat for me so i can chek up on marine paint
AnomalyApparent: so radar difusing paint
MjJStAnG: peace out
MjJStAnG has left the room.
Socheat Men: yea
Socheat Men: its got reflective microshards or whatever
AnomalyApparent: just one thing
Socheat Men: public can't get it
S14DaytonaBeach: just get a laser jammer
AnomalyApparent: they dont use radar under water you DUMBFUCK
Socheat Men: they use SONAR
Inuyasha2049: O.o
Inuyasha2049: sonar is cool
Socheat Men: SONAR works just liek radar
Socheat Men: you send out a beam
Inuyasha2049: it makes noise
Socheat Men: wait for it to reflect back
AnomalyApparent: a SOUND WAVE
Socheat Men: gives you info
Inuyasha2049: sonar works off of sound
Inuyasha2049: it send out a sound
S14DaytonaBeach: radar is radio waves
AnomalyApparent: and submarins have special hull construction to help difuse the sound
S14DaytonaBeach: sub paint is like dynamatte
Socheat Men: read up on that radar difussing paint
Socheat Men: and how about jetfighters?
AnomalyApparent: multiple layers, i.e steel, foam composite whatnot
S14DaytonaBeach: it don't work
Socheat Men: do they beam down music into the water?
Socheat Men: and wait to hear hootie and the blowfish back?
Inuyasha2049: haha
AnomalyApparent: yeah they play van halen through the sonar
Socheat Men: do cops use SOUND?
S14DaytonaBeach: most of the radar refection is from the glass
Socheat Men: do they yell "HEY! IM A COP!"
AnomalyApparent: cops use radar
Socheat Men: and wait for it to come back?
AnomalyApparent: and infrared
S14DaytonaBeach: take out your front windshield
Socheat Men: make your windshields a dull color
AnomalyApparent: that doesnt work...
Socheat Men: alot of people get out of tickets when cops use radar nowadays
Socheat Men: cuz radar isn't a stable beam\signal
Socheat Men: any kind of wave , radio, sound, etc, is the same
AnomalyApparent: if window tint helped deflect radar then all ricers would never get speeding tickets
Socheat Men: it bounces off things to give info
Socheat Men: the faster it bounces back, the faster the car
Socheat Men: okay, think about it
AnomalyApparent: no
Socheat Men: if your glass is SHINY, ti'll bounce light easy
AnomalyApparent: go fucking take a refresher in physics douche
Socheat Men: if your car is dull, it'll kind of difuse the signal, but it will get sent back
AnomalyApparent: they are diferent types of waves in diferent mediums
S14DaytonaBeach: sandblast your windshield
AnomalyApparent: that might help actually
Socheat Men: its liek a mirror
Socheat Men: if iits a whole piece, all shiny
Socheat Men: it'll reflect like no other
AnomalyApparent: ok i have a question for you
Socheat Men: if its shattered, and dull, the opposite
AnomalyApparent: can you listen to radio in an office building?
Socheat Men: i wouldn't know
S14DaytonaBeach: no
Socheat Men: i don't work in an office building
AnomalyApparent: yes you do, dont evade the question
AnomalyApparent: lets say a green house then
AnomalyApparent: yes you can
Socheat Men: how do you know i work at a office?
AnomalyApparent: therefore we know radio waves travel through glass
Socheat Men: i work at a hotel
Socheat Men: okay, think about it
Socheat Men: are glasshouses shiny?
AnomalyApparent: and you are a moron as well, have any other thing you want to point out?
thisboybeflossin: greeenhouses
Socheat Men: okay, so infrared is able to go thru windows, right?
Socheat Men: most kind of waves go thru windows
Socheat Men: but they become dead, or less audible
AnomalyApparent: and your point?
Socheat Men: its like that with waves
AnomalyApparent: and i dont believe glass affects radio waves
Socheat Men: with certain surfaces, the signal is scattered
AnomalyApparent: diferent materials affect diferent wavelengths
Socheat Men: exactly
AnomalyApparent: so making the glass a darker color isnt going to affect radio waves
Socheat Men: different chemical compounds aid in deadening sound\waves
Socheat Men: who said anythin about darker?
AnomalyApparent: you said make it duller
Socheat Men: by duller, i mean toemitting or reflecting very little light
Socheat Men: look up dull
Socheat Men: i didn't mean "get dark tint"
AnomalyApparent: that's not gonna affect radio waves
Socheat Men: i meant to make it less shiny, less reflective
AnomalyApparent: because they are a diferent wavelength
Socheat Men: say you shoot a laser at a mirror
Socheat Men: it'll make a direct beam in the opposed direction
Socheat Men: if you did that to a dull, non reflective mirror, in pieces, your guess at where the laser would be jsut asa good as mine
AnomalyApparent: i could tell you exactly where the laser would be actually
AnomalyApparent: so whats your point
Socheat Men: you could assume whiich area it'd b at
Socheat Men: but you wouldn't be right on the dot
AnomalyApparent: no i wouldnt assume, because i could calculate where its gonna go
Socheat Men: so, the radar wouldn't come back directly to the gun being pointed
AnomalyApparent: angle of incidence and optical density of the material
Socheat Men: as, since there are other cars around, chances are it'll reflect off them also
AnomalyApparent: radar or laser choose one
AnomalyApparent: you're confusing the issue by adding in more variables
S14DaytonaBeach: http://www.beltronics.com/lp905.html
AnomalyApparent: stick to one thing
Socheat Men: aren't we talkin about reflection?
AnomalyApparent: thats what you are talking about
Socheat Men: reflection deals no just with bouncy surfaces
Socheat Men: its like saying cars are only engines and wheels
AnomalyApparent: and whats your point?
Socheat Men: other variables come into play when you talk about things as complexed as reflection
AnomalyApparent: reflection isnt complex, unless you've never studied it
Socheat Men: the basic "BillyBob" explaination is "if its a flat 180degree surface, it'll reflect the opposite degree"
Socheat Men: are there any parts on your car body thats exactly 180degrees?
AnomalyApparent: yes actually
Socheat Men: and damn you DB, you didn't actually post HOW it works
AnomalyApparent: any spot on your car can be perpendicular to a laser depending ion the angle of incidence
AnomalyApparent: and i can tell you how that thing works
Socheat Men: there are few parts on your car that are 180degrees on a T in comparison to the rest of the auto body
AnomalyApparent: it sends out a a beam with the same wavelength of the laser and they either cancel eacher other out or amplify each other depending on the phase
AnomalyApparent: again whats your point
Socheat Men: say youv'e got a convexed trunk
Socheat Men: reflection wouldn't work the same
AnomalyApparent: yes it would
Socheat Men: explain miss
AnomalyApparent: the only thing that matters is angle of incidence and optical density to any one point on the trunk
Socheat Men: no it wouldn't
Socheat Men: you are simplifying this way too much
AnomalyApparent: as long as one point on the trunk is around 90 degrees to the source of the beam it will get reflected back
Socheat Men: you just proved yourself wrong
AnomalyApparent: how so
Socheat Men: you stated earlier that if ti was convexed, it'd still beam the same way back
AnomalyApparent: thats what i just said
Socheat Men: now you jsut say "if theres a part thats 90degrees, it'll work"
AnomalyApparent: thats what i just said
Socheat Men: think about it
Socheat Men: look up convexed
AnomalyApparent: i know what it means
Socheat Men: it reflects things and captures things differently
Socheat Men: am i right?
AnomalyApparent: no
Socheat Men: wtf
Socheat Men: explain convexed then
AnomalyApparent: just as long as any ONE point or area on the trunk is perpendicular to the source of the beam it will get reflected back
AnomalyApparent: convex curved outwards
Socheat Men: explain convexed throughoutly
AnomalyApparent: thats what it means
Socheat Men: thouroughly*
Socheat Men: okay, now explain how it reflects, and refracts
AnomalyApparent: Having a surface or boundary that curves or bulges outward, as the exterior of a sphere.
AnomalyApparent: direct from the dictionary asshole
Socheat Men: okay, now if you beamed a wave at a ball
Socheat Men: would it come back to you?
Socheat Men: no
AnomalyApparent: in regards to a mirror, a lens, a random piece of wood what
Socheat Men: it'd beam in a different location
AnomalyApparent: you did see what i said
Inuyasha2049 has entered the room.
AnomalyApparent: JUST AS LONG AS ANY ONE POINT OR AREA ON THE THING IS PERPENDICULAR TO THE SOURCE OF THE BEAM IT WILL REFLECT BACK AT IT
AnomalyApparent: read it, live it, learn it
Socheat Men: ONE POINT
AnomalyApparent: it doesnt matter what the shape is
Socheat Men: now if you had that special paint
Socheat Men: which is microparticles of metallic shards, you wouldn't have to deal with that
Inuyasha2049: cuz it would absorb the beam?
AnomalyApparent: there aint nothing you can do to totally absorb the beam
Socheat Men: not absorb, weaken
Inuyasha2049: ok well distort the beam
Socheat Men: there you go
AnomalyApparent: it doesnt distort the beam
Socheat Men: it changes it direction
AnomalyApparent: no it doesnt
Socheat Men: read up on difusing paint
Inuyasha2049: i think the only way to find out for sure is to try it out
Socheat Men: the kind submarince use
AnomalyApparent: you read up on physics
AnomalyApparent: they dont use difusing paint
Socheat Men: you didnt' even know about it
Socheat Men: you tard
Socheat Men: read up on it
Inuyasha2049: poo!!!!!!!!!!
Inuyasha2049: :-D
Socheat Men: research the cases of incidence
Socheat Men: then come back
AnomalyApparent: they use special construction and coatings to help difuse sound waves
Socheat Men: you idiot, PAINT!
Socheat Men: DO COPS USE SOUND?
AnomalyApparent: no they dont
Socheat Men: GET THAT THRU YOUR HEAD
Socheat Men: NO!
AnomalyApparent: so what IS YOUR POINT
Socheat Men: THEY USE RADIOWAVES
Inuyasha2049: .drama sucks
Socheat Men: IT DOESN'T HAVE TO DIFUSE, IT JUST HAS TO DEFLECT THE SIGNAL AND REROUTE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE
AnomalyApparent: THAT DOESNT HAPPEN
Socheat Men: OKAY, LEMME EXPLAIN SUBMARINE PAINT
Socheat Men: ITS NOT SOLID COLORPIGMENTS TO GIVE NICE CLEAN SHINY
AnomalyApparent: tell me in you ALL KNOWING ALL SEEING jackass
AnomalyApparent: how does color affect sound again?
Socheat Men: ITS MICROPARTICLES OF METALLIC SHARDS, INTO A CHEMICAL COMPOUND
Socheat Men: IN TERMS OF REFLECTING SOUND, IT DOESN'T HAPPEN
Socheat Men: BUT WHEN IT COMES TO REFLECTING RADIOWAVES, IT DOES
AnomalyApparent: all waves observe the same laws
Socheat Men: yes, but other variables change things up
AnomalyApparent: no
Socheat Men: in terms of cars, other obstructions
AnomalyApparent: in terms of you dont know jack and are trying to formulate a scapegoat for your lack of understanding
Socheat Men: omg
Socheat Men: you are an idiot
Socheat Men: tahts like saying, if i aim at his head iwht a gun, it will hit him
Socheat Men: even if there are walls and stuff in the way
AnomalyApparent: depends on the types of walls
Socheat Men: STONE WALLS
AnomalyApparent: you could have those crazy japanese paper walls
Socheat Men: CONCRETE WALLS
Socheat Men: PEOPLE
AnomalyApparent: depends on how buig a gun you are using
Socheat Men: now you are just being stupid
Socheat Men: you were just proven wrong
AnomalyApparent: how was i proven wrong?
Socheat Men: and you said variables don't count
Socheat Men: y are you tryin "if you had a big gun"
Socheat Men: or "if the walls are paper thin"
AnomalyApparent: this was a diferent situation disregarding waves, and i believe those were valid points
Socheat Men: http://science.howstuffworks.com/laser.htm
Socheat Men: read that
Socheat Men: you'll learn how lasers work
Socheat Men: then look up radar
Inuyasha2049 has left the room.
AnomalyApparent: i know how a laser works
S14DaytonaBeach: http://www.radarbusters.com/products/coatings/veil.asp
Socheat Men: lasers are built to obtain better consistancy, less room for error
AnomalyApparent: in fact i could tell you without looking at that
Socheat Men: read that sir
AnomalyApparent: radar works by causing a cascading photon release from a gas by electricaly exciting them and then focusing the photons so that when they exit the chamber they form a paralell cohesive beam
thisboybeflossin: damn
thisboybeflossin: sitll talking about that?
thisboybeflossin: shesh
Socheat Men: read that FAQ
Socheat Men: you are strange...
AnomalyApparent: i highly dont that shit works s14
Socheat Men: and you base that opinion on what?
AnomalyApparent: on basic physics and my bullshit sense
Socheat Men: give everyone an indepth summary of y you believe that wont' work
AnomalyApparent: i've already explained it
AnomalyApparent: and my bs sense says they dont have any scientific tests
Socheat Men: you jsut said if its a flat surface
Socheat Men: it'd reflect
Socheat Men: now if it had texture also, would that work as well
Socheat Men: ?
AnomalyApparent: it doesnt matter what the surface is as long as any one point or area is perpendicular to the angle of incidence
Socheat Men: VARIABLES RETARD
AnomalyApparent: can you prove im a retard?
Socheat Men: you are talkin out of our ass
Socheat Men: say its "flat"
AnomalyApparent: and
AnomalyApparent: you paint it with some shit, its still flat
Socheat Men: but has metallic shards compounded into the paint
AnomalyApparent: metallic shards of what? ubotanium?
S14DaytonaBeach: My oakles have that
Socheat Men: do you think im the creator of the paint retard?
Socheat Men: reflective metal shards
AnomalyApparent: which happen to not work?
Socheat Men: a shitload of shards will pwn that beam like hell
AnomalyApparent: such scientific and thoughtful language
AnomalyApparent: are you a professor or something?
Socheat Men: okay, read up on that submarine paint
AnomalyApparent: i dont need to
Socheat Men: nope, your average everyday kid
AnomalyApparent: and as an average everyday kid you dont know what you're taling about
Socheat Men: and you are the expert?
AnomalyApparent: it would seem that i know more than you
Socheat Men: how about we post this up on zilvia, and have some folks that actually deal with military give their knowledge
Socheat Men: right...
AnomalyApparent: i never claimed to be an expert
Socheat Men: "if there is a flat surface, it'll work"
AnomalyApparent: how about you give it to a physics prof and see what they say
Socheat Men: now the variables include the surface itself
thisboybeflossin: surface must be flat
Socheat Men: reflective index
AnomalyApparent: unless the sufrace converts the energy from the beam into something else its gonna be reflected
Socheat Men: now if you had those metal shards in the actual paint
thisboybeflossin: what is green?
Socheat Men: the signal would be distorted
AnomalyApparent: WRANG
AnomalyApparent: you dont fucking trandsuce waves with "little metal shards in paint"
AnomalyApparent: transduce
Socheat Men: okay, now if it was 100% proven, wouldn't you wanna keep that HUSHHUSH?
AnomalyApparent: if what was "100% proven"
thisboybeflossin: haha
AnomalyApparent: that you dont have a clue?
AnomalyApparent: that you didnt pay attention in physics?
Socheat Men: that it would officially allow you to "stealth" your car
AnomalyApparent: THAT DOESNT WORK
Socheat Men: and how do you know?
Socheat Men: have you used it?
AnomalyApparent: there is NOTHING that is complete stealth to radar
Socheat Men: hve you compared with a cop?
thisboybeflossin: that is some dubm thigns they sell on there
Socheat Men: no one says its completely stealth
AnomalyApparent: aint nothing you can do to get its radar crosssection low enough to wear it would be undetectable
Socheat Men: it would wear down the beam
thisboybeflossin: GOOGLE
Socheat Men: to not have 100% consistancy
Socheat Men: therefore, it wouldn't be 100% accurate
AnomalyApparent: again wtf are you talking about
Inuyasha2049: i could ask my step dad
Socheat Men: ask him
Inuyasha2049: ok
Socheat Men: lets post this on zilvia
Socheat Men: whats your zilvia handle?
AnomalyApparent: citizen
Socheat Men: as per DB's request, lets search first
Inuyasha2049: sorry....there is no way of stopping the radar
AnomalyApparent: go search and come back when you've learned something
AnomalyApparent: what is your step dad btw?
Inuyasha2049: lt
Inuyasha2049: a cop
Inuyasha2049: LT
AnomalyApparent: ok
Inuyasha2049: but yea
Socheat Men: search up those federal arrests on behalf of the government
AnomalyApparent: snopes.com

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