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92sidewaysS13 · 11-28-2006, 11:39 PM

i got a s13 with dohc ka. i am looking at this kit and know i need a fuel pump and intercooler in addition to the kit, as well as maybe a z32 maf. the thing im concerned with is the turbo. its a 20g. is that too big? i want to stay on stock internals for now (rebuilt to stock with 30k on it). i only want about 240 or so wheel. but i want spool low since why have a long spool time but not a huge kick up top. would a 16 or 18g be better? or would the 20g be ok. any help would be great. i tried searching for info about this kit and turbo and could not find anything. thanks again

Jung918 · 11-28-2006, 11:52 PM

The greddy turbo kit is made for the s14, but I am sure it could fit the s13 with a little work. There are better companies out there that make turbo kits for your car.
I am piecing mine together.

!Zar! · 11-29-2006, 02:43 AM

I'd suggest piecing a kit together.

The td06120g isn't a fast spooler. So no matter what psi you set, it's still not going to have alot of kick real low.

I say try for a t28, ebay fmic, 555 injectors, fuel management and a log manifold.

The greddy kit will work on a s13. It's their fmic that might need some hand fitting.

Jung918 · 11-29-2006, 10:13 AM

I would say stand alone, GT32, equal length manifold, oil cooler, front mount, all an fittings, etc etc

sccrstar011 · 11-29-2006, 10:32 AM

From what I have read about putting a turbo on a KA you definately need to get bigger fuel injectors. A lot of people go to the 370cc injectors that come off of a stock SR (correct me if I'm wrong). If all else fails there is a site www.ka-t.org that deals specifically with turboing ka's and those guys seem to know their stuff.

*ManoNegra* · 11-29-2006, 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !Zar!

I'd suggest piecing a kit together.

The td06120g isn't a fast spooler. So no matter what psi you set, it's still not going to have alot of kick real low.

I say try for a t28, ebay fmic, 555 injectors, fuel management and a log manifold.

The greddy kit will work on a s13. It's their fmic that might need some hand fitting.

Best advice on thread. I would suggest a cheap tubular manifold instead though.

waynehead05 · 11-29-2006, 12:07 PM

^ only if you add in a flex section.

seems that the gt32 is damn near the perfect turbo for a street/track ka.
one gripe i have though is that 555's are overkill for 240whp.

370 will do just fine for that.

PITCH · 11-29-2006, 01:00 PM

gt32. Nice spool for a 2.4 .That's what I was going to go with. A friend of mine said I should go with a external wasgated turbo. Why is this?

trsilvias13 · 11-29-2006, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sccrstar011

From what I have read about putting a turbo on a KA you definately need to get bigger fuel injectors. A lot of people go to the 370cc injectors that come off of a stock SR (correct me if I'm wrong). If all else fails there is a site www.ka-t.org that deals specifically with turboing ka's and those guys seem to know their stuff.

IF all else fail? hell no.. go there FIRST.. there is such a great amount of knowledge on that board about ka-t. Those guys almost everything if not all coverd. A lot of helpful people there as well. And if you have a hard time looking for a ka-t kit, go there. There so much resource there.

Jung918 · 11-29-2006, 02:38 PM

Spend as much as you can on engine managment and tuning.

92sidewaysS13 · 11-29-2006, 10:41 PM

yeah the greddy kit comes with 370cc injectors as well as emanage. the only reason i am condidering kit is 1. obviously greddy is great quality, and i get dealer price so thats why i was considering it. thanx for all the advice i have researched quite a bit but still a lot of work left

***S14DB*** · 11-29-2006, 11:43 PM

Greddy kit is crap. Horrible turbine housing that always surges. They tune on the eManage is worthless and you'll have to blow it away anyways on the S13.

You would be better off with a KA T25 manifold, a used T25/28, SR Outlet and DP, Used 370's, z32 MAF and a AEM EMS.

Then upgrade the injectors and turbo as you get money.

punxva · 11-30-2006, 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S14DB

Greddy kit is crap. Horrible turbine housing that always surges. They tune on the eManage is worthless and you'll have to blow it away anyways on the S13.

You would be better off with a KA T25 manifold, a used T25/28, SR Outlet and DP, Used 370's, z32 MAF and a AEM EMS.

Then upgrade the injectors and turbo as you get money.

best idea on here, since tis what im doing...

!Zar! · 11-30-2006, 12:48 AM

Yup, td06 20g is all to well known to boost creep with the internal wastgate.

It's a high power turbo, only problem is that it isn't efficent untill 20+psi iirc.

*downshift_sideways* · 11-30-2006, 12:52 AM

My setup...Iwant.:

s13 SR blacktop.
Ebay Front mount piping hehe
Spearcro Intercooler
550 injectors
hks wastegate
boost controller
t28 turbo.

What I have so far:
s13 SRblacktop
t28 turbo,
Fmic and Piping
370cc injectors.

lols...Give me another week, and I'll be at my lil set goal.

Uisce · 11-30-2006, 12:03 PM

As someone else said already, go to KA-T.org for the real knowledge.

My setup is SSA (tubular bottom-mount) manifold, SR T28, SR outlet, custom downpipe, SR sidemount and pipes (a little fitment work needed, but nothing a hacksaw and a big-rig radiator hose can't fix), SR 370cc injectors, a walbro pump, and an SAFC. We just gathered a bunch of crap from my friend's garage and mixed it with the crap in my garage, and we had almost everything we needed. Total cost was less than $500.

I threw all that in almost two years ago, retarded base timing 4 degrees, tuned to 11-11.5:1 afr with my wideband, and it has run 7 psi without so much as even a hiccup ever since. Not a single problem.

Instant boost (almost feels NA, actually) and WAY better than stock power, for a day's work and a few hundred dollars.

EVERYONE should do this, IMO. For the cost of ONE bling wheel and a day of work, you can bolt-on a reliable 75-100 whp. It makes the car feel like what it should have been stock.

wootwoot · 11-30-2006, 02:15 PM

Is the Greddy kit CARB? That is the only reason I can see for purchasing it in anyway

drew935 · 11-30-2006, 02:20 PM

As for the emanage on the S13 it has to be reflashed. I remember Kenji saying that before. If the mani was better and had a gt32 then maybe it would be a better kit. Are you also looking at it since it is a kit not pieced together as well as for the carb#...?

Jung918 · 11-30-2006, 07:59 PM

As far as I know, it is still carb pending. So that doesn't really mean anything.

!Zar! · 12-01-2006, 02:11 AM

The greddy kit never has been/ never will be legal in cali.

It's been pending since what, 93?

TooFartyS14 · 12-01-2006, 03:15 AM

greddy kit is crap dont waste your money on that .......

this is my current setup:

ebay fmic
ebay t25/t28 manifold
t28
370
walbro 255
stock maf
q-garage.com ecu

pics:

and this is what it made on dyno

Uisce · 12-01-2006, 02:44 PM

Nice dyno sheet! Stock wastegate boost?

TooFartyS14 · 12-01-2006, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uisce

Nice dyno sheet! Stock wastegate boost?

HKS actuator set at 9psi

92sidewaysS13 · 12-01-2006, 11:41 PM

thank you for all the info guys. will a gt28 from a rb26dett bolt up to same mani everyone is using?? cause the shop im with has 2 of em just sitting. (that would be because of the rb26 with t88 s14 we're building

)

*downshift_sideways* · 12-01-2006, 11:59 PM

toofartys14

"this is my current setup:

ebay fmic
ebay t25/t28 manifold
t28
370
walbro 255
stock maf
q-garage.com ecu"

thats a nice dyno sheet with that setup. You got me all juiiced about mine now haha.

motorsporttc · 12-02-2006, 12:27 AM

HI I was wondering if I could use SR20DET injectors with the greddy turbo kit instead of using the supplied greddy 370cc injectors, fuel rail, and relocate the FPR. Seems easier to just swap in SR20 injectors since it's a direct plug and play.

Jung918 · 12-02-2006, 05:32 AM

Doesn't the injectors come with the kit? The SR ones will fit, but taking the fuel rail off is not fun.

motorsporttc · 12-02-2006, 12:30 PM

yeah RC 370cc injectors come with teh kit but they're topfeed so greddy supplies a new fuel rail and you have to relocate the FPR, I was thinking of just runnig the greddy kit but instead just swapping in SR20 injectors so I don't have to swap fuel rails and such. just seeing if it would be ok. seems like it would work out though.

willcheung · 12-11-2006, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TooFartyS14

greddy kit is crap dont waste your money on that .......

this is my current setup:

ebay fmic
ebay t25/t28 manifold
t28
370
walbro 255
stock maf
q-garage.com ecu

pics:

and this is what it made on dyno

How much money you spent total?

TooFartyS14 · 12-11-2006, 07:14 PM

originaly 1600 but then i found a t28 w/hks actuator so around 1800

11-28-2006, 11:39 PM	#1
92sidewaysS13 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NJ Age: 37 Posts: 46 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Greddy turbo kit for KA i got a s13 with dohc ka. i am looking at this kit and know i need a fuel pump and intercooler in addition to the kit, as well as maybe a z32 maf. the thing im concerned with is the turbo. its a 20g. is that too big? i want to stay on stock internals for now (rebuilt to stock with 30k on it). i only want about 240 or so wheel. but i want spool low since why have a long spool time but not a huge kick up top. would a 16 or 18g be better? or would the 20g be ok. any help would be great. i tried searching for info about this kit and turbo and could not find anything. thanks again

11-28-2006, 11:52 PM	#2
Jung918 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: CA Posts: 3,203 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	The greddy turbo kit is made for the s14, but I am sure it could fit the s13 with a little work. There are better companies out there that make turbo kits for your car. I am piecing mine together. __________________ Sale: Hello Kitty Horn Button S14 Rear Valences K.Y. Gordon the Thief (Tony Chen)

11-29-2006, 02:43 AM	#3
!Zar! Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,579 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	I'd suggest piecing a kit together. The td06120g isn't a fast spooler. So no matter what psi you set, it's still not going to have alot of kick real low. I say try for a t28, ebay fmic, 555 injectors, fuel management and a log manifold. The greddy kit will work on a s13. It's their fmic that might need some hand fitting. __________________

11-29-2006, 10:13 AM	#4
Jung918 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: CA Posts: 3,203 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	I would say stand alone, GT32, equal length manifold, oil cooler, front mount, all an fittings, etc etc __________________ Sale: Hello Kitty Horn Button S14 Rear Valences K.Y. Gordon the Thief (Tony Chen)

11-29-2006, 12:07 PM	#7
waynehead05 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2005 Location: Dallas Age: 38 Posts: 466 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	^ only if you add in a flex section. seems that the gt32 is damn near the perfect turbo for a street/track ka. one gripe i have though is that 555's are overkill for 240whp. 370 will do just fine for that. __________________ Who in their right mind would want to lead this nation of Me-First Right-Now Do Nothings??

11-29-2006, 10:32 AM	#5
sccrstar011 Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: lynchburg, virginia Age: 38 Posts: 83 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	From what I have read about putting a turbo on a KA you definately need to get bigger fuel injectors. A lot of people go to the 370cc injectors that come off of a stock SR (correct me if I'm wrong). If all else fails there is a site www.ka-t.org that deals specifically with turboing ka's and those guys seem to know their stuff.

11-29-2006, 01:00 PM	#8
PITCH Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: GA Age: 43 Posts: 1,103 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	gt32. Nice spool for a 2.4 .That's what I was going to go with. A friend of mine said I should go with a external wasgated turbo. Why is this? __________________

11-29-2006, 02:38 PM	#10
Jung918 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: CA Posts: 3,203 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Spend as much as you can on engine managment and tuning. __________________ Sale: Hello Kitty Horn Button S14 Rear Valences K.Y. Gordon the Thief (Tony Chen)

11-29-2006, 10:41 PM	#11
92sidewaysS13 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NJ Age: 37 Posts: 46 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeah the greddy kit comes with 370cc injectors as well as emanage. the only reason i am condidering kit is 1. obviously greddy is great quality, and i get dealer price so thats why i was considering it. thanx for all the advice i have researched quite a bit but still a lot of work left

11-29-2006, 11:43 PM	#12
*S14DB* AFC #1 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: 昨晩あなたのお母さんの家 Posts: 20,181 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Greddy kit is crap. Horrible turbine housing that always surges. They tune on the eManage is worthless and you'll have to blow it away anyways on the S13. You would be better off with a KA T25 manifold, a used T25/28, SR Outlet and DP, Used 370's, z32 MAF and a AEM EMS. Then upgrade the injectors and turbo as you get money. __________________ Comments should be taken as Opinions not as Statements of Fact

11-30-2006, 12:48 AM	#14
!Zar! Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,579 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	Yup, td06 20g is all to well known to boost creep with the internal wastgate. It's a high power turbo, only problem is that it isn't efficent untill 20+psi iirc. __________________

11-30-2006, 12:52 AM	#15
downshift_sideways No Limit Soldier. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hayward CA, San Gabriel CA Age: 38 Posts: 5,550 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: downshift_sideways Feedback Score: 0 reviews	My setup...Iwant.: s13 SR blacktop. Ebay Front mount piping hehe Spearcro Intercooler 550 injectors hks wastegate boost controller t28 turbo. What I have so far: s13 SRblacktop t28 turbo, Fmic and Piping 370cc injectors. lols...Give me another week, and I'll be at my lil set goal. __________________ allntrlundrgrnd: "you never really appreciate your parents fridge until you look into your own and its full of condiments only"

11-30-2006, 12:03 PM	#16
Uisce Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: So Cal Posts: 116 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	As someone else said already, go to KA-T.org for the real knowledge. My setup is SSA (tubular bottom-mount) manifold, SR T28, SR outlet, custom downpipe, SR sidemount and pipes (a little fitment work needed, but nothing a hacksaw and a big-rig radiator hose can't fix), SR 370cc injectors, a walbro pump, and an SAFC. We just gathered a bunch of crap from my friend's garage and mixed it with the crap in my garage, and we had almost everything we needed. Total cost was less than $500. I threw all that in almost two years ago, retarded base timing 4 degrees, tuned to 11-11.5:1 afr with my wideband, and it has run 7 psi without so much as even a hiccup ever since. Not a single problem. Instant boost (almost feels NA, actually) and WAY better than stock power, for a day's work and a few hundred dollars. EVERYONE should do this, IMO. For the cost of ONE bling wheel and a day of work, you can bolt-on a reliable 75-100 whp. It makes the car feel like what it should have been stock. __________________ Brian Reilly Land Ho!! - Original Pirate Drift

11-30-2006, 02:15 PM	#17
wootwoot Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: sarasota florida biatch Age: 39 Posts: 3,850 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Is the Greddy kit CARB? That is the only reason I can see for purchasing it in anyway __________________ I'm from Florida so I'm probably a bit more strange than you

11-30-2006, 02:20 PM	#18
drew935 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Silver Creek - San Jose Posts: 996 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	As for the emanage on the S13 it has to be reflashed. I remember Kenji saying that before. If the mani was better and had a gt32 then maybe it would be a better kit. Are you also looking at it since it is a kit not pieced together as well as for the carb#...? __________________ I'm driving fast -drew

11-30-2006, 07:59 PM	#19
Jung918 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: CA Posts: 3,203 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	As far as I know, it is still carb pending. So that doesn't really mean anything. __________________ Sale: Hello Kitty Horn Button S14 Rear Valences K.Y. Gordon the Thief (Tony Chen)

12-01-2006, 02:11 AM	#20
!Zar! Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: North Korea Posts: 14,579 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	The greddy kit never has been/ never will be legal in cali. It's been pending since what, 93? __________________

12-01-2006, 03:15 AM	#21
TooFartyS14 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Houston Age: 41 Posts: 54 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	greddy kit is crap dont waste your money on that ....... this is my current setup: ebay fmic ebay t25/t28 manifold t28 370 walbro 255 stock maf q-garage.com ecu pics: and this is what it made on dyno __________________ Ron Image Exceeded Forum Limits

12-01-2006, 02:44 PM	#22
Uisce Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: So Cal Posts: 116 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Nice dyno sheet! Stock wastegate boost? __________________ Brian Reilly Land Ho!! - Original Pirate Drift

12-01-2006, 11:41 PM	#24
92sidewaysS13 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: NJ Age: 37 Posts: 46 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thank you for all the info guys. will a gt28 from a rb26dett bolt up to same mani everyone is using?? cause the shop im with has 2 of em just sitting. (that would be because of the rb26 with t88 s14 we're building )

12-01-2006, 11:59 PM	#25
downshift_sideways No Limit Soldier. Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hayward CA, San Gabriel CA Age: 38 Posts: 5,550 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: downshift_sideways Feedback Score: 0 reviews	toofartys14 "this is my current setup: ebay fmic ebay t25/t28 manifold t28 370 walbro 255 stock maf q-garage.com ecu" thats a nice dyno sheet with that setup. You got me all juiiced about mine now haha. __________________ allntrlundrgrnd: "you never really appreciate your parents fridge until you look into your own and its full of condiments only"

12-02-2006, 12:27 AM	#26
motorsporttc Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bay area Posts: 62 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	HI I was wondering if I could use SR20DET injectors with the greddy turbo kit instead of using the supplied greddy 370cc injectors, fuel rail, and relocate the FPR. Seems easier to just swap in SR20 injectors since it's a direct plug and play.

12-02-2006, 05:32 AM	#27
Jung918 Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: CA Posts: 3,203 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	Doesn't the injectors come with the kit? The SR ones will fit, but taking the fuel rail off is not fun. __________________ Sale: Hello Kitty Horn Button S14 Rear Valences K.Y. Gordon the Thief (Tony Chen)

12-02-2006, 12:30 PM	#28
motorsporttc Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bay area Posts: 62 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	yeah RC 370cc injectors come with teh kit but they're topfeed so greddy supplies a new fuel rail and you have to relocate the FPR, I was thinking of just runnig the greddy kit but instead just swapping in SR20 injectors so I don't have to swap fuel rails and such. just seeing if it would be ok. seems like it would work out though.

12-11-2006, 07:14 PM	#30
TooFartyS14 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Houston Age: 41 Posts: 54 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	originaly 1600 but then i found a t28 w/hks actuator so around 1800 __________________ Ron Image Exceeded Forum Limits

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