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intense240sx · 03-20-2007, 10:48 PM

well i went to get my alignment down the other day. the mechanic told me that my suspension is bad because of my rims. the guy told me since i've been driving with my new rims for like a year already, it messed up my cambers. the offset is 17x9 +25. he said that i need a new toe arm because i'm stretching the stock one or something. he says i need a longer or an extended toe arm or otherwise my cambers will keep going bad quick and my tires will eat up. he said to get it right will cost over 1k, so i was like damn! he said or i can just go back to stock rims and everything will be ok. is this true or is he lying and try to get money from me?

Brian · 03-20-2007, 10:49 PM

Reading this really annoyed me.

Dousan_PG · 03-20-2007, 10:51 PM

hes a fucking liar and a shit head

go somewhere else.

!Zar! · 03-20-2007, 10:53 PM

Wow. Reading that makes me feel drunk.

The dude is a douche. Kick him in the cooch.

intense240sx · 03-20-2007, 11:07 PM

sorry if you guys feel annoyed by my question, it's just i didn't know that the toe arm can make my tires eat up. i thought if i just got a camber kit, it'll be okay.

abunai the drifter · 03-20-2007, 11:18 PM

hes full shit your wheels have notheing to do with your tie rods unless you curb your car then you'll need a new tie rod yes if you have bad toe your tiers will wear fast camber kit will help but not a solution to your problem get an alignment

***FaLKoN240*** · 03-20-2007, 11:19 PM

Why don't you start with telling us your suspension(s) and we'll go from there.

illvialuver · 03-20-2007, 11:21 PM

WOW, suspensions....
and that made me feel like I was drunk.

A Spec Products · 03-21-2007, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by intense240sx

sorry if you guys feel annoyed by my question, it's just i didn't know that the toe arm can make my tires eat up. i thought if i just got a camber kit, it'll be okay.

It's not a Honda, we dont have "camber kits" haha

Nah but your stock toe arm should be able to max out and be able to zero out even if you are really slammed.

Mainly I would suggest getting an adjustable aftermarket RUCA so you can pull back some camber.

And get a new alignment guy, that's a pretty absurd statement, not sure where he came up with the $1000 figure. I mean I guess if you bought all aftermarket arms (and I mean ALL) + got it aligned (labor), it would cost that much.

If he can't get you zero toe and 1.5-2 degrees camber with an aftermarket RUCA + stock toe rod running 17x9+25s, I'm not sure what to tell you.

kdashy · 03-21-2007, 12:06 AM

Definitely start by never going to this guy again.

A Spec Products · 03-21-2007, 12:09 AM

Sorry but I love the sentence "it messed up my cambers."

Dunno why.

DoriftoPnoy · 03-21-2007, 12:17 AM

i think the $1000 statement comes from "im the mechanic and i more than you. so i will charge you for a part that only costs 200 bucks and you pay 800 for labor. sucker..." I went to some ridiculous shop like that. Good thing i have zilvia to inform me about suspensions. I.E. Suspension FAQ.

kdashy · 03-21-2007, 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A Spec Products

Sorry but I love the sentence "it messed up my cambers."

Dunno why.

The mass use of plurals is always amusing.

OptionZero · 03-21-2007, 12:51 AM

is that how they spell things in "daygo"?

intense240sx · 03-21-2007, 12:58 AM

well i got hks springs. the car is lowered about 1.5. i thought he might try to scam me so good thing i came here. i'ma go try another shop.

axiomatik · 03-21-2007, 07:35 AM

personally, i would only get one suspension per car.

buton a serious note, he's trying to scam you.

Jefferson · 03-21-2007, 11:49 AM

wow is all I can say
You need a new alignment guy asap
"go back to stock wheels and everything will be OK" I would have punched him in the face for saying shit like that

But like Logan said you should be able to set toe to zero with factory components especially if you only have 1.5" drop

drift freaq · 03-21-2007, 12:46 PM

I don't know what to fault more. Your English grammar which is so bad it makes my head hurt or the shop tech that just either is a complete idiot or straight up lied to you. First off, please make an attempt at proper grammar so we can read and understand your question. Second off do not go back to that alignment tech.

LB.Motoring · 03-21-2007, 01:04 PM

azndoc · 03-21-2007, 01:08 PM

Wow I just save a bunch of money by switching to Zilvia.net lol yeah no go on that $1000 job buddy. Such a scam.

cleantune · 03-21-2007, 01:31 PM

That guy in the shop is lying and trying to rip you off. You do not need new toe arms. If your rear tires toe -in then your tire wear might be increased. This is because the tires are working against each other. Good for cornering though!

intense240sx · 03-21-2007, 01:44 PM

aright thanks for the help guys. Sorry for my grammer, i didn't think i was in zilvia high school. simple slang of words doesn't hurt, i'm still a "youngin". haha. next time i'll fix my grammer.

A Spec Products · 03-21-2007, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by intense240sx

aright thanks for the help guys. Sorry for my grammer, i didn't think i was in zilvia high school. simple slang of words doesn't hurt, i'm still a "youngin". haha. next time i'll fix my grammer.

Don't listen to them playa haters

Keep speaking in slang

I do it all the time

Sam Daygo is the place to be

Speaking of Daygo...I was trying to find the link to that new E-40 song....

SHE'S A DAYGO! DAYGO DENZEL! DAYGO R KEL! LOL

03-20-2007, 10:48 PM	#1
intense240sx Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 117 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	do i need new suspensions? well i went to get my alignment down the other day. the mechanic told me that my suspension is bad because of my rims. the guy told me since i've been driving with my new rims for like a year already, it messed up my cambers. the offset is 17x9 +25. he said that i need a new toe arm because i'm stretching the stock one or something. he says i need a longer or an extended toe arm or otherwise my cambers will keep going bad quick and my tires will eat up. he said to get it right will cost over 1k, so i was like damn! he said or i can just go back to stock rims and everything will be ok. is this true or is he lying and try to get money from me?

03-20-2007, 10:49 PM	#2
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03-20-2007, 10:53 PM	#4
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03-20-2007, 11:07 PM	#5
intense240sx Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 117 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	sorry if you guys feel annoyed by my question, it's just i didn't know that the toe arm can make my tires eat up. i thought if i just got a camber kit, it'll be okay.

03-20-2007, 11:18 PM	#6
abunai the drifter Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Long Beach CA Age: 39 Posts: 392 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	hes full shit your wheels have notheing to do with your tie rods unless you curb your car then you'll need a new tie rod yes if you have bad toe your tiers will wear fast camber kit will help but not a solution to your problem get an alignment

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illvialuver Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: M-A-R-S... MARS BITCHES Age: 42 Posts: 5,065 Trader Rating: (35) Feedback Score: 35 reviews	WOW, suspensions.... and that made me feel like I was drunk.

03-21-2007, 12:06 AM	#10
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DoriftoPnoy Zilvia Addict Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: SoCal 818 Posts: 715 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	i think the $1000 statement comes from "im the mechanic and i more than you. so i will charge you for a part that only costs 200 bucks and you pay 800 for labor. sucker..." I went to some ridiculous shop like that. Good thing i have zilvia to inform me about suspensions. I.E. Suspension FAQ. __________________

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OptionZero Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Norcal Age: 41 Posts: 6,263 Trader Rating: (2) Rides Gallery: OptionZero Feedback Score: 2 reviews	is that how they spell things in "daygo"?

03-21-2007, 12:58 AM	#15
intense240sx Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 117 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	well i got hks springs. the car is lowered about 1.5. i thought he might try to scam me so good thing i came here. i'ma go try another shop. Last edited by intense240sx; 03-21-2007 at 10:56 AM..

03-21-2007, 07:35 AM	#16
axiomatik Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: ATL Posts: 4,702 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	personally, i would only get one suspension per car. buton a serious note, he's trying to scam you. __________________

03-21-2007, 11:49 AM	#17
Jefferson Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 394 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	wow is all I can say You need a new alignment guy asap "go back to stock wheels and everything will be OK" I would have punched him in the face for saying shit like that But like Logan said you should be able to set toe to zero with factory components especially if you only have 1.5" drop

03-21-2007, 12:46 PM	#18
drift freaq R.I.P. Aya, always love Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Los Feliz/Hollywood Posts: 18,564 Trader Rating: (215) Rides Gallery: drift freaq Feedback Score: 215 reviews	I don't know what to fault more. Your English grammar which is so bad it makes my head hurt or the shop tech that just either is a complete idiot or straight up lied to you. First off, please make an attempt at proper grammar so we can read and understand your question. Second off do not go back to that alignment tech. __________________ "Having a lot of tracks on a song is like putting stickers on a car to get more horsepower" New Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uebV1OnbRsw Buy my mounts! http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/51531...ns-mounts.html http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/317539...e-mouts-6.html

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azndoc Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles Age: 43 Posts: 9,487 Trader Rating: (47) Rides Gallery: azndoc Feedback Score: 47 reviews	Wow I just save a bunch of money by switching to Zilvia.net lol yeah no go on that $1000 job buddy. Such a scam.

03-21-2007, 01:31 PM	#21
cleantune BANNED Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: downingtown Age: 37 Posts: 268 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	That guy in the shop is lying and trying to rip you off. You do not need new toe arms. If your rear tires toe -in then your tire wear might be increased. This is because the tires are working against each other. Good for cornering though!

03-21-2007, 01:44 PM	#22
intense240sx Leaky Injector Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 117 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	aright thanks for the help guys. Sorry for my grammer, i didn't think i was in zilvia high school. simple slang of words doesn't hurt, i'm still a "youngin". haha. next time i'll fix my grammer.

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