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Old 03-21-2007, 05:35 PM   #61
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yea, I've heard that a million times, lol.

The way I look at it, I like the subject, and could see myself doing something in that field. If I have a clear vision of what I want to do at the end, cool, I can go to the masters, etc. If not, it is a good background to have I think, and it should be of use to me even if my profession isn't that field.

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That's the spirit. Your education is nothing more than what you make of it, and a shiny piece of paper to impress people that pay you to make something of it.
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That's the spirit. Your education is nothing more than what you make of it, and a shiny piece of paper to impress people that pay you to make something of it.
Its the same concept in automotive. You go to school for the paper that says you passed an automotive course when in reality all you need is 2 years of work in a shop or garage and be ASE certified. Some places won't hire you though unless you go to a school. For instance, BMW and Mercedes-Benz have their own schools which you can only attend if you go to either UTI or other selected automotive schools. You can attend at no cost their school as long as you retain a near perfect GPA and attendance record. But when you finish and go work you get payed well, you get benefits, holidays, retirement plan and if you like working on cars than your doing something you like which is the idea.... right?
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Mechanical engineering. I think I'm going to ditch it and go into the Navy before I off myself though. At this point I buy trucks on craigslist, fix them, and resell them.

Navy??? OH NOES!!!!!!!! But seriously, if you have a degree in Mechanical Engineering you can go flight engineer or something cool like pilot or WSO (weapons systems operator).
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Navy??? OH NOES!!!!!!!! But seriously, if you have a degree in Mechanical Engineering you can go flight engineer or something cool like pilot or WSO (weapons systems operator).
WSO as in 'wizzo', the 'copilots' in bombers that do the targeting stuff? I just say Navy because I want to get the hell out of where I am now.
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I debated about making the military a career, but I'm in university now, planning on going into law school. I'll probably stick with that... I'm only 21 though. I'm young.
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The flip side is that certain disciplines require certification. For example: medical, law, etc.
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WSO as in 'wizzo', the 'copilots' in bombers that do the targeting stuff? I just say Navy because I want to get the hell out of where I am now.
Yep 'wizo' is the nick name for them...like 'rio' for the tomcats. Having an engineering degree opens up a lot of options in the navy. You can go officer, or you can go in enlisted for 4 years and the Navy will pay off your school loans. *this route though you are probably an E3 coming in, it sucks because you have an education far above that of the people you are working for and you will want to choke the shit out of them*
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it sucks because you have an education far above that of the people you are working for and you will want to choke the shit out of them*
No different than being a non commissioned officer and having 2LTs fresh out of school coming to "lead" you.

Thankfully I was done with that years ago.
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Right now i do bitch work at a car dealership

Im going to school for Film. well, im at the community college right now. Im looking for a good four year university that specializes in film/television, and wont put me in debt for the rest of my life.

But yeah, i've always wanted to do editing for full length films. Or even doing some bizzare television show.

I gots lots of ideas constantly going through my head.

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Im going to school for Film. well, im at the community college right now. Im looking for a good four year university that specializes in film/television, and wont put me in debt for the rest of my life.

dont go to brooks institute...good school...will pwn u for life through student loans. on a plus side..you will be playing with cameras within 2 months, where as USC wont let your near a camera for 2 years
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Prep cook/cook/dishwasher and on the 26th I'll be training to be a machinist FT and still working as a prep-cook part time.

I thought about the marines and would still like to go, but my gf said we'd probably break up because I'd be gone a lot.

ASE certification is in the cards next and my gf is going to school for business management and accounting so with any luck we will open a shop together ...I'm thinking half strip-club, half motorcycle garage...
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My gf of 3 years dumped me 2 days before I left for the military. This was AFTER she supported my decision and said it wouldn't bother her. haha. I was kinda like "Thanks!.... bitch"

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The flip side is that certain disciplines require certification. For example: medical, law, etc.
Right, but hypothetically you could do those things without the certification. I'm not putting down a degree by any means. In my opinion going through these programs proves that you can learn. If you can learn, then you can do anything. Specializing in an area gives you a background so when you come upon something you don't know about, you have a general idea of where and/or who to ask about what you need to know to solve a problem.

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Its the same concept in automotive. You go to school for the paper that says you passed an automotive course when in reality all you need is 2 years of work in a shop or garage and be ASE certified. Some places won't hire you though unless you go to a school. For instance, BMW and Mercedes-Benz have their own schools which you can only attend if you go to either UTI or other selected automotive schools. You can attend at no cost their school as long as you retain a near perfect GPA and attendance record. But when you finish and go work you get payed well, you get benefits, holidays, retirement plan and if you like working on cars than your doing something you like which is the idea.... right?
Its the exact same concept. You hear from a lot of people that graduate UTI that probably didn't take it very seriously, now they are washing cars, or if they're lucky changing oil at a Jiffy Lube. Whose fault is that? I don't really like the technical schools because you're only training yourself to do a pretty specialized thing. In a more traditional education you get an exposure to a lot more than just wrenches and a certain make of car. So if after 7 years you don't like writing for a newspaper any more you have to put less effort into changing yourself than somebody who spent 2 years after high school learning about how to fix BMWs followed by 7 years at a BMW dealership.

The human mind is very good at adapting to what it does. I never want my mind so well adapted to whatever I do that I'm stuck doing that.

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Mechanical engineering. I think I'm going to ditch it and go into the Navy before I off myself though. At this point I buy trucks on craigslist, fix them, and resell them.
If you can't handle the stress of getting through school, do you really think you're going to like the stress of going through the military? Even in the military the education you've already started is worth tons. IMO stick with it and THEN look at your options. The Navy will still be there.
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Its the exact same concept. You hear from a lot of people that graduate UTI that probably didn't take it very seriously, now they are washing cars, or if they're lucky changing oil at a Jiffy Lube. Whose fault is that? I don't really like the technical schools because you're only training yourself to do a pretty specialized thing. In a more traditional education you get an exposure to a lot more than just wrenches and a certain make of car. So if after 7 years you don't like writing for a newspaper any more you have to put less effort into changing yourself than somebody who spent 2 years after high school learning about how to fix BMWs followed by 7 years at a BMW dealership.

The human mind is very good at adapting to what it does. I never want my mind so well adapted to whatever I do that I'm stuck doing that.
All internal combustions engines are relatively the same and for the most part most cars are the same concept wise.... 4 wheels, something powers those 4 wheels, and a way to control it. There are people who only work with one type of company for 20+ years and know the insides and outs of all the cars that the company produces, but they can still help you if you have a problem with a different brand car. Automotive is all relative, your just learning specifics from the manufacturers sometimes. I'm still deciding between BMW and Nissan. I know I want to work on cars but working at one of those 2 places would be accomplishing a goal I have.

The way I see it, if people who attend school to do automotive (or anything really) and slack off or don't really pay attention (or don't even care) thats just good news for me. Thats competition thats giving up before the race even starts so screw them and thanks for increasing my odds!

As far as adapting my mind to something I might regret later in life, but I know what I want to do for the time being.
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Working on BMW's is NOT fun....Nissans arent to hot either. Hondas=the best and least amount of tools you will need. Mazda isnt to bad either and has an awesome training program/dealer network

I think he was more so saying that certain dealers have specific training programs otherwise they wont hire and all. It doesnt matter much if you're a master tech though.
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Thanks for all the little tidbits of info you guys are giving me. As far as the tools, damn! I wouldn't mind working at a Honda or Mazda dealership, basically any place where I feel comfortable and enjoy what I'm doing. Right now I'm just a full time student which has it's perks but also has its negatives.... like being broke.
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You can buy a rather small box from Snap On specifically developed for Honda dealerships that has all the tools you need. Is "kinda" cheap too.
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Uhh. It doesn't exactly work that way. Nowadays, you have to combine a BBA/MBA with a strong minor. I'm doing a joint MBA/MIS major with a minor in Computer Science. If you just get a Business degree and have no idea what kind of industry you want to get into, you're back in the same boat. Great I have this Business degree, but what industry do I want to go into? Its good to have a general idea of what industry you'd be working in and minor (and take internships) in that.

Anyways, to answer the OP's question. FT college student, PT Box Pusher (UPS).
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My gf of 3 years dumped me 2 days before I left for the military. This was AFTER she supported my decision and said it wouldn't bother her. haha. I was kinda like "Thanks!.... bitch"

Not trying to scare you....
Yeah we've talked about it a lot...a lot of my friends went in and a few of them are over in Iraq right now. While I don't agree with the war, I am really interested in fixing what we ruined by giving them "freedom". All the people that were rich or well off left the country long ago while the working class (like myself) are still there enjoying their "freedom".

But yeah, it's basically a dealbreaker so I'd much rather marry her than volunteer to be one of Bush's human shields.
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Yeah we've talked about it a lot...a lot of my friends went in and a few of them are over in Iraq right now. While I don't agree with the war, I am really interested in fixing what we ruined by giving them "freedom". All the people that were rich or well off left the country long ago while the working class (like myself) are still there enjoying their "freedom".

But yeah, it's basically a dealbreaker so I'd much rather marry her than volunteer to be one of Bush's human shields.
Whether you agree with Iraq or not is beside the point really...
I learned the hard way though, if YOU want to do something and you feel it's important to you and it's the right thing to do... do it and don't let anyone stop you. IMHO she would support you no matter what if you're really that important to her, cause then what you want would be important to her as well.

But I digress I do... this is way off topic from the thread.
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Right, but hypothetically you could do those things without the certification. I'm not putting down a degree by any means. In my opinion going through these programs proves that you can learn. If you can learn, then you can do anything. Specializing in an area gives you a background so when you come upon something you don't know about, you have a general idea of where and/or who to ask about what you need to know to solve a problem.
I am not saying anything about the merits of the program. I am just saying that if you don't have a degree and you tried to practice law or medicine, you would go to jail.

It's just a check in the box, but without a degree you cannot practice at all, even if you know more than the typical practitioner.
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