Oil Additives???

[DriftSpecial180]

I have a KA24E getting up to 200k. I installed a test pipe and header maybe two months ago, and a new cam about a month ago. After the cam i'm starting to notice more smoke coming out of my exhaust and more oil being burned up. I know this is pretty typical for high mileage KA's, but i'm shooting to get a SR this summer. Does anyone have any expierence with any oil additives, like STP, that might help slow or stop the oil burning for a couple more months?

[DriftSpecial180]

No one has ever used any? My friends dad swears by STP, which he used in some of his older muscle cars, but i was curious to know if anyone else had any feedback with other personal expierence.

[Dousan_PG]

get anothe KAe
shits trash and pepole dump it for nothing.

[DriftSpecial180]

I only really need it for a couple more months, i'm running thicker oil to hopefully stop or reduce all the blow by from the old worn rings.

[Dousan_PG]

run non syn 20-50 and keep a few in the trunk
let it burn
just keep refilling
use the cheapest shit u can find hahah

[street240]

Originally Posted by DriftSpecial180

I only really need it for a couple more months, i'm running thicker oil to hopefully stop or reduce all the blow by from the old worn rings.

Thats all you can do. Nothing will save you know. Actually the sr will save you...

[Irukandji]

Don't use oil additives, they're all garbage.
Lucas foams up, trapping air bubbles in the oil.
Same with most other additives. Don't be fooled by the "hand crank" gear demo's they have at autostores..
There's a big difference between plastic gears at room temperature spinning at 30rpm compared to metal gears at 200degrees in a pressurized chamber.

[Anto]

Yup.

& the air bubbles that lucas creates heats up whatever it's in contact with more.

[Dream240]

Originally Posted by DriftSpecial180

I have a KA24E getting up to 200k. I installed a test pipe and header maybe two months ago, and a new cam about a month ago. After the cam i'm starting to notice more smoke coming out of my exhaust and more oil being burned up. I know this is pretty typical for high mileage KA's, but i'm shooting to get a SR this summer. Does anyone have any expierence with any oil additives, like STP, that might help slow or stop the oil burning for a couple more months?

Well let me just go on record saying that burning oil and excessive smoke from the tail is NOT common on high mileage engines (200k).

Those problems are common on POS cars that aren't properly maintained. I swear if I had a nickle for everytime I hear some guy say "Gotta get a new engine cause I'm over 150k....so I dont have much longer".

I'm on my 3rd car now that has passed the 200k barrier and I have had practically zero problems with the mechanics of the motor. Aside from changing gaskets and seals the motors have always run sound. And both of my latest 240s exceeded 200k with spirited driving and some proper maintenance. Sorry to get off topic but I felt this needed to be said.

As far as the OP goes, you answered your own question. You didn't notice the smoke until you got the upgraded cams? You've changed your valve timing and wonder why you got smoke? Also with the increased flow from the larger piping and no Converter, you're gonna see more smoke.

SIDE NOTE: YOU'RE POLLUTING THE AIR WITH UNNECESSARY POLLUTANTS for practically no power gains, oh and it's illegal.

It's basically running like your typical lawn mower. No cat, modified valve timing, 3+" piping..... and you're surprised?

I'll bet you the motor isn't in as bad a shape as you think. Sorry if this seems rude but I'm just getting to the point.

[DriftSpecial180]

Originally Posted by Dream240

Well let me just go on record saying that burning oil and excessive smoke from the tail is NOT common on high mileage engines (200k).

Those problems are common on POS cars that aren't properly maintained. I swear if I had a nickle for everytime I hear some guy say "Gotta get a new engine cause I'm over 150k....so I dont have much longer".

I'm on my 3rd car now that has passed the 200k barrier and I have had practically zero problems with the mechanics of the motor. Aside from changing gaskets and seals the motors have always run sound. And both of my latest 240s exceeded 200k with spirited driving and some proper maintenance. Sorry to get off topic but I felt this needed to be said.

As far as the OP goes, you answered your own question. You didn't notice the smoke until you got the upgraded cams? You've changed your valve timing and wonder why you got smoke? Also with the increased flow from the larger piping and no Converter, you're gonna see more smoke.

SIDE NOTE: YOU'RE POLLUTING THE AIR WITH UNNECESSARY POLLUTANTS for practically no power gains, oh and it's illegal.

It's basically running like your typical lawn mower. No cat, modified valve timing, 3+" piping..... and you're surprised?

I'll bet you the motor isn't in as bad a shape as you think. Sorry if this seems rude but I'm just getting to the point.

Well thank you for your concern, however no where in this was i surprised... (precisely why i underlined "more" in the original post, because it was also burning oil prior to other modifications)

I know its typical old engine behavior, and i'm 100% sure that if i owned this car since 1990 that it would be in much better running condition. Unfortunately most people don't car about thier car as much as we do.

Please, if you would like to help, disregard your insulting comments and re-read the post. My question is not, "why is my car smoking?"

[Dream240]

My reply was a "twofer" I gave you a little "E-slap" on the wrist for running no cat and killing the air we all breath that much faster (your unborn children thank you), AND I explained to you the most likely reasons for the "increased" smoke. Adding oil stabilizer is like adding choclate icing to a burnt cake, it's still gonna look, smell, and taste like shit. If anything it will just cause the engine to wear faster, and you'll need that SR sooner than you expected.

But since you seem to have the only working engine x-ray machine in the world and you can diagnose your smoke problem so easily maybe you should open your own shop and save the world from the endless autoshop misdiagnosis'.

So now does that answer your question? Oh and the sarcasm and insults are free.....I'm feeling generous today.

[MrChow]

Originally Posted by n1sm0r

Don't use oil additives, they're all garbage.
Lucas foams up, trapping air bubbles in the oil.
Same with most other additives. Don't be fooled by the "hand crank" gear demo's they have at autostores..
There's a big difference between plastic gears at room temperature spinning at 30rpm compared to metal gears at 200degrees in a pressurized chamber.

*stealing thread*
Hey my friend just put some of that stuff in his S2k and now he say his car is idle is super low. It just like it wants to die he tells me.
Would that be the problem??

[C. Senor]

i dont know about that last question, but i run lucas additive to 20-50 oil with a lifter additive aswell on my 225k kae...running headers and had an aggressive cam. runs great(except lifter tick..damn lifter) perfect idle at 700. but i have noticed those little bubbles. damn little bubbles.

[MrChow]

I used to run lucas in my KA but then I switch to Royal Purple Oil.

The Royal Purple felt great. I have 152k on my.

[drifting_changed_mylife]

now u have an exuse to swap it with the sr20det

[DJ_Sunrise]

BG MOA- Motor Oil Additive is actually a great oil additive.. some half brain dead mechanics here at toyota have done oil changes.. except.. they never put the oil in.. but.. they put the moa in.. 8cyl tacoma made a 15 mile trip through stop and go traffic before it seized.. lots of these stories around here.. mechanics like BG products, yall should give them a shot.

-Bart

[DriftSpecial180]

Originally Posted by Dream240

My reply was a "twofer" I gave you a little "E-slap" on the wrist for running no cat and killing the air we all breath that much faster (your unborn children thank you), AND I explained to you the most likely reasons for the "increased" smoke. Adding oil stabilizer is like adding choclate icing to a burnt cake, it's still gonna look, smell, and taste like shit. If anything it will just cause the engine to wear faster, and you'll need that SR sooner than you expected.

But since you seem to have the only working engine x-ray machine in the world and you can diagnose your smoke problem so easily maybe you should open your own shop and save the world from the endless autoshop misdiagnosis'.

So now does that answer your question? Oh and the sarcasm and insults are free.....I'm feeling generous today.

Not really, sounds like you just copied and pasted your old non-sense