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Old 10-01-2007, 11:58 AM   #1
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turbo recommendation for KA besides AMSgt32

im looking for another alternative turbo for my KA that has quick spool and capable of making 400 hp. Im on a $1200 budget. I was originally going with the ams gt32 .63ar but called ams and they said they arent gonna be caring this turbo anymore. this car is going to be primarily for street and drift events. turbonetics got there turbo but its already priced @ $914 and wanna see if theres anything better then that turbo for a couple hundred more.

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GT3071R for street, great spool, 350-400ish. GT3076R for a little more top end and a little more lag, 375-425ish. Both should be around $1,250.
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I'd say gt30 but look into internals first, I know plenty of KA's can handle that power but id say its not worth the risk of getting a nice big turbo and then the following week throwing a rod through the block.
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Call me crazy, but isn't 400hp pushing the limits of 550cc injectors?

I have a very similar setup(except for 740cc injectors, T3/T4, XS Power fmic, and Enthalpy ecu).

I went with the 740cc's because my goal was ~400rwhp.
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50 trim! super fast spool yet super affordable.
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Call me crazy, but isn't 400hp pushing the limits of 550cc injectors?

I have a very similar setup(except for 740cc injectors, T3/T4, XS Power fmic, and Enthalpy ecu).

I went with the 740cc's because my goal was ~400rwhp.
id say so, 550's are pretty maxed around 350whp
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ill look into these turbos. i need to get my car running by this week because i am moving out of my house and need to get my turbo kit finished. i hear a lot of good things about the gt2871r but from what ive been reading is that it doesent fit with my setup but more towards SR's.
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GT3071 .64AR @ approx 18psi is 400hp
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Call me crazy, but isn't 400hp pushing the limits of 550cc injectors?

I have a very similar setup(except for 740cc injectors, T3/T4, XS Power fmic, and Enthalpy ecu).

I went with the 740cc's because my goal was ~400rwhp.

my goal right now is 300rwhp. i just want a turbo that is capable of 400 so that when i further my tuning and get my motor built i can use the same turbo.
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GT3071R for street, great spool, 350-400ish. GT3076R for a little more top end and a little more lag, 375-425ish. Both should be around $1,250.
+1 the gt3071r is a nice little baby for the street.
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with a KA you can run the 86 AR of the 2871, most Sr's with that turbo see full boost around 4~4.2k and its a 400whp model... but with a KA you should be seeing mid to lower 3's on full boost.

for the mean time I say get a small turbo for the move... you know somethin cheap because stock internals wont hold even 300whp for that long

and a safc2 really isnt "tuning" ....so I hope you send the ECU off or something better.

if you want the 3071 I heard people love the 63 AR a lot
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Old 10-01-2007, 02:13 PM   #13
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where do you guys find the g3071r for $1250? atpturbo.com has it for $1395. so this turbo is 84trim and i should get the .63ar and a 3inch inlet?
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with a KA you can run the 86 AR of the 2871, most Sr's with that turbo see full boost around 4~4.2k and its a 400whp model... but with a KA you should be seeing mid to lower 3's on full boost.

for the mean time I say get a small turbo for the move... you know somethin cheap because stock internals wont hold even 300whp for that long

and a safc2 really isnt "tuning" ....so I hope you send the ECU off or something better.

if you want the 3071 I heard people love the 63 AR a lot
im sending the ecu out for an enthalpy tune as soon as i figure out which turbo im getting. enthalpy asks for specific parts in order for them to give you a tune. right now also im just running a .5 spring in my wastegate so ill just be running it off that until my boost controller comes in
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GT3071R for street, great spool, 350-400ish. GT3076R for a little more top end and a little more lag, 375-425ish. Both should be around $1,250.
with a retarded dwarf tuing the car maybe.

3071R is capable of 450whp with the right camshafts and Greddy IM.

3076R is capable of 500whp with the " ".

im at nearly 450whp on 91 oct on my 3076r
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so im kind of leaning towards the gt3071r. best price i found is $1175. will it be a big difference compared to if i were to go with the agp turbonetics .63ar as far as spool and feel of driving it daily?
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I don't think Greddy made an intake for the ka, but I could be wrong
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t3/to4e 50trim....quick spool, $615 on fullrace.com

http://www.full-race.com/catalog/pro...264887eec98582

as a matter of fact all their T3 turbos up to a 60trim are $615

I had a t3/t04e 57trim on my SR...making 350whp at 17psi...it was very quick
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i say go with the gt3071r and sell the safc and get somthing better
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so now im in a debate between a 50trim and the gt3071r. its mainly a street car and im thinking ill have plenty of power and to mention save money if i go with the 50 trim
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to match your setup... get the 50 trim
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that should work for you, i was makin 260 wheel on my ka that was stock with the boost at 12 psi
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thanks everyone for your help! i ended up getting a gt 3071r w/.63 ar. now i just need to get a z32 maf and head out to the dyno. ill post dyno numbers hopefully on tuesday
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i would go with 720 cc injectors

plus the safc2 is only designed to compensate for 100% injector size increase, so anything over 540cc's is maxing it out
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