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Old 08-29-2008, 08:53 AM   #31
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I might be able to get my hands on some, my grandmom is like hardcore political so she gets random stuff like shirts and things all the time. Haha and on a totally unrelated note, I found a Clinton/Gore '96 pin in my room the other day.
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Old 08-29-2008, 09:02 AM   #32
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Obama Biden.
Osama Bin Laden.

Got that from Jay Leno last night.

ok so i'm not the only one that thought of that when i first saw it. seriously when i found out that Biden was his VP i thought to myself...oh goddd why him outta all the people?
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Old 08-29-2008, 09:06 AM   #33
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i watched his speech. i just hope he follows through. like everytime i dsee him live i fee like something bad is going to happen.
i watched last night too, pretty good.
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Old 08-29-2008, 12:49 PM   #34
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like we have a say in the government anyways......
Our votes don't matter plain and simple. Like who ever you want but in the end civilians have no say in politics.
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Old 08-29-2008, 12:59 PM   #35
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like we have a say in the government anyways......
Our votes don't matter plain and simple. Like who ever you want but in the end civilians have no say in politics.
yeah?

what if you got everyone in zilvia to vote the same way, thats a good chunk of change in the electoral process that politicians would love to get their greasy claws on

the fact that you think your vote doesnt matter is childish
what if half of the american population thought like you and just voted for whoevers name was first

vote for who you think will be a better president or else we will make the decision for you
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Old 08-29-2008, 01:18 PM   #36
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yeah?

what if you got everyone in zilvia to vote the same way, thats a good chunk of change in the electoral process that politicians would love to get their greasy claws on

the fact that you think your vote doesnt matter is childish
what if half of the american population thought like you and just voted for whoevers name was first

vote for who you think will be a better president or else we will make the decision for you
I wouldn't say it's childish, I guess you could call me a political protester. IF we got half of America not to vote and protest the way our government was ran then well alot would change.

And you're right Plato one said the unfortunate thing about politics is that is you don't participate you end up getting governed by your inferiors.

And thanks for the neg rep without even understanding my reasoning.....
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Old 08-29-2008, 01:34 PM   #37
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I'm not a big Obama buff, I just HATE McCain and his 80's style campaign. Obama is NOT a lifetime politician, which I love. McCain has been a lifetime politician, which I hate. Since 1982 he has been the least active member of congress in congress. He's also known for bad decisions and for stripping POW/MIA's of what they're entitled to. Yes, he's a vet, but he works against them and claims that he's their biggest activist. You really have to go into his past to come up with this conclusion, not listen to the "modern day" McCain, who is the biggest liar and flip flopper of them all.
Most of the time Im ready to argue with you, and dont because I dont wanna sit there and type out a huge book, or its just pointless.
Today, I have to agree with you.
McCain is a media seeking douche bag. Compounding upon the point you made, the guy would come in about 1 minute before he was due up to speak in congress, make some dramatic point that would grab some headlines, burn a few people at the cross and then dip out. Total douche style. Much like when was questioning us military leaders bout Iraq. In for five minutes, birate someone, and leave before they could answer or just interject and birate while they did. Motherfucker ONLY thinks about himself and what will look good to others. I no longer believe that he has any type of ideals...which is sad for a former serviceman and someone in our government.
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