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Old 09-22-2008, 01:32 AM   #1
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It may work, but it is just a band-aid for a larger problem,
We're in 20 year old cars - we don't have the budget to fix everything 'properly' so bandaids will be the best that you can get in a lot of cases. What is the best in the open wheel world is probably not at all practical in a 20 year old car with limited suspension design, chassis design, etc.

By the way, it'd appear there is a too stiff. There really isn't much of any real stuff on the internet about chassis rigidity but anyway....
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"You don't want the chassis to become another spring in series and flex, explains Wesoloski. "All tuning should be done with the springs and dampers. The goal is to make the chassis as stiff as possible without punishing the car. Too stiff and loads go way up."
-Steve Wesoloski

Racepar, to ssteve you're just another condescending internet nobody, why should he change his opinion because of you? It's the internet - chill out.
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We're in 20 year old cars - we don't have the budget to fix everything 'properly' so bandaids will be the best that you can get in a lot of cases. What is the best in the open wheel world is probably not at all practical in a 20 year old car with limited suspension design, chassis design, etc.
I am sick of this attitude. "Oh it's a 20 year old $2000 or less car, who cares if it is done right?" You know who cares and is willing to spend the time and money? ME! I am not alone either!

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By the way, it'd appear there is a too stiff. There really isn't much of any real stuff on the internet about chassis rigidity but anyway....

-Steve Wesoloski
The part of that quote that SHOULD be bold is the part where it says "all tuning should be done through the springs and shocks".

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Racepar, to ssteve you're just another condescending internet nobody, why should he change his opinion because of you? It's the internet - chill out.
Exactly! Neither one of us needs to change our opinions based on what the other says! We both should just do our own research and come to out own conclusions. I am not trying to change anyone's opinions or win any arguments, I am simply defending my OWN opinions. Let's just say that Weslowski is right. Is it really realistically possible for 99.99999999% of HPDE and time attack guys to reach the point of "too stiff"? No it isn't! Even the big-time time attack guys do not have the resources to do that kind of engineering on their cars. If they ever make it there it is pure luck 99.999999% of the time.
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