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Old 04-12-2009, 11:14 AM   #1
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you live in socal, life for a car cant get much better than being here in this nice dry environment

you're a bit of a douchebag for not asking before doing, but hey.. we all make mistakes.

personally, i would've sealed anything that was bare metal with etching primer, then done whatever you want to do (fill or paint) after that. however, i wouldnt EVER fill panels like that with filler - i just think its stupid and useless.

another member made a good point, i think it was s14db, that the seam sealer is important to keeping panels together. i removed seam sealer from various sections of my chassis but reinforced everything by having it stitch-welded after. then, the entire chassis was primed and painted. NOW, for the past couple months i've been working on the undercarriage and have been brushing and removing dirt from the wheel wells and undercarriage. sections that were stitch welded had burned through the vehicle's undercoating and need to be re-coated before subjected to the elements. i think a lot of people forget this when doing race-prep like stitch-welding, they take care of coating the interior with paint but never coat the undercarriage.. i wouldnt be surprised if people ran into big problems later.

for now, i'de rock your setup a bit and be very cautious. to start over would be very time consuming, so just rock it until things start to fall apart (which they probably will). filler will crack, seams will separate... fuckit, just rebuilt it. chances are, the socal weather will not harm your car. just avoid driving in the rain and keep the car stored indoors.
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you live in socal, life for a car cant get much better than being here in this nice dry environment

you're a bit of a douchebag for not asking before doing, but hey.. we all make mistakes.

personally, i would've sealed anything that was bare metal with etching primer, then done whatever you want to do (fill or paint) after that. however, i wouldnt EVER fill panels like that with filler - i just think its stupid and useless.

another member made a good point, i think it was s14db, that the seam sealer is important to keeping panels together. i removed seam sealer from various sections of my chassis but reinforced everything by having it stitch-welded after. then, the entire chassis was primed and painted. NOW, for the past couple months i've been working on the undercarriage and have been brushing and removing dirt from the wheel wells and undercarriage. sections that were stitch welded had burned through the vehicle's undercoating and need to be re-coated before subjected to the elements. i think a lot of people forget this when doing race-prep like stitch-welding, they take care of coating the interior with paint but never coat the undercarriage.. i wouldnt be surprised if people ran into big problems later.

for now, i'de rock your setup a bit and be very cautious. to start over would be very time consuming, so just rock it until things start to fall apart (which they probably will). filler will crack, seams will separate... fuckit, just rebuilt it. chances are, the socal weather will not harm your car. just avoid driving in the rain and keep the car stored indoors.
Yeah I know I should've asked the Zilvian Community but I didn't know it'd be such a big problem until now.
My dad, a neighbor, and the paint clerk all gave me the thumbs up so I just went ahead and did it this way.
My original plan was to put some primer on before applying the bondo.

The whole point of me filling the panels was to get a really clean smooth look.
It is useless but to me I did it for an aesthetic appeal.
I had a year before being able to drive (again after crashing my s14)

I planed to put the seam sealer back on, I think I mentioned that in the last pg.
I wanted to stitch weld the chassis but again the lack of knowledge & funds prevented me from doing so.

But thanks for agreeing with me on how time-consuming removing the bondo can be.
I'll take your advice & drive it hard till it falls apart.

I just see this as a whole learning experience and even though its been a total b*tch,
I know that my next project will benefit from the past experiences I had with this car.
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