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Old 06-24-2009, 04:20 PM   #31
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Anyone had any experience with the Tein Super Sports? My buddy had them in his Supra, they felt amazing, but that could also be because the car weighs 3700lbs...
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Old 06-24-2009, 06:05 PM   #32
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i would suggest selling your S13/S14's and forgetting about doing suspension upgrades.


buy an S12, they have superior suspension design and are rare, you wont see one at every stop light (unlike the 240sx).

be unique... seriously.

edit: sorry, no tanabe for s12 but dont worry, i am speaking with the ceo of tanabe and they will be developing new products shorlty.
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Doesn't the S12 have a live rear axle, or semi-trailing arm IRS?

That's superior? :\
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Old 06-24-2009, 07:58 PM   #34
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For a completely assembled setup. There are only a few names
Ohlins! I have first hand experience with Ohlins and they are pretty damn good! Of course finding a decent set for a price under 1k not simple findng a good set for over 1k they come up but you have to look. Cool thing about Ohlins and Koni's is the fact that there are several licensed shops for servicing them. Two are in California one in Sonoma and one down here in the San Fernando Valley.
Dave, I did some research about a year ago and only came up with Performance
if there's an authorized Ohlins shop in the Valley then that's great news.
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Old 06-24-2009, 09:12 PM   #36
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Doesn't the S12 have a live rear axle, or semi-trailing arm IRS?

That's superior? :\
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Stance Gr Pros are great. Its the best coilovers i have owned so far. At first they felt like crap and stiff as hell, but it was because i set the preload wrong and it makes a big difference. If you do get them, just tighten up the spring by hand only, that is enough preload for them.
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you didnt see the s12 threads?

so much to learn, young man
Hahahahaha, Mike I love your avatar. S12 FER LYFFFFFFHHHHH.

Lol. Glad to see that there's some actual driver opinions in this thread, not just "internet opinion" (I heard these were the best, etc).
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Old 06-24-2009, 11:15 PM   #39
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+1 for Stance GR+ Pros.

I have them on my 14 with the dampening set to 4 in the front and 2 in the rear.

Minus the fact that I have bad tires, no alignment and suspension is still in work, they feel great, but are a still bit rough on horrible roads. Remember, could also be due to my bad tires and stuff.

When my stuff was good, the Stances and a Nismo Power Brace made the car feel like it was brand spanking new. Then I had a tire blow up, skidded across the freeway and the car feels like shit now.
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Old 06-24-2009, 11:41 PM   #40
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all i have to say is fuck megan racing products


get stance. or any of the more expensive ones on that list of yours

for a more streetable car get coils with helper springs. run the 6k - 8k springs on them and the car will be firm and still streetable. even 6k-8k on shitty megans are streetable.

also, turn the stiffening knobs to somwhere in the softer setting for daily driving. i use 20 / 32 (higher being softer) on my shitty megans. and it rides aight
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I see many different vendors come out with coilovers, but they all seem to be "drifting" coilovers.

According to your opinion give advice and quality street able coilovers, i frequently drive through CA, NV, and AZ- Lots of driving.......

even if you just post a name so i can do further research.

so far i know of; BUT which are the most "streetable" and not as ridged?

TEIN Basic $1000
Stance GR $1200
K Sport KP $800
Megan $900
Tanabe II $800
Footwerks $850
Greddy $1400
Cusco $1700
D-Maxx $1100
Function2 $1100
Honestly all of the ones you listed are complete trash.

I mean that whole heartedly

I think the Tanabe and the Function II could be ok, but when I first started racing SRs everyone still pretty much though Meagen was a joke (like lower than OBX ebay crap) and the quality has not improved, just their marketing budget....seriously guys.

FOR THE MONEY, and I have used almost all of the above in the last 8 years of nissan driving/tuning - KTS is the best unit. If that means they share the same mass produced body as another crap unit, whatever, all I know is the standard 8 FR 6 RR Coilover SPL's site sell is great for everything and the car has a very FLAT and NEUTRAL feeling when cornering. When the dampers are tuned down to about 3 from softest the car actually drives VERY comfortably. It also launches great and is extremely stable under load (does not bounce back and forth or slam your ass when you hit the slightest bump) (which btw should be a huge warning sign that you bought CRAP dampers).


If you want to spend a little bit more money the TEIN Flex are also great quality for the price. I would also look into Ground Control + Koni Yellows with Tien Pillowball mounts. You can put this setup together for about 1500 bucks give or take a few hundred dollars and you will have a setup that handles better than some 3000-5000 dollar pre-made kits for serious grip racing. Or at least better than KW

Anyways that is my two cents, I did a couple hardcore track days at Buttonwillow, once with TIEN, once with AGX + GC and once with KTS.

I have driven Stance, and I am not sure if they are related to KTS coils I had in heritage but from my impression the Stance were garbage too.

You really cannot tell unless you drive the car with REALLY sticky tires and a lot of HP, then you get to compare body roll, damper rebound, and the y naturally induced conditions on the chassis that are purely being caused by the change. I know drifting is huge but I think the hype is most pushing people to buy the coils that can get their car the lowest for cheapest, not which suspension can make the car handle the best first and then how much adjustment you have in ride height

KTS rocked and I got them used for 700 bucks. couldnt go wrong best coilover I ever drove on in an S13. car is gone now though

But hey I am just a Dyno Tuner...what do I know?

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Old 06-25-2009, 01:23 AM   #42
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Honestly all of the ones you listed are complete trash.

KTS rocked and I got them used for 700 bucks. couldnt go wrong best coilover I ever drove on in an S13. car is gone now though

But hey I am just a Dyno Tuner...what do I know?

(giggles)
thanks for your imput and as regards my set up just because its a Nissan doesnt mean I "drift" lol jk, but seriously even the track car to be built soon will be set up for time attack/grip. Im just a noob though and want to really learn to "DRIVE"

The daily has plenty power sr cams 3076 2 way etc, thats why i requested others opinions about coils as i have not been able to try many.

Thx again for all the input!!!
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Old 06-25-2009, 01:32 AM   #43
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DMAX, 4 clicks from soft feels better then my old struts and spring.
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Old 06-25-2009, 01:51 AM   #44
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You get what you pay for on coilovers. Judging by Jeff's comment, the tein basics are an exception to that rule.

I've heard nothing but good on the DMAX ones, and those are the coilovers I will be purchasing (I daily drive/daily drift/track/freeway run/beat the shit out of my car).
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Old 06-25-2009, 02:46 AM   #45
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i road in tein basic, d2, megan track, and tanabe pro so-c and i prefer the so-c, so like ixfxi said

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if you havent learned from the other threads, learn from this one:


its all about TANABE. TANABE is the ONLY brand.
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Old 06-25-2009, 08:03 AM   #46
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Driven on Tein HE's - both S13 and S14 - corner balanced they still sucked
Driven the first gen of Stances and found them decent for the price
Best set up I've ever ridden on was Koni Yellows w/ GC, Eibach springs and Whiteline swaybars.

Amazes me how these days a $1500 coilover is the benchmark everyone aims at.
What happened to the days when everyone knew/understood that good set ups started at $2k and up.
Also wonder how many people bother to corner balance their coilovers and fix the suspension geometry?

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Old 06-25-2009, 08:29 AM   #47
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I have the Tein Flex on my car..........alot of people seem to think they are the most "daily driveable" coilover from when i was searching ~2 yrs ago. They are definitely more comfortable than the mazdaspeed coilovers i ran on my rx7, but alot of times I still feel they are too harsh for what I want.
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I had JIC Magic FLA2 on my '90 200SX (Euro S13 Fastback). It handled like ultra awesomeness (an overstatement). Well, it was pretty good for what I paid for them. On the softest setting it was still pretty unforgiving on cobblestone (downtown Naples, Italy). On the hardest setting, anything outside of the smoothest road was an experience. My '89 240SX is getting Stance GR+ when I get back from deployment. I loved my JICs, but dodge bumps, potholes, and cobblestone if at all possible.
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Driven on Tein HE's - both S13 and S14 - corner balanced they still sucked
Driven the first gen of Stances and found them decent for the price
Best set up I've ever ridden on was Koni Yellows w/ GC, Eibach springs and Whiteline swaybars.

Amazes me how these days a $1500 coilover is the benchmark everyone aims at.
What happened to the days when everyone knew/understood that good set ups started at $2k and up.
Also wonder how many people bother to corner balance their coilovers and fix the suspension geometry?
i have tein HA's on my miata.



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kw variants / ohlins

best coils for street use


hah
Yes they are I hope to have these installed very soon. If I remember, I will try to post a detailed review of these, since very few know they exist.

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^^ i like the KW but the list price is like $2k on their website.


I vote for Stance GR+ Pros if you want to spend closer to $1k.
You do know that every website sells them for around $1700, and there is even an advertiser's special on these. http://zilvia.net/f/advertiser-speci..._____sale.html
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hey, i've been doing some research on stance's new luxury coils BUT sucks...they only appear to have them for the S14 as of now but i know for a fact they are developing an S13 application

LX+Plus

so how long can you wait?
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hey, i've been doing some research on stance's new luxury coils BUT sucks...they only appear to have them for the S14 as of now but i know for a fact they are developing an S13 application

LX+Plus

so how long can you wait?
Yeah i posted this on the first page lol

I talked to Stance about a month ago asking about the S13's LX+Plus

They said if needed they would valve you a set for the S13's
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I had PBM
at full soft, it was bearable.

not too bad imo.
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wel what about silk roads? granted they are mainly a drift setup coilover but my buddy has them on his s13.5 dd and they ride smooth to him, and he a biiiig dude too.. just too bad they so expensive lol
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price on those right there?
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thar ya go
Zeal Function-Xs Coilovers Nissan 240SX S13 89-94 Vivid Racing

zeal are proper but are they good as "streetable" coils?
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