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rsj · 08-25-2003, 02:11 AM

yeah i know this is a zilvia forum but i was wondering i own a 240sx and im thinking about buying a 2004 nissan se-r
( http://www.nissanusa.com/vehicles/Mo...29282,00.html# )

and i really dont know that much about cars but will i get about the same performance (or better) with the se-r compared to my 240sx?
240sx hatchback 89 all stock

im not asking about advice for buying the car what mods i should do to it all that **** that makes you guys mad im just wondering how do these two cars compare to each other (handling, speed, etc..) thanks for the help guys

nightwalker · 08-25-2003, 05:13 AM

I don't know, but I can tell you this, personally I wouldn't go near an SE-R with a ten foot pole. Buuut! ...much better FF performance in the Honda camp if you want FF.

rsj · 08-25-2003, 04:38 PM

whats wronge with a se-r? i have about 18k and it looked like the best (brand new car) i could get with that

(i want a brand new car cause i love the fact i could be the first owner) ??

zero.counter · 08-25-2003, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rsj
whats wronge with a se-r? i have about 18k and it looked like the best (brand new car) i could get with that

(i want a brand new car cause i love the fact i could be the first owner) ??

Did you look at the SRT-4? Its around that price, FF, turbocharged to 215HP or rather, and has a mopar package coming out (stage 1 i believe) to increase HP to around 240HP and 260FT/lbs. for an extra $400.

Here is some info from dodge's website:
"The SRT-4's engine is a turbocharged and intercooled 2.4-liter DOHC 16-valve 4-cylinder that produces an impressive 215-horsepower and 245 lb. ft. of torque. Producing that kind of power from a 2.4-liter engine is one thing, but few could make it work day-in and day-out like SRT-4."

Here is Mopar's upgrade sire for the SRT-4:
http://www.mopar.com/perf_srt_turbo.html

And of course, Dodge's SRT-4 site:
http://www.dodge.com/srt-4/index.htm...ance&type=left

rsj · 08-25-2003, 04:55 PM

what about the

2003 MAZDASPEED Protegé (2003.5)

grrrr i dont know i just want a car that can own up to my 240sx (more speed) and is new lol

zero.counter · 08-25-2003, 05:06 PM

The mazdaspeed looks cool and all, but does not give you the most bang for your buck.

Do a search for reviews for the cars, sportcompactcar had the SRT-4 as the best deal overall, as did car & driver, motorweek, and some others.

The mazdaspeed for $21k, thats ludicrous. The SRT-4 has a suspension package, 17-in. wheels, bucket seats from the viper, and some other amenities. For that high price, you might as well save a little more and buy a WRX or a used 350Z (here in S.A., used is going for like $23k).

CoasTek240 · 08-25-2003, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rsj
grrrr i dont know i just want a car that can own up to my 240sx (more speed) and is new lol

well buy just about any new car, thats a decent competitor, i.e. rsx, neon srt-4, lancer, se-R spec-V,mini,mazdaspeed vehicles.civic si, prelude.

our cars are old skool tech. and slow!. dont kid your self.

*disclaimer, not bashing 240's, i love em!...but they are slow stock, they have potential, or i would be driving one, and i'm sure there wouldnt be nearly as many enthusiasts if they didnt.

rsj · 08-26-2003, 01:59 AM

srt-4 looks pretty damn good but i dont know much about dodge..... i mean i guess it would be pretty hard to tell people i got a "dodge neon" ...maybe ill just say its a srt-4

thanks for all the info

aznpoopy · 08-26-2003, 08:08 PM

my friend has a 2002 ser specV and i got a 1995 240sx. the specV and 240 are a bit similar in terms of power. i think his is rated base 180hp/180tq. the 240s base is supposedly around 150s. they perform similarly in a straight line, i guess the difference in hp is made up by the 240s FR setup. i've driven his car and its pretty fun to drive for a fwd. the shifter is pretty annoying though. even if you double clutch or rev match or whatever... going up and down the gears u have to slam it into place. it feels very imprecise and is prone to mis-shifting. the 240 is much smoother. its got pretty good handling, again considering its fwd. i'm not really a great fwd driver so i can't really say how it is on corners. my friend can whip it around turns alright, but i wasn't too impressed. naturally it doesn't have that great feeling going around corners u get in a 240 (yay FR)

other minor things... i think the rear looks ugly, but the front looks nice. i prefer coupes so i was turned off by the 4 door-ness. the engine sound is bizarre. it sounds like a weird hollow howl, similar to the 350z sound if you ever heard one go screaming past. i like the sound of the ka better. for some reason he dents his rims alot... just going over bumps in the road. he's never curbed it and he takes the bumps really slow. anyone else have this problem? oh well. all in all its a decent car. its like a sporty grocery getter or a college kid car. it's not a pure sports car, but neither is the 240. compared to the 240, it trades a bit of sport for a bit of comfort and practicality.

personally i wouldn't get one simply because i love the feel of rear wheel drive. but that's just me.

hmm... i would take this over any of those other cars b/c... mazda = poor reliability compared to nissan, acura = high theft rates/higher insurance, definitely don't want a neon :P . base lancer (non evo) is a joke of a car. i would consider the prelude or the si.

rsj · 08-26-2003, 11:36 PM

god i really dont know what to do.....i like the look of the 240sx alot and i love how you can fix it up but i REALLLY want a brand new car...somthing about me being the first owner i dont know........

i just want a car with the look of a 240sx but more speed and is new...lol is there a car out there like that? lol

Red · 08-26-2003, 11:53 PM

New cars suck...

Get used.. nice and cheep...

You know what being the 1st owner means?

You just made that car cheep for the next guy!

rsj · 08-26-2003, 11:54 PM

ouch..........what i make sence....

1. looking for a car that has some style (much like the 240sx)
2. Looking for a new car (2003-2004)
3. Looking for a car with alot of power

that help?

Red · 08-27-2003, 12:00 AM

Maxima <-- Ehh

350z <-- would be nice

or

2 door G35 <-- I want!

hadokenny · 08-27-2003, 12:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rsj
ouch..........what i make sence....

1. looking for a car that has some style (much like the 240sx)
2. Looking for a new car (2003-2004)
3. Looking for a car with alot of power

that help?

seems like the 350z or the g35 is perfect for u...since u didnt really give a price range.

rsj · 08-27-2003, 01:25 AM

ehheh mods are cool thanks for the topic yo :P

Sundi240 · 08-27-2003, 01:31 AM

Lots of power...03 Cobra, nuff said.

rsj · 08-27-2003, 01:49 AM

just letting everyone know ... :P im going to get the mazdaspeed protege

thanks all.... :P

fastpace · 08-27-2003, 03:38 PM

good choice, i hope you have fun with it.

08-25-2003, 02:11 AM	#1
rsj Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: oregon Posts: 15 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ok hmmm yeah i know this is a zilvia forum but i was wondering i own a 240sx and im thinking about buying a 2004 nissan se-r ( http://www.nissanusa.com/vehicles/Mo...29282,00.html# ) and i really dont know that much about cars but will i get about the same performance (or better) with the se-r compared to my 240sx? 240sx hatchback 89 all stock im not asking about advice for buying the car what mods i should do to it all that **** that makes you guys mad im just wondering how do these two cars compare to each other (handling, speed, etc..) thanks for the help guys

08-25-2003, 05:13 AM	#2
nightwalker Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bay area Age: 46 Posts: 2,146 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I don't know, but I can tell you this, personally I wouldn't go near an SE-R with a ten foot pole. Buuut! ...much better FF performance in the Honda camp if you want FF. __________________ In life, we often cast the line of hope fishing for the best possible opportunity. Sometimes with enough effort, the things we catch are nothing short of amazing.

08-26-2003, 11:53 PM	#11
Red Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Vancouver, WA - Portland, OR Age: 44 Posts: 734 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	New cars suck... Get used.. nice and cheep... You know what being the 1st owner means? You just made that car cheep for the next guy! __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/509537 http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4287415487 http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=21036

08-27-2003, 12:00 AM	#13
Red Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Vancouver, WA - Portland, OR Age: 44 Posts: 734 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Maxima <-- Ehh 350z <-- would be nice or 2 door G35 <-- I want! __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/509537 http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4287415487 http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=21036

08-27-2003, 03:38 PM	#18
fastpace Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Houston, TX Age: 43 Posts: 689 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: fastpace Feedback Score: 0 reviews	good choice, i hope you have fun with it. __________________ life is what you make of it!!!! "well, I go out, I do the practice, I think about it and I concentrate on one small thing I can change that will have an effect. I make that change then I go out and drive to my maximum." -Ayrton Senna

08-25-2003, 04:38 PM	#3
rsj Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: oregon Posts: 15 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	whats wronge with a se-r? i have about 18k and it looked like the best (brand new car) i could get with that (i want a brand new car cause i love the fact i could be the first owner) ??

08-25-2003, 04:55 PM	#5
rsj Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: oregon Posts: 15 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	what about the 2003 MAZDASPEED Protegé (2003.5) grrrr i dont know i just want a car that can own up to my 240sx (more speed) and is new lol

08-25-2003, 05:06 PM	#6
zero.counter Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: At work Posts: 2,003 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The mazdaspeed looks cool and all, but does not give you the most bang for your buck. Do a search for reviews for the cars, sportcompactcar had the SRT-4 as the best deal overall, as did car & driver, motorweek, and some others. The mazdaspeed for $21k, thats ludicrous. The SRT-4 has a suspension package, 17-in. wheels, bucket seats from the viper, and some other amenities. For that high price, you might as well save a little more and buy a WRX or a used 350Z (here in S.A., used is going for like $23k).

08-26-2003, 01:59 AM	#8
rsj Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: oregon Posts: 15 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	srt-4 looks pretty damn good but i dont know much about dodge..... i mean i guess it would be pretty hard to tell people i got a "dodge neon" ...maybe ill just say its a srt-4 thanks for all the info

08-26-2003, 08:08 PM	#9
aznpoopy Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New Jersey Age: 44 Posts: 5,013 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	my friend has a 2002 ser specV and i got a 1995 240sx. the specV and 240 are a bit similar in terms of power. i think his is rated base 180hp/180tq. the 240s base is supposedly around 150s. they perform similarly in a straight line, i guess the difference in hp is made up by the 240s FR setup. i've driven his car and its pretty fun to drive for a fwd. the shifter is pretty annoying though. even if you double clutch or rev match or whatever... going up and down the gears u have to slam it into place. it feels very imprecise and is prone to mis-shifting. the 240 is much smoother. its got pretty good handling, again considering its fwd. i'm not really a great fwd driver so i can't really say how it is on corners. my friend can whip it around turns alright, but i wasn't too impressed. naturally it doesn't have that great feeling going around corners u get in a 240 (yay FR) other minor things... i think the rear looks ugly, but the front looks nice. i prefer coupes so i was turned off by the 4 door-ness. the engine sound is bizarre. it sounds like a weird hollow howl, similar to the 350z sound if you ever heard one go screaming past. i like the sound of the ka better. for some reason he dents his rims alot... just going over bumps in the road. he's never curbed it and he takes the bumps really slow. anyone else have this problem? oh well. all in all its a decent car. its like a sporty grocery getter or a college kid car. it's not a pure sports car, but neither is the 240. compared to the 240, it trades a bit of sport for a bit of comfort and practicality. personally i wouldn't get one simply because i love the feel of rear wheel drive. but that's just me. hmm... i would take this over any of those other cars b/c... mazda = poor reliability compared to nissan, acura = high theft rates/higher insurance, definitely don't want a neon :P . base lancer (non evo) is a joke of a car. i would consider the prelude or the si.

08-26-2003, 11:36 PM	#10
rsj Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: oregon Posts: 15 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	god i really dont know what to do.....i like the look of the 240sx alot and i love how you can fix it up but i REALLLY want a brand new car...somthing about me being the first owner i dont know........ i just want a car with the look of a 240sx but more speed and is new...lol is there a car out there like that? lol

08-26-2003, 11:54 PM	#12
rsj Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: oregon Posts: 15 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ouch..........what i make sence.... 1. looking for a car that has some style (much like the 240sx) 2. Looking for a new car (2003-2004) 3. Looking for a car with alot of power that help?

08-27-2003, 01:25 AM	#15
rsj Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: oregon Posts: 15 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ehheh mods are cool thanks for the topic yo :P

08-27-2003, 01:31 AM	#16
Sundi240 Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 147 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Lots of power...03 Cobra, nuff said.

08-27-2003, 01:49 AM	#17
rsj Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: oregon Posts: 15 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	just letting everyone know ... :P im going to get the mazdaspeed protege thanks all.... :P

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