Drifting!!??!

[AceInHole]

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[I guess what I really wanted to say was that there's no need to hate on kids that tries to be a drifter. If they're good at it, then they deserve the respect. If they are not, then at least they will know to appreciate a good drift when they see one. (and I am sure that they know how to appreciate a good grip) <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
The problem isn't the kid that tries to be a drifter... it's more of the way they go about it. &nbsp;Some of the crap that gets asked just doesn't make any sense whatsoever, and some of the stories are killing the essence of drifting, which ultimately should be car control at the very limit. &nbsp;
Anyways, I'm prolly just still on edge. &nbsp;Ah well. &nbsp;

[Tuck&Poke]

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If all you care about is grip, why not go get yourself an awd car. They tend to make better lap times than an FR car. (ofcourse, this changes at the GT racing level, but how many of you guys here actually have FR cars pumping out over 500hp racing around a track). Heck, why not just go get the type-R since they have better lap times then the S14s.

The whole point about FR cars/240SX is that it is fun to drive. Why is it fun to drive? because we are able to &quot;drift&quot; through the turns rather than gripping all the way through. Some of you guys also seems to have your own definition for &quot;drifting&quot; but there are many forms of drifting.

For people who have such negative comments about drifting, I'd say that you have never seen a car drift in person, and that you have never tried it yourself. If you have done either one of the two, I'm sure that you won't think it's just a trend.
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the reason they dont use awd in gt cars is because its against the rules. &nbsp;no matter how much hp you have your always going to have better control in a awd car. &nbsp;the reason its against the rules is because the cars with awd would have huge advantage over the fr cars and for companies to develope an awd system from scratch is very expensive.
second. &nbsp;the reason ITR posts faster lap times is because of more power (at least with the ka) so you cannot compare the two. &nbsp;also the itr is bread as a track car not like the silvia wich is more of a street car. &nbsp;the sivlia has much softer suspension than the itr

[HippoSleek]

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</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">the reason they dont use awd in gt cars is because its against the rules. no matter how much hp you have your always going to have better control in a awd car. the reason its against the rules is because the cars with awd would have huge advantage over the fr cars and for companies to develope an awd system from scratch is very expensive.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Which is why the fastest, most competitive circuit racing in the world is not in RWD cars. &nbsp;Also why most all exotic car manufacturers, who charge more for their cars than most will spend for a house, have exclusively RWD chasses. &nbsp;

Honestly, I don't mean to offend, but this topic has turned into a bit of an assinine attempt to defend what should be considered a form of moving art. &nbsp;Discussing the ability of the ITR vs the 240sx is beyond the purview of this thread... I think we did that last week. &nbsp;Obviously all platforms have their merits (and demerits), but the bottom line is that if you look at most forms of racing, RWD dominates. &nbsp;Period. &nbsp;Go to an IT race or a GT race (in the US) and tell me all about the AWD cars? &nbsp;They suck on a track. &nbsp;Good traction out of the hole, but they will get eaten alive in the straights and even many transitions. &nbsp;Why? &nbsp;HUGE parasitic drivetrain loss, numb steering, and LOTS of weight.

More to the point, however, is that there is a finesse to driving FWD or RWD cars (although AWD is generally just a mash on the pedal and see what happens affair). &nbsp;Some prefer controlled power on oversteer some don't. &nbsp;Some would rather trade nimble for revs for grippy torque. &nbsp;It IS about fun - but it is not limited to a particular layout.

I think drifting is fine, but I am a track lover first. &nbsp;What bothers me is the legions of wannabe drifters (to me, nothing but a sTuNNa w/ a RWD car) that don't respect the control that one should have before they go out and pull their tricks (I hate street racers for the same reasons). &nbsp;Beyond that, I hate people that feel the need to claim that drifters are THE best drivers b/c of car control or the fastest on the track b/c Colin MacRae does it in rally. &nbsp;To each their own, but when people get on this drifting high horse, it just gets on my nerves (I guess more than a few of us agree?).

[Chokets]

i'm out... just wanna say, let's all just show each other a little love, whether we like drifting or not don't really matter, we're all here cuz we like 240s, we're all brothers here (plus that one girl, she's a sister)