Weight obsession - part weights on S13

[slider2828]

Originally Posted by kognition

Agreed. My experience at the track with the 800 HP Doubledown Motorsports 350Z could still not come close to a 500 Hp tuned S2k like C West's. That car is just too heavy, has no airflow in the bay and always overheats, going into limp mode half the time. And still no championship titles that any Z can claim in time attack in the states.

I wonder how the 2010 JGTC Z won the championship this year.... I think only 370's overheat stock LOL.... 350's just overheat after awhile LOL....

[kognition]

You cant compare a sorted out JGTC car to anything. They are in a class unto themselves. They are super lightened, and have extensive wind tunnel time. Alot of detail goes into those cars. These are million dollar cars your talking about. With the support and resources involved in their success.

Originally Posted by slider2828

I wonder how the 2010 JGTC Z won the championship this year.... I think only 370's overheat stock LOL.... 350's just overheat after awhile LOL....

[slider2828]

Originally Posted by kognition

You cant compare a sorted out JGTC car to anything. They are in a class unto themselves. They are super lightened, and have extensive wind tunnel time. Alot of detail goes into those cars. These are million dollar cars your talking about. With the support and resources involved in their success.

Agreed, but they run the same engine VQ35DE, so they had to be able to make it reliable and HP. In the final round this year, they had a ridiculous lead on the entire field.... Not talking about aero specifically, but this is similar to the cwest full carbon s2k....

[codyace]

Originally Posted by slider2828

Agreed, but they run the same engine VQ35DE, so they had to be able to make it reliable and HP. In the final round this year, they had a ridiculous lead on the entire field.... Not talking about aero specifically, but this is similar to the cwest full carbon s2k....

It's like saying Jimmy Johnson's small block is why the ne Zo6's run well...totally unrelated engines, other than the brand name on the valve covers.

[kognition]

Not trying to gang up on you or anything. So please don't take offense.
The C West S2K isn't unique in any respect. Anyone stateside can achieve the same with off the shelf bolt on body panels. It has high rpm and about 400-500 ish hp. But always always blew head gaskets at every event. It was more Tyler than car to be honest.

Originally Posted by slider2828

Agreed, but they run the same engine VQ35DE, so they had to be able to make it reliable and HP. In the final round this year, they had a ridiculous lead on the entire field.... Not talking about aero specifically, but this is similar to the cwest full carbon s2k....

[racepar1]

Originally Posted by kognition

You cant compare a sorted out JGTC car to anything. They are in a class unto themselves. They are super lightened, and have extensive wind tunnel time. Alot of detail goes into those cars. These are million dollar cars your talking about. With the support and resources involved in their success.

When I look at the front end of a JGTC car the first thing I notice is all the ductwork behind the bumper and out through the hood and fenders. The engine bay airflow is meticulously managed. It was ridiculous to try and compare pretty much any other z to the JGTC cars.