is it just me??? Overpriced 240's

[InfraRed407]

I was just curious as to how being on skylineowners and 6mt back up your claim to not being a punk ass teenager. Both are public forums (skyline owners is not anymore) where anyone can join...

[saleaf]

with all this being said I don't feel like its over priced. You tell me... Am i asking too much? heres a link.

http://zilvia.net/f/cars-sale/419957...one-price.html


Sorry for the minor thread jack. But i feel like its relevant. I would like to know what others think. I feel like for what it is the price is low or at least reasonable. I try not to be that guy that thinks my shit dont stink. my car aint a gem but it could be very easily. Is it fair to factor that into the pricing? With a solid paint job and minor work i see cars like mine sell upwards of 7k.. I agree that rust buckets go for the same or more. Most 240s are over priced in my opinion. But the problem is and always will be that people pay. You cant stop an idiot from buying what they want. In the same aspect i used to be able to find a good car for demo derby no problem 200-500 bucks all day. But demo derby is a little bit of a deal in this town once a year now and the lowest you can find a good demo derby car around here is $1000 and up. Its all supply and demand...


I think its a complex equation for 240s.. something like.... low ride height+zip ties+5 speed - common sense = $$$$$

[ryandh]

Originally Posted by InfraRed407

I was just curious as to how being on skylineowners and 6mt back up your claim to not being a punk ass teenager. Both are public forums (skyline owners is not anymore) where anyone can join...

Graduated Highschool in 2004, did 4 years in the corps (two combat deployments one to Iraq and one to Afghanistan) as a machinegunner with 3/4 Kilo Co. in 29 palms... Here's my old car...




Who the fuck are you?

[ryandh]

Originally Posted by saleaf

with all this being said I don't feel like its over priced. You tell me... Am i asking too much? heres a link.

http://zilvia.net/f/cars-sale/419957...one-price.html


Sorry for the minor thread jack. But i feel like its relevant. I would like to know what others think. I feel like for what it is the price is low or at least reasonable. I try not to be that guy that thinks my shit dont stink. my car aint a gem but it could be very easily. Is it fair to factor that into the pricing? With a solid paint job and minor work i see cars like mine sell upwards of 7k.. I agree that rust buckets go for the same or more. Most 240s are over priced in my opinion. But the problem is and always will be that people pay. You cant stop an idiot from buying what they want. In the same aspect i used to be able to find a good car for demo derby no problem 200-500 bucks all day. But demo derby is a little bit of a deal in this town once a year now and the lowest you can find a good demo derby car around here is $1000 and up. Its all supply and demand...


I think its a complex equation for 240s.. something like.... low ride height+zip ties+5 speed - common sense = $$$$$

No, you're right in the ballpark. Clean swap, not a rust bucket..

[saleaf]

Cool... I just wanted to know what you thought since you brought it up.. Thanks

[InfraRed407]

Originally Posted by ryandh

Graduated Highschool in 2004, did 4 years in the corps (two combat deployments one to Iraq and one to Afghanistan) as a machinegunner with 3/4 Kilo Co. in 29 palms... Here's my old car...




Who the fuck are you?

cool story, bro. want me to post pictures of my skyline too? no one said you weren't a punk ass teenager, but adding that you are on those two forums don't add a single ounce of validity to your point, so i was curious as to why you felt the need to mention them.

[ryandh]

Originally Posted by InfraRed407

cool story, bro. want me to post pictures of my skyline too? no one said you weren't a punk ass teenager, but adding that you are on those two forums don't add a single ounce of validity to your point, so i was curious as to why you felt the need to mention them.

You don't understand.

You probably think because of my low post count that I'm new to this shit, don't you. It validates that I'm not new to forums and how shit works.

[kalypso123]

honestly Ryan, this topic has been debated hotly dozens of times. I know you don't use zilvia a lot so its important not to get hot when people call you out. This site has more technical know-how then most online forums. Hence easy questions tend to irritate the community and illicit much sarcasms. The secret with two forties is to buy them out of state. Here in NY s13's with swaps run about 7 - 8k, but in florida they go for about 3800 - 5000.

[ryandh]

any mod here please close this thread.

[Wake]

I dont see what the big deall is. I have never paid more than $2k for a 240sx (s13) and I have bought.

'91 coupe 5sp - $2k in '02 (bought from 2nd owner)
'92 coupe 5sp - $1800 (with silvia front and bashed door)
'91 coupe 5sp - $500 (clean complete shell, no motor working 5sp)
'89 coupe auto - $700 (2nd owner, I replaced radiator/h2o pump/thermo/etc for $200)
'92 coupe auto - $800 (idled funny, got water on the ecu, bought new ecu for $40)
'93 hatch auto - $1800 (LE, power everything)
'89 hatch auto - $1300 (Runs fine)
'89 coupe auto - $1500 (2tone, runs fine)

my buddy has come across
'89 coupe auto - $300 (2tone, drove the piss out of it and got it impounded)
'91 coupe 5sp - $500 (no motor came with 5sp tranny, cage, coils, exhaust, and wheels)
'94 vert auto - $300 (sitting in some ladies driveway)

Depends on when and where you look and how long your willing to wait to find what you want. Having what you think is a fair amount of cash in hand also helps. Just start making offers. Most people will come down pretty quick.

You cant piss and moan about every overpriced part or car you come across, just laugh at it and move on. Eventually you will find what your looking for. No point in starting a thread and getting all huffy about it.

[jiggysnitz]

Originally Posted by ryandh

Ok, before you bash this thread and call me a 'noob', grow up. With that said, if you disagree, post your opinion. I'm on skylineowners, and 6mt and I'm not a broke punk ass teenager so lets just get that straight.

Now, with that being said, here is the reason I started this thread. I have noticed that in the cars for sale section, there seem to be a lot of over priced s13's and s14's. Seriously... Almost bone stock high mileage, or salvage title, no rims included type sales, $3k and $4k s13/s14's going
for 7-10k... Seems a little ridiculous. And the funny thing is, all the threads seem to include a disclaimer somewhat along these lines, " If you don't like the price then fuck you and leave". Seems a little weird that people actually pay 2-4 times the value of these cars, even when they're SOMEWHAT modified. I guess 200k+ miles on bone stock KA's and cheap ass SR's are worth 8-10K. I really hate to say this, but people need to get a grip on prices.

I came to this forum in search of a clean ass S14 with 10K in hand, and to my surpise, I can't find one...Weird, I have seen plenty of 03-'04 G35 coupes for 10k, with equal amount of miles, but 5-6 years newer. Kind of strange, and I hope I'm not the only one who thinks that.

For the ones out there who have nice examples, you are the exception. What I mean by that is great paint, builds and swaps done the right way, completely working and functional interiors, decent miles etc etc...
But for the other high mileage clunkers out there, get over yourselves and realize your $3500 car is not worth 6-9k.

Bash away if you wish to be immature about it, or leave an actual opinion, or maybe some clarification. Keep in mind, I'm not new to the whole 'jdm' scene, so if you feel the need to explain anything, do try the, 'Oh, it's cause they are rare'...they're not. Hakosuka's and kenmeri's are rare... USDM s13's and s14's and the parts for them that are cheap and easily accessable are not rare.

Unfortunately I don't think there is anything in your train of thought that is actually correc(IMO). 240s, or any car for that matter, are not worth whatever KBB says. A car is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it.

If you want a clean and cheap 240, great. Keep looking and one will show up eventually. However an individual opinion does not have a large enough effect on the market to change prices so how much you think the car is worth may be irrelevant to how much it will sell for.

For whatever reason 240s are currently highly desirable and people are willing to pay. So yes the s14 examples you gave are worth the asking price.

As proof I just traded my 95 s14 with basic sr ECT for an 03 s2000 that put down 500hp and came with 10k of engine build receipts.


CLIFF NOTES: Cars are worth what people will pay for them.

[ryandh]

Bro, where in my original post does 'KBB' appear? This thread was created to get opinions, not to bash it.

[Frankz91]

I bought my s13 for 800 bone stock missing posts here and there but with $9000 left I'll have a clean ass 240 so buy a clunker and have pride in building ur car little by little

[chwks13]

Take it easy, "bro".

Cars are worth what people will pay. It's been said probably 5 times, and will be said many more. You just gotta be smart with your money, and you can build a nice car for a decent amount of money.

Bro.

[ryandh]

I shouldnt have put the skyline money to the mortgage lol. My plan was to buy a somewhat decent s14 kouki, w/ a fairly stock KA or SR with decent miles for around 10k. From what I'm gathering from this 'hostile to new members who have an opinion' forum is that what I am asking is unheard of...

[J.bell]

This is an awesome thread BTW. I have to agree that Kids jack up the prices on thier molested cars way too much. IMO, its not only drift tax, some people think that sentimental value is material, and its not. Just because they LOVE thier POS, they hacked and spliced to make work, they think everyone else feels the same about said vehicle. Its funny because I just got my first USDM 240 w/ an sr red top in it, and this car was more than molested, it was gang raped by multiple owners with bad craftsmanship. The kid I got it from wanted 6k for this junker with WAY to many problems to list. I told him 1800, or Ill trade him a built (and severly bagged, which I didnt mention) VW GTI and 800 on his end. He pretty much told me to get fugged ccuz he figured hed get asking price. Three weeks later I got an e-mail back from him, he took the VW and I got my sr 240 and 800. He now has a Golf that barely runs. Kahrma is sweet, and patience is a virtue.

[ryandh]

Originally Posted by chwks13

Take it easy, "bro".

Cars are worth what people will pay. It's been said probably 5 times, and will be said many more. You just gotta be smart with your money, and you can build a nice car for a decent amount of money.

Bro.

put a uh instead of an 'o' and add more emphasis on the 'H' and say it...just rolls off the tounge lol

[KiLLeR2001]

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[ryandh]

Originally Posted by KiLLeR2001

ryandh

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wow, original killer2001.

You're a douchebag, along with all the other assholes on this forum. Real welcoming place here, hope you're proud of it.

[qwerth]

drift tax pretty much answers his question

[ryandh]

mods, close this thread please. I guess the feeling to bash a thread overcomes the maturity level to leave an actual opinion...

[KiLLeR2001]

Originally Posted by ryandh

wow, original killer2001.

You're a douchebag, along with all the other assholes on this forum. Real welcoming place here, hope you're proud of it.

I suggest you read these forums more before spouting off pointless threads such as this one. If you've been around Nissans long enough, you shouldn't even need to ask a question so dumb.

Considering you were in the military I'm sure you understand how ranking systems work. No one is going to pay you an ounce of respect until you've put in your time here and show some respect. Posting a picture of your alleged Skyline and asking someone "Who the fuck are you?" is pretty much the lamest thing you can do here, especially when you just signed up.

I'm sure you'll respond to this reply because you seem like the type that has to get the last word in. I won't be replying to you again, however.

Also, thank you for your service.

[joe645733]

It's just a fad and a "style".
A lot of 17-18 olders keep things like this alive.
There's maybe a small handful of cars I've run into with the build and condition where the price was reasonable. Were the 240sx's really that expensive back in the day? No.
If the title says "daily drifter", people on here are brainwashed to think it's iLL or whatever the fuck words they use in drift language. It's like pokemon...it was cool for a year then you grow out of it...except I'd still be down to play the games.

The whole style has really hurt the resale of my car. It's really sad to see a family car that was once brand new with a sticker price of 17k, go for 17k.
While my low mileage, clean, stock paint 300zxtt that is fully loaded with a sticker price of near 40k gets worse resale value.

[eddieflo]

Originally Posted by ryandh

wow, original killer2001.

You're a douchebag, along with all the other assholes on this forum. Real welcoming place here, hope you're proud of it.

1. You DO have an attitude...

2. You're whining about something that nobody can or will change

3. You'll complain until it comes time to sell that kouki you want to build, after all the money and time you spent on it.

4. If you have to tell people that you're not a punk ass kid, then you probably are one...

[ryandh]

*facepalm* this forum is ridiculous. I'm out...

[Wake]

shortest stay on zilvia EVAR!

[joe645733]

Originally Posted by KiLLeR2001

I suggest you read these forums more before spouting off pointless threads such as this one. If you've been around Nissans long enough, you shouldn't even need to ask a question so dumb.

Considering you were in the military I'm sure you understand how ranking systems work. No one is going to pay you an ounce of respect until you've put in your time here and show some respect. Posting a picture of your alleged Skyline and asking someone "Who the fuck are you?" is pretty much the lamest thing you can do here, especially when you just signed up.

I'm sure you'll respond to this reply because you seem like the type that has to get the last word in. I won't be replying to you again, however.

Also, thank you for your service.

That's pretty sad you take people's post seriously only by their rank lol.

[canasion35]

i agree with OP. but also don't like that attitude he's got.

[eddieflo]

[Wake]

Originally Posted by joe645733

That's pretty sad you take people's post seriously only by their rank lol.

Its pretty sad that thats all you got outta that.