is it just me??? Overpriced 240's

[revat619]

I've been in the "game" for quite a while now and i must say that recently, the prices i see people selling cars for on here ARE pretty fucking stupid. BUT i dont care. I'm over these cars. Mine sits in the garage most of the time anyway.

fwiw, an engine swap,"cool" wheels, trendy coilovers, etc doesn't automatically mean a car is worth 5 figures. It's about QUALITY, but there are far too many douchecanoes nowadays who think otherwise....

and to that i say, whatthefuckever.

[illvialuver]

By attitude people mean are referring to your opening statement of what forums you are on and dropping the name skyline like it is supposed to mean something. All that means to me, is that you have too much more or someone has giving you too much money and you think that your money or the car you drive makes you better than someone else.


As for your original question. It is all supply and demand. There are far less s14s than there are g35s.
And to top it off, it seems to make sense that more s14s and s13s that were made have been wrecked or destroyed in accidents than g35s.

Plus, in the states an s14 is the newest model you can buy. Unlike the g37 which diminished the value of the g35, there has yet to be a new s chassis.

Also, if everyone knows an s13 is worth no more than 1500. But clean, like really clean one owner ones will go for 5k bone stock all day. If one kid pays 7 k for a 1500$ car, then that cause the average value of that car to go up.

So dont come in here and ask why shit costs how much it does. It just seems kind of ironic, that some skyline forum guy comes into the s chassis game with 10 and is bitching about the quality of cars he can or cant afford with that amount of money.

It is what it is, so you should just learn to swallow the pill and deal with it. the first response basically summed up what I just explained to you in a couple words.

[wonpoo]

GO TALK TO THIS GUY! HE IS SELLING FOR CHEAP CHEAP BRO!

http://zilvia.net/f/chat/410791-what...-240sx-se.html

[illvialuver]

oh how funny, the guy/bro " without an attitude, who started this thread, was bitching about not find a kouki for under 10k, and now someone posted one for his dumb as for half of the price he was wiling to pay, but it is too late he supposedly left the forum. oh the irony.

[joe645733]

Originally Posted by revat619

I've been in the "game" for quite a while now and i must say that recently, the prices i see people selling cars for on here ARE pretty fucking stupid. BUT i dont care. I'm over these cars. Mine sits in the garage most of the time anyway.

fwiw, an engine swap,"cool" wheels, trendy coilovers, etc doesn't automatically mean a car is worth 5 figures. It's about QUALITY, but there are far too many douchecanoes nowadays who think otherwise....

and to that i say, whatthefuckever.

ThaAaank you

[chriskilla2]

im guessing most of us have 240sx y are we bitching about the price of our cars increasing?? i think of it as a way that less scrubs and ricers get it.. 240sx should NEVER be honda cheap.....

[Danial]

Originally Posted by chriskilla2

im guessing most of us have 240sx y are we bitching about the price of our cars increasing?? i think of it as a way that less scrubs and ricers get it.. 240sx should NEVER be honda cheap.....

Exactly, idk why this hasn't been mentioned...

also,
S13s will soon all be able to be historic, idk how that works in other places besides md, but i can't wait for mine to hit the 20 year mark and never have to worry about getting emissions, inspection, tickets from douche cops because I have coilovers (that aren't even ridiculously low)

fixing up 20yr old car = gain VALUE

And there's usually a reason people say "this price or gtfo" is that they don't want to sell it for less than that and don't want to deal with joe the con man trying to trade them a blown car and 1000 bucks

If i see people selling their cars for 6k i'm sure as hell gonna start my price there, I would be stupid not to

[xislander]

Anyone here play league of legends? Jw. Bye.

[Walperstyle]

Originally Posted by chriskilla2

im guessing most of us have 240sx y are we bitching about the price of our cars increasing?? i think of it as a way that less scrubs and ricers get it.. 240sx should NEVER be honda cheap.....

Why? its not like its an Aston Martin...

[Darren]

Cars will always decrease in value, unless they are something super collectable... but then people aren't buying the car so much as the image.

240s are increasing in price right now, but that's just supply and demand, nothing to do with the cars themselves... they'll come back down

Just gotta look hard and there's some good deals out there, problem for most people is those are becoming harder to find...

[raz0rbladez909]

Originally Posted by chriskilla2

im guessing most of us have 240sx y are we bitching about the price of our cars increasing?? i think of it as a way that less scrubs and ricers get it.. 240sx should NEVER be honda cheap.....

That is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Define "Honda cheap"; Because guess what? There are plenty of better built Honda's out there than alot of the POS's that have been popping up on here lately. You act like there should be an "entry fee" to become part of the cool guy club that you see the 240sx community to be. It's a car, you aren't special because you own a 240sx and are part of the mad tyte dorifto jdm scene; and who the fuck uses the term "scrubs" anymore.

Originally Posted by Danial

Exactly, idk why this hasn't been mentioned...

also,
S13s will soon all be able to be historic, idk how that works in other places besides md, but i can't wait for mine to hit the 20 year mark and never have to worry about getting emissions, inspection, tickets from douche cops because I have coilovers (that aren't even ridiculously low)

fixing up 20yr old car = gain VALUE

And there's usually a reason people say "this price or gtfo" is that they don't want to sell it for less than that and don't want to deal with joe the con man trying to trade them a blown car and 1000 bucks

If i see people selling their cars for 6k i'm sure as hell gonna start my price there, I would be stupid not to

A 240sx is not going to gain value as it ages, it is not a collectors car, and it is not special. I don't know how you two noobs can justify the stupidity of the statements you just made. The reason people have the "this price or GTFO" is because A. They actually have a nice car with nice parts on it which is justifiable or B. They are a fanboy who thinks their rattle canned POS is going to triple in value because it has an SR.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Its still funny how people are complaining about S-chassis prices now. It was worst 3 yrs ago, before the economy tanked. There were folks selling clean, stock S14 chassis for $10k and actually had people fighting over it.

But really, think of it this way. There isnt a whole lot of theses cars like it used to be. Between bastards writing these cars off as throw away chassis and more folks jumping into the bandwagon, there's simply not enough cars to go around. Somebody posted up a while ago about how much S-chassis are registered/running around the country right now. Theres not alot of them left...

Only reason I'm in another S14 now is cuz I don't want a damn car payment. I'd give myself a couple years to get situated again and I'd probably jump into a Z33 and get away from the 240sx crowd. I've been doing this shit for way too long, the crowd sucks now, these cars got too much negative following now...

[ManoNegra]

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

Only reason I'm in another S14 now is cuz I don't want a damn car payment. I'd give myself a couple years to get situated again and I'd probably jump into a Z33 and get away from the 240sx crowd. I've been doing this shit for way too long, the crowd sucks now, these cars got too much negative following now...

that's probably because the cheap asses that used to bicker about Honda prices
are now doing it here

years ago I wanted a Civic hatch to daily but didn't like the condition and prices they were going for
then I considered a 240z or 510 for a bit, same deal
I didn't make a thread crying about the inflated market of these cars
I simply didn't buy any of them and went elsewhere

shit is only worth what you're willing to pay for it
it may not be worth it to to you
but it is to enough people to dictate what the market is

[n8RPS13]

I dont let "the crowd" dictate what I own. I plain and simple love the
S chassis and dont really care about the scene anymore.

[nissanfreak317]

Originally Posted by revat619

I've been in the "game" for quite a while now and i must say that recently, the prices i see people selling cars for on here ARE pretty fucking stupid. BUT i dont care. I'm over these cars. Mine sits in the garage most of the time anyway.

fwiw, an engine swap,"cool" wheels, trendy coilovers, etc doesn't automatically mean a car is worth 5 figures. It's about QUALITY, but there are far too many douchecanoes nowadays who think otherwise....

and to that i say, whatthefuckever.

Douchecanoes

Douchecanoes

Douchecanoes

[badbob2121]

Originally Posted by ManoNegra

shit is only worth what you're willing to pay for it
it may not be worth it to to you
but it is to enough people to dictate what the market is

Originally Posted by n8RPS13

I dont let "the crowd" dictate what I own. I plain and simple love the
S chassis and dont really care about the scene anymore.

I think this pretty much sums it up

[06_footy]

Originally Posted by cc4usmc

With your attitude, I can definitely see this thread going places.

This.

[EnemyS15]

THIS THREAD IS EPIC LAWLZ!!! PLS DONT CLOSE THIS!!!!

my 2c's ........you got 2 types of sellers

1 - the one who knows that he/she will not get what was put in, in terms of $$ and labor, but can find a good median in terms of what has been invested.

2 - the one who puts 3k into a car and thinks because it's better than stock, he/she can get double or more than what it is worth.

annnnnnnnnnnnd you have 2 types of buyers

1 - who knows the true value of a car and will purchase something of value (looks at craftmanship, quality, etc etc

2 - the idiot who buys over priced junk because ZOMG IT HAS AN SR IN IT and I can make my car go PSSSSHHH at every shift!


Since we can only justify OUR own possessions, just ignore the ones that are overpriced and continue to hunt for those true gems!


/end

[tricky_ab]

This thread...I don't even...

[Highway Riding]

I have a 1996 un molested SR Zenki for sale... I want 20 Fuggin K.. lol I also have an original Michael Jackson thriller album still in it's plastic.. I'll take $5000 for that! See how that works!

[06_footy]

I like turtles.

[biggie]

Wow this thing is still going. I have paid $14k for an S13, but it was a bit of a different time. As many have said, things are worth what people will pay. Used cars overall (especially certain types) have had a higher value lately.

[CrimsonRockett]

This is not the first (or last) time a thread like this pops up.

As always, something is only worth what a buyer is willing to pay for it. Having been in the S-chassis market for the past few years, you really get an idea as to what's worth what.

Anyone going based on KBB is an idiot. Don't get me wrong, it can definitely be applied to newer cars, but when it comes to older cars, you simply have to go with market value. If KBB states a low mileage, 5-speed LE '98 Kouki with all of the dealer options is worth $3,500, would you sell it at $3500? As long as everything checks out okay, that car would be worth $7500-8000.

One thing people have to realize is modifying a car does not add an insane amount of value to your car unless you're doing some over-the-top-professional-quality shit. An S13 with 5-lug, Z-brakes, coilovers, and wheels is not worth $10k (perfect example currently in the Cars for sale section). Anybody with enough car knowledge could easily put one together for much less with better parts.

A clean/stock S-chassis at times is worth more than its modified counterpart.

Originally Posted by EnemyS15

my 2c's ........you got 2 types of sellers

1 - the one who knows that he/she will not get what was put in, in terms of $$ and labor, but can find a good median in terms of what has been invested.

2 - the one who puts 3k into a car and thinks because it's better than stock, he/she can get double or more than what it is worth.

annnnnnnnnnnnd you have 2 types of buyers

1 - who knows the true value of a car and will purchase something of value (looks at craftmanship, quality, etc etc

2 - the idiot who buys over priced junk because ZOMG IT HAS AN SR IN IT and I can make my car go PSSSSHHH at every shift!

Since we can only justify OUR own possessions, just ignore the ones that are overpriced and continue to hunt for those true gems!

/end

Pretty much spot on.